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ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 12:16:18 PM)
I think Manning would have done just as well if he was a Patriot. I could maybe listen to somebody that says Rodgers would also. Nobody else.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 12:20:10 PM)
You'd really have to have a love for the game and no life besides it if you were one of the greats who managed their money well and still wanted to coach. This ain't no 9-5 job.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 12:50:22 PM)
Randy moss is a lot sharper than many give him credit for..

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 1:13:44 PM)
Happy new special teams coach day [:D]

Don T in CO -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 2:04:21 PM)
@alexmarvez Source tells me @vikings have hired @MiamiDolphins asst special teams coach Marwan Maalouf as their new ST coach @DanielHouseNFL He (Maalouf) got his start in special teams with Jon Harbaugh in Baltimore. Maalouf also recently assisted Miami STs coach Darren Rizzi, one of the league's top coordinators. He's been influenced by some quality coaches Maalouf's Bio https://www.miamidolphins.com/team/coaches-roster/marwan-maalouf Working with Associate Head Coach/Special Teams Coordinator Darren Rizzi, Maalouf has helped the Dolphins rank in the top half of Rick Gosselin’s annual Dallas Morning News Special Teams rankings each season he has been in Miami. In 2017, the Dolphins were tied for third in the NFL with three blocked kicks – two field goals and one punt. Kicker Cody Parkey tied the team record for highest field goal percentage, converting 21-of-23 opportunities (91.3 pct.) and earned AFC Player of the Week honors after he made the longest game-winning kick (54 yards) in team history in the season opener at the L.A. Chargers (9/17). Parkey also successfully converted four onside kicks, the most in NFL history since records date back to 1997. The kickoff coverage unit was the best in the NFL, with opponents’ average starting field position following a kickoff at the 23-yard line. Gosselin ranked the Dolphins special teams units No. 11 in the NFL while Pro Football Focus graded the units No. 6. Michael Thomas earned PFF’s Special Teamer of the Year award and led the team with 11 special teams tackles. Gosselin ranked the Dolphins special teams unit No. 7 in the NFL in 2016. The high ranking was due in part because Miami led the league in opponent gross punting as opposing punters tried to keep it away from Jakeem Grant. Grant and Kenyan Drake became the first Dolphins rookie tandem to return a punt and a kickoff for a touchdown in the same season since 1981. It was just the fourth time in the NFL since the merger in 1970 that different rookies on the same team took back a punt and a kickoff for touchdowns in the same year. Miami also ranked in the top 10 in opponents’ starting field position after a kickoff (10th/24.4 yard line), own starting field position after a kickoff (8th/25.3 yard line), and opponents’ net punting average (3rd/37.4 net yards per punt). The Dolphins also tied for the NFL lead with four blocked kicks. Three of those were credited to the field goal block unit, which ranked No. 5 in the NFL in field goal percentage against. Kicker Andrew Franks made the first two game-winning kicks of his NFL career and drilled an even more impressive kick, booting a 55-yard field goal at Buffalo (12/24) to send the game into overtime as the field goal unit rushed onto the field with time running out. In 2015, Maalouf helped the Dolphins rank No. 15 despite having a rookie punter and kicker. Wide receiver and punt returner Jarvis Landry opened the season with a 69-yard punt return for a touchdown in the Week 1 win at Washington, earning himself AFC Special Teams Player of the Week honors. Rookie punter Matt Darr averaged 47.6 yards per punt, the fourth-best single-season mark in team history and finished third in the NFL in the statistic. Rookie kicker Andrew Franks successfully converted 13 of his 16 field goal attempts and the field goal block unit ranked No. 1 in the NFL in field goal percentage against. Maalouf assisted with a unit that set a franchise record with three blocked punts in a season in 2014. They also added two blocked field