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thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:03:44 PM)

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.



thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:07:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Not even close, they brought in garbage as backups to Ponder. The point is who cares who is #2 and who is #3 if they both make the team. Sloter needs to accept some of the blame, there have been 3 different coordinators (Norv, Flip, and now Stepanski) who think he should be #3 and they have been given free reign on the choices.


How do you know that? Flip wasn't even allowed to call games the way he wanted to. I doubt he had much say over the depth chart.

(And Mannion is garbage. He's had one good season in his career - his JR year of college, and that was all Brandin Cooks).


And Norv was pre-Sloter



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:10:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Not even close, they brought in garbage as backups to Ponder. The point is who cares who is #2 and who is #3 if they both make the team. Sloter needs to accept some of the blame, there have been 3 different coordinators (Norv, Flip, and now Stepanski) who think he should be #3 and they have been given free reign on the choices.


How do you know that? Flip wasn't even allowed to call games the way he wanted to. I doubt he had much say over the depth chart.

(And Mannion is garbage. He's had one good season in his career - his JR year of college, and that was all Brandin Cooks).


And Norv was pre-Sloter


Flip, Stepanski, and Kubiak then????



TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:11:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.



thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:21:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: geoffrey greitzer

Yo Bigo.
Chill the f out...dude. Don't u have better things to do?


Rather thin skinned, aren't you?



thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:23:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Not even close, they brought in garbage as backups to Ponder. The point is who cares who is #2 and who is #3 if they both make the team. Sloter needs to accept some of the blame, there have been 3 different coordinators (Norv, Flip, and now Stepanski) who think he should be #3 and they have been given free reign on the choices.


How do you know that? Flip wasn't even allowed to call games the way he wanted to. I doubt he had much say over the depth chart.

(And Mannion is garbage. He's had one good season in his career - his JR year of college, and that was all Brandin Cooks).


And Norv was pre-Sloter


Flip, Stepanski, and Kubiak then????


there was like some other guy in 2017.



thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:25:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.


I think it does matter what side of the ball they are on, ESPECIALLY with Kubiak in town.



TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:28:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.


I think it does matter what side of the ball they are on, ESPECIALLY with Kubiak in town.

Nah. Zim is the final word. When he makes up his mind he doesn't defer to anybody. That's why we saw guys like Norv and Flip gone in the middle of seasons.



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:32:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.


I think it does matter what side of the ball they are on, ESPECIALLY with Kubiak in town.


Another old guy that probably doesn't like how Sloter wears his cap...



kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:38:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Vikings Corner@VikingsCorner
The #Vikings announced CB Mike Hughes has been removed from the physically unable to perform list. He spent time rehabbing his knee during training camp.

Chris Tomasson@christomasson
Mike Hughes cleared to practice and might have chance to play in Sept 8 opener vs Atlanta We will have to see how that goes.

Nice to hear that Hughes will be ready for game one or soon afterwards. People have been treating him missing time as if it were fact.



McMurfy -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:43:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.


I think it does matter what side of the ball they are on, ESPECIALLY with Kubiak in town.


Another old guy that probably doesn't like how Sloter wears his cap...



Also, as a career Backup QB,
Kubiak’s perecption of what a Backup QB is, is likely old school out of date philosophy.

He see’s an extra Coach who never challenges to start, just holds a clipboard and fills