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Talk seems to be that Hughes is close. If he's put on PUP he will be ineligible for 8 weeks.

If he isn't put on the PUP he still might not be ready to play until week 3 or 4 (just speculating).

Rhodes
Waynes
Mac
Hughes
Boyd

Keep Bene if Hughes is placed on PUP

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From what I've heard Jones has played well. There will be surprises, though, no doubt. Good players will have to cut.

I didn't get any response for my take on the final cuts with regard to the cornerbacks. Any comments before I move on to the next position group? Let's make it the linebackers.

I agree with the CBs: Waynes, Rhodes, Mac, Hughes. I probably keep Boyd or Bernicke at this point. If Hughes needs to start on PUP, then you have to keep both. Hill will be on suspension, he can be evaluated when he comes back.

With Kearse looking so good at a Big Slot and safety, I think you can get away with only 5 CBs at the start of the season (again depending on Hughes and counting Kearse as S).

Because Hughes will not be ready for game one, keeping five means only having four. I think the team has to keep six including Hughes. But I like your take on the idea of counting Kearse as a nickel safety. I didn't think of that.

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https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-vikings-defeat-seahawks-in-preseason-game-no-2/

Zimmer missed a fairly clear chance to challenge a defensive pass interference call potentially committed against Bisi Johnson that could’ve given the ball to the Vikings near the goal line. Instead, Mannion threw his Pick 6 on the very next play. Zimmer seemed exasperated by the new rule after the game. “It’s hard to know when they’re going to call it, when they’re not going to call it,” he said.

Getting Zim to improve his clock mgmt and when/when not to throw the challenge flag would be like Cousins suddenly developing pocket presence.

Neither is going to happen. they are what they are.

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Here is a new 53 man roster prediction.

https://vikingsspin.wordpress.com/2019/08/20/vikings-spins-53-man-roster-prediction-1-0/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Jones playing well makes Dozier expendable.

Only 3 RB but 2 FBs?

Only read his Offense list so far.

EDIT

3- DT- A. Watts

4- OT O. Udoh

Neither make it to the Practice Squad.

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https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-vikings-defeat-seahawks-in-preseason-game-no-2/

Zimmer missed a fairly clear chance to challenge a defensive pass interference call potentially committed against Bisi Johnson that could’ve given the ball to the Vikings near the goal line. Instead, Mannion threw his Pick 6 on the very next play. Zimmer seemed exasperated by the new rule after the game. “It’s hard to know when they’re going to call it, when they’re not going to call it,” he said.

Getting Zim to improve his clock mgmt and when/when not to throw the challenge flag would be like Cousins suddenly developing pocket presence.

Neither is going to happen. they are what they are.

Cousins has excellent pocket presence IMO.

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From what I've heard Jones has played well. There will be surprises, though, no doubt. Good players will have to cut.

I didn't get any response for my take on the final cuts with regard to the cornerbacks. Any comments before I move on to the next position group? Let's make it the linebackers.

I agree with the CBs: Waynes, Rhodes, Mac, Hughes. I probably keep Boyd or Bernicke at this point. If Hughes needs to start on PUP, then you have to keep both. Hill will be on suspension, he can be evaluated when he comes back.

With Kearse looking so good at a Big Slot and safety, I think you can get away with only 5 CBs at the start of the season (again depending on Hughes and counting Kearse as S).

Because Hughes will not be ready for game one, keeping five means only having four. I think the team has to keep six including Hughes. But I like your take on the idea of counting Kearse as a nickel safety. I didn't think of that.

Bruce where are you getting that Hughes will absolutely without question not be ready for game one from? Paul Allen or Vikings personnel? Or do you consider PA to be Vikings personnel? Is he?

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https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-vikings-defeat-seahawks-in-preseason-game-no-2/

Zimmer missed a fairly clear chance to challenge a defensive pass interference call potentially committed against Bisi Johnson that could’ve given the ball to the Vikings near the goal line. Instead, Mannion threw his Pick 6 on the very next play. Zimmer seemed exasperated by the new rule after the game. “It’s hard to know when they’re going to call it, when they’re not going to call it,” he said.

Getting Zim to improve his clock mgmt and when/when not to throw the challenge flag would be like Cousins suddenly developing pocket presence.

Neither is going to happen. they are what they are.