goals, giving Miami five blocked kicks on the year, the most since the team blocked seven in 1977. Explosive plays weren’t limited to the block units as Landry, a rookie, won AFC Special Teams Player of the Month for October when he returned five kickoffs for 178 yards (35.6), with a long of 54 yards. The 35.6 average kickoff return was the second-highest in the NFL in October and was the highest October average in franchise history. Landry finished the season with a 28.1 kick return average, the fourth-highest in the NFL and tops among rookies. In 2013, Maalouf assisted with a unit that was rated among the top eight in the NFL based on the annual Dallas Morning News Special Teams rankings. The 2013 special teams units were highlighted by the play of Brandon Fields, who earned his first Pro Bowl berth. Fields ranked No. 2 in the NFL in gross punt average (48.8 yards per punt), No. 2 in net average (42.4, which is the eight best in NFL history), tied for No. 3 with 33 punts inside the 20-yard line and also recorded the third-longest punt (74 yards) during the season. Fields is one of only two Dolphins punters to be selected to the Pro Bowl, joining Reggie Roby (1984, 1989). Maalouf joined the Dolphins after spending the 2012 season as special teams coordinator with the Indianapolis Colts. Under his direction, the Colts special teams significantly improved in 2012, aided in part by returning a punt and a kickoff for a touchdown in the same season for the just the sixth time in franchise history and first since 2001. The kick return unit recorded its first touchdown since 2009. The Colts also posted an 11.1-yard average per punt return which ranked as the fourth-highest punt return average in franchise history. Individually, the Colts special teams saw returner Deji Karim return a kickoff 101 yards for a touchdown in the final week of the regular season against the Houston Texans. Karim’s return was the longest return in franchise history in 39 years. In 2012, Pat McAfee was among the elite kickoff specialists and punters in the NFL, finishing third in the AFC and fifth in the NFL in punting average with a 47.9 per punt average. McAfee, who also handled the kickoff duties for Indianapolis, finished fourth in the AFC and eighth in the NFL with 43 touchback kicks. McAfee made his mark in the Colts history books as his 2012 season set franchise single- season records for kickoff touchbacks (43), punting average (47.9), net punting average (40.3), 50.0-yard average games (five) and tied the franchise record for punts inside the 20 (26). Rounding out Maalouf’s unit in 2012 was kicker Adam Vinatieri. His 53-yard game-winning field goal against the Minnesota Vikings was the longest game-winning field goal Vinatieri has made in his career in the last minute of the fourth quarter or in overtime. Also in 2012, Vinatieri surpassed 100 points scored for the season for the 15th time in his career. Prior to joining the Colts, Maalouf spent four seasons (2008-11) as the assistant special teams coach for the Baltimore Ravens. In 2010, Maalouf helped rookie kickoff returner David Reed lead the NFL in kickoff return average (29.2) and coached a unit which finished third in the league in opponent average starting position (27.2-yard line). Kicker Billy Cundiff earned his first Pro Bowl invitation after tying an NFL mark with 40 touchbacks (since kickoffs moved back to the 30-yard line). In 2009, Baltimore ranked No. 2 in the NFL in both kickoff return average (26.3) and opponents’ average starting field position (26.9). Maalouf joined the Ravens in 2008 and that season coached punter Sam Koch, who had the NFL’s fifth-best net punting average (39.9). Koch also led the league with 18 punts inside the 10-yard line and was second in the league with 34 kicks inside the 20-yard line. Maalouf also helped guide special teams ace Brendon Ayanbadejo to his third Pro Bowl selection.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 2:23:47 PM)
Works for me.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 2:34:15 PM)
I expect a Browns' kicker to be struggling to make any game winning kicks midseason onward, and it looks like there is a good chance the Viking's special teams do well, with the kicker probably making game winners. If there is continued struggles with game winners, then it's Zimmer.

Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 2:48:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ronhextall I think Manning would have done just as well if he was a Patriot. I could maybe listen to somebody that says Rodgers would also. Nobody else. You can put Manning on any other team and I believe he has the same success if not more.

Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 2:50:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: SteveR Pretty good games yesterday. Those four teams are quite a ways ahead of us. I'm okay with the Patriots win. One would think Mahomes is going to be threatening for a Super Bowl for a long time. Wow, he is good, and once he gets more situational experience, he will probably be a tough out. He took a couple of sacks that cost the Chiefs pretty badly. Meanwhile, Brady and Bellichek continue to be borderline supernatural. I actually have fun watching the Patriots continue to defy time. I learned my lesson with Michael Jordan. I always rooted against him because I was sick of him winning. In retrospect, I realize I got to watch greatness, so it is with the Patriots. Might as well say I got to see the best-ever QB and coach do their thing until they are, perhaps, dethroned sometime in the distant future by someone else. Even if they don't win the SB, getting there three times in a row at this stage is crazy. Brady was clutch big-time on their last drive in regulation. Third down after third down over the middle. Seems like Vikings never do that. They want to be so balanced they don't bother to keep repeating something that works...or that could be my imagination. Regardless, we aren't even in the same solar system as the four teams yesterday in what it takes to get to the big one. The pass interference no call in the Saints/Rams game was...something. It took the game away from the Saints pretty much. I can't complain too much because it is the Saints, but I don't think that is good for the game when something like that can make such a huge difference. Oh well...the world is still turning. Good post. The rest of the posters applauding that non PI call, I welcome the day it happens to the Vikings because that will be pay back. Anyone who appreciates the game should be totally pissed off that an officiating crew can make that bad of a judgment that impacts the final score of the game as well as the winner. In situations like that, the league needs to step in and make the call right. There should be a situation where the coach of each team can challenge one called or non-called penalty per game for review. It can either be a specific penalty review in addition to the on-field challenges or simply become incorporated into the challenge rule. It was before my time but the Drew Pearson hail mary sure looked like a push off.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:27:29 PM)
I don't like the fact that the officials messed up that badly in the Saints game. However lets not pretend they weren't gifted a super bowl in 2009.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:33:54 PM)
Too bad for them! Love it in fact!

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:36:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Saints screwed up with the clock at 1:55, and let the Rams drive enough to kick a FG. Too bad for them! Love it in fact. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged for a team that was pretty much handed a Super Bowl appearance by officials. But that's just me. If they make some rule change that's sensible I wouldn't mind that either.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:40:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Saints screwed up with the clock at 1:55, and let the Rams drive enough to kick a FG. Too bad for them! Love it in fact. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged for a team that was pretty much handed a Super Bowl appearance by officials. But that's just me. If they make some rule change that's sensible I wouldn't mind that either. I edited the post since the penalty was part of the sequence of downs.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:43:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Saints screwed up with the clock at 1:55, and let the Rams drive enough to kick a FG. Too bad for them! Love it in fact. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged for a team that was pretty much handed a Super Bowl appearance by officials. But that's just me. If they make some rule change that's sensible I wouldn't mind that either. Saints failed to convert TDs earlier in the game. They allows the Rams to come back in the first place. After the botched non-call they failed to stop the Rams from getting into FG position to tie the game. Then in OT Brees threw a pick and they let the Rams drive into FG range again for the winning FG. Sure they can bitch about the lack of a flag (and rightly so) but in the end if the Saints played better they wouldn't have been in the position where they needed the flag to save their game. further if they were truly any good they would have stopped the Rams from driving to tie, wouldn't have thrown a pick in OT and wouldn't have lost the game.. Boo the eff hoo.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:45:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: SteveR Pretty good games yesterday. Those four teams are quite a ways ahead of us. I'm okay with the Patriots win. One would think Mahomes is going to be threatening for a Super Bowl for a long time. Wow, he is good, and once he gets more situational experience, he will probably be a tough out. He took a couple of sacks that cost the Chiefs pretty badly. Meanwhile, Brady and Bellichek continue to be borderline supernatural. I actually have fun watching the Patriots continue to defy time. I learned my lesson with Michael Jordan. I always rooted against him because I was sick of him winning. In retrospect, I realize I got to watch greatness, so it is with the Patriots. Might as well say I got to see the best-ever QB and coach do their thing until they are, perhaps, dethroned sometime in the distant future by someone else. Even if they don't win the SB, getting there three times in a row at this stage is crazy. Brady was clutch big-time on their last drive in regulation. Third down after third down over the middle. Seems like Vikings never do that. They want to be so balanced they don't bother to keep repeating something that works...or that could be my imagination. Regardless, we aren't even in the same solar system as the four teams yesterday in what it takes to get to the big one. The pass interference no call in the Saints/Rams game was...something. It took the game away from the Saints pretty much. I can't complain too much because it is the Saints, but I don't think that is good for the game when something like that can make such a huge difference. Oh well...the world is still turning. Good post. The rest of the posters applauding that non PI call, I welcome the day it happens to the Vikings because that will be pay back. Anyone who appreciates the game should be totally pissed off that an officiating crew can make that bad of a judgment that impacts the final score of the game as well as the winner. In situations like that, the league needs to step in and make the call right. There should be a situation where the coach of each team can challenge one called or non-called penalty per game for review. It can either be a specific penalty review in addition to the on-field challenges or simply become incorporated into the challenge rule. You welcome the team getting screwed if it gives you more amunition. Troll.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:52:21 PM)
Fun Fact: In 789 A.D. the Vikings marauded what was the largest collection of parrots in the world. If that brood had been allowed to mature, today's total parrot population would be 47 times larger thereby allowing parrot-killers to expend just 2.1% of their current effort to locate a target parrot for death.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:53:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Saints screwed up with the clock at 1:55, and let the Rams drive enough to kick a FG. Too bad for them! Love it in fact. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged for a team that was pretty much handed a Super Bowl appearance by officials. But that's just me. If they make some rule change that's sensible I wouldn't mind that either. Saints failed to convert TDs earlier in the game. They allows the Rams to come back in the first place. After the botched non-call they failed to stop the Rams from getting into FG position to tie the game. Then in OT Brees threw a pick and they let the Rams drive into FG range again for the winning FG. Sure they can bitch about the lack of a flag (and rightly so) but in the end if the Saints played better they wouldn't have been in the position where they needed the flag to save their game. further if they were truly any good they would have stopped the Rams from driving to tie, wouldn't have thrown a pick in OT and wouldn't have lost the game.. Boo the eff hoo. Agreed! Again I sat and watched in 2009 when the saints got handed a super bowl appearance. Funny how theres such outrage when it goes against them.

ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 3:55:14 PM)
I tend to think good teams don't leave themselves in a position to get hosed over by the refs. I know that isn't possible but I throw it out there. The non call was awful, and the league would be better if it didn't happen. That being said, if I could pick a team for it to happen to the Saints would be in my top 3. I thought the non head slap to Brady was about as bad, how to you call something you obviously didn't see. Since it's Brady they just assume he got hit I guess. Probably need each coach to be able to challenge one PI call a half. With spot fouls its almost necessary. I would like a three person panel in NY to decide. One Official, a former DB, and a former WR. They can train via video and get their mojo working.

CPAMAN -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 4:59:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: SteveR Pretty good games yesterday. Those four teams are quite a ways ahead of us. I'm okay with the Patriots win. One would think Mahomes is going to be threatening for a Super Bowl for a long time. Wow, he is good, and once he gets more situational experience, he will probably be a tough out. He took a couple of sacks that cost the Chiefs pretty badly. Meanwhile, Brady and Bellichek continue to be borderline supernatural. I actually have fun watching the Patriots continue to defy time. I learned my lesson with Michael Jordan. I always rooted against him because I was sick of him winning. In retrospect, I realize I got to watch greatness, so it is with the Patriots. Might as well say I got to see the best-ever QB and coach do their thing until they are, perhaps, dethroned sometime in the distant future by someone else. Even if they don't win the SB, getting there three times in a row at this stage is crazy. Brady was clutch big-time on their last drive in regulation. Third down after third down over the middle. Seems like Vikings never do that. They want to be so balanced they don't bother to keep repeating something that works...or that could be my imagination. Regardless, we aren't even in the same solar system as the four teams yesterday in what it takes to get to the big one. The pass interference no call in the Saints/Rams game was...something. It took the game away from the Saints pretty much. I can't complain too much because it is the Saints, but I don't think that is good for the game when something like that can make such a huge difference. Oh well...the world is still turning. Good post. The rest of the posters applauding that non PI call, I welcome the day it happens to the Vikings because that will be pay back. Anyone who appreciates the game should be totally pissed off that an officiating crew can make that bad of a judgment that impacts the final score of the game as well as the winner. In situations like that, the league needs to step in and make the call right. There should be a situation where the coach of each team can challenge one called or non-called penalty per game for review. It can either be a specific penalty review in addition to the on-field challenges or simply become incorporated into the challenge rule. You welcome the team getting screwed if it gives you more amunition. Troll. Not at all moron. I am making a statement to the rules of the game and the outcome of fair play. It is a travesty that the league with all its technology capabilities cannot thing forward enough to eliminate these type of outcomes being decided by officials. And you sir can suck on an egg. Asshole.