Cousins has excellent pocket presence IMO.

I’m hopeful Cousins starts playing well against good teams, and starts winning games as opposed to just stat stuffing.

However Kirk Cousins IMO is tone deaf as it comes to pocket presence...

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From what I've heard Jones has played well. There will be surprises, though, no doubt. Good players will have to cut.

I didn't get any response for my take on the final cuts with regard to the cornerbacks. Any comments before I move on to the next position group? Let's make it the linebackers.

I agree with the CBs: Waynes, Rhodes, Mac, Hughes. I probably keep Boyd or Bernicke at this point. If Hughes needs to start on PUP, then you have to keep both. Hill will be on suspension, he can be evaluated when he comes back.

With Kearse looking so good at a Big Slot and safety, I think you can get away with only 5 CBs at the start of the season (again depending on Hughes and counting Kearse as S).

Because Hughes will not be ready for game one, keeping five means only having four. I think the team has to keep six including Hughes. But I like your take on the idea of counting Kearse as a nickel safety. I didn't think of that.

Bruce where are you getting that Hughes will absolutely without question not be ready for game one from? Paul Allen or Vikings personnel? Or do you consider PA to be Vikings personnel? Is he?

He is paid by the Vikings as the broadcaster. He did say that Hughes will not be ready for game one He still has not even practiced with the team and we're about 19 days before game one of the season. He hasn't practiced for nearly a year, so I'm thinking he will not be counted on so quickly. When he does return, he will not be a starter anyway, unless one of the starters is injured.

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https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-vikings-defeat-seahawks-in-preseason-game-no-2/

Zimmer missed a fairly clear chance to challenge a defensive pass interference call potentially committed against Bisi Johnson that could’ve given the ball to the Vikings near the goal line. Instead, Mannion threw his Pick 6 on the very next play. Zimmer seemed exasperated by the new rule after the game. “It’s hard to know when they’re going to call it, when they’re not going to call it,” he said.

Getting Zim to improve his clock mgmt and when/when not to throw the challenge flag would be like Cousins suddenly developing pocket presence.

Neither is going to happen. they are what they are.

Cousins has excellent pocket presence IMO.

I’m hopeful Cousins starts playing well against good teams, and starts winning games as opposed to just stat stuffing.

However Kirk Cousins IMO is tone deaf as it comes to pocket presence...

Excellent was an overstatement, but I don't have any problem with his pocket presence.

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we don't have a preference....we're telling you the team clearly prefers Mannion (Matthew Coller on Twitter)

Sloter is going to end up being "the one that got away" for the next decade...

Watch the deft and unhurried fakes Sloter does when doing play-action. Very impressive and deceptive.

Look at Sloter's poise and judgement compared to that stiff Mannequin's. How may boneheaded decisions/plays have you seen Sloter make? Do you remember his receivers getting blown up from him making panicked/ill-advised throws?

Watch how effortlessly he flings the ball all over the field with complete confidence. He reminds me of Kurt Warner with his ball placement and quick release. They kept rolling him out to the left and he still had no problem hitting receivers perfectly in stride while on the run.

WTH am I missing? Is he going to suddenly come unglued when 19 and 14 are on the field against a more skillful D when he gets smacked in the jaw? I seriously doubt it, as Sloter seems to have the unquantifiable "it" and burning desire to be great and prove his detractors wrong along with his other obvious gifts. I can totally see 19 and 14 getting huge YAC as Sloter has been showing great judgement and confidence throwing right into the teeth of the defense with his apparently excellent field vision.

He's a late-bloomer with extremely limited experience and will obviously have growing pains, but I think we could have a top-10 or better talent in a few years. Imagine him with experience and "polish". I know it is very rube-like to think/feel this way in regards to a 3rd-string qb, but I don't care about that perception. I just want Sloter to have a chance, because it would be so Viking-like to let him get away and lead another team to a championship.

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It sounds like Jones has graded out well and Elflein has not. Perhaps Jones should start in his place. Elflein may just have had a really bad matchup vs the Seahawks, too. That happens. I want to see one more game and I'll be watching Elflein.

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Too bad Zimmer isn't getting caught up in what Mannion has done against NFL teams...

If we actually had a viable guy ahead of Sloter that would be one thing, but outride of his Jr. year of college, Mannion has never been good and his game is full of fatal flaws.