CPAMAN -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 5:02:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Saints screwed up with the clock at 1:55, and let the Rams drive enough to kick a FG. Too bad for them! Love it in fact. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged for a team that was pretty much handed a Super Bowl appearance by officials. But that's just me. If they make some rule change that's sensible I wouldn't mind that either. Saints failed to convert TDs earlier in the game. They allows the Rams to come back in the first place. After the botched non-call they failed to stop the Rams from getting into FG position to tie the game. Then in OT Brees threw a pick and they let the Rams drive into FG range again for the winning FG. Sure they can bitch about the lack of a flag (and rightly so) but in the end if the Saints played better they wouldn't have been in the position where they needed the flag to save their game. further if they were truly any good they would have stopped the Rams from driving to tie, wouldn't have thrown a pick in OT and wouldn't have lost the game.. Boo the eff hoo. Agreed! Again I sat and watched in 2009 when the saints got handed a super bowl appearance. Funny how theres such outrage when it goes against them. Personally, I don't like it when any team loses because of poor officiating. Shame on the league for not having a penalty challenge when many other things can be challenged. Penalties called or not called are as influential to game outcomes as 75 yard runs from scrimmage.

CPAMAN -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 5:06:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ronhextall I tend to think good teams don't leave themselves in a position to get hosed over by the refs. I know that isn't possible but I throw it out there. The non call was awful, and the league would be better if it didn't happen. That being said, if I could pick a team for it to happen to the Saints would be in my top 3. I thought the non head slap to Brady was about as bad, how to you call something you obviously didn't see. Since it's Brady they just assume he got hit I guess. Probably need each coach to be able to challenge one PI call a half. With spot fouls its almost necessary. I would like a three person panel in NY to decide. One Official, a former DB, and a former WR. They can train via video and get their mojo working. This is an easy solution that should have been implemented five or six years ago along with all the other rule changes, ie, "what is or isn't a catch", "making a football move", "helmet to helmet contact", "QB hits below the knee and to the helmet area", "what plays or situations can and cannot be challenged", etc.

Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 5:40:20 PM)
The Saints blew it. They were inferior team for most of that game. After Goff and Co shook off the early jitters they looked to be in control. The Rams should have been up 10-9 at half if they hadn't foolishly jumped offside on 4th & 1 when it was clear the Saints were simply trying to draw them. Not to mention Gurley causing a possible 10 pt swing with his 2 drops. Despite the non PI call, the refs were favoring the Saints all game, there were 4 missed facemask penalties on them.

Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 5:42:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Saints screwed up with the clock at 1:55, and let the Rams drive enough to kick a FG. Too bad for them! Love it in fact. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged for a team that was pretty much handed a Super Bowl appearance by officials. But that's just me. If they make some rule change that's sensible I wouldn't mind that either. Saints failed to convert TDs earlier in the game. They allows the Rams to come back in the first place. After the botched non-call they failed to stop the Rams from getting into FG position to tie the game. Then in OT Brees threw a pick and they let the Rams drive into FG range again for the winning FG. Sure they can bitch about the lack of a flag (and rightly so) but in the end if the Saints played better they wouldn't have been in the position where they needed the flag to save their game. further if they were truly any good they would have stopped the Rams from driving to tie, wouldn't have thrown a pick in OT and wouldn't have lost the game.. Boo the eff hoo. Agreed! Again I sat and watched in 2009 when the saints got handed a super bowl appearance. Funny how theres such outrage when it goes against them. The reffing was terrible in 2009 especially when the refs held the Saints by the hand and walked them all the way down the field in OT. Still no one to blame after turning the ball over 5x however.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 5:44:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Fun Fact: In 789 A.D. the Vikings marauded what was the largest collection of parrots in the world. If that brood had been allowed to mature, today's total parrot population would be 47 times larger thereby allowing parrot-killers to expend just 2.1% of their current effort to locate a target parrot for death. What about parakeets?

stfrank -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/21/2019 5:51:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Fun Fact: In 789 A.D. the Vikings marauded what was the largest collection of parrots in the world. If that brood had been allowed to mature, today's total parrot population would be 47 times larger thereby allowing parrot-killers to expend just 2.1% of their current effort to locate a target parrot for death. What about parakeets? [&:]

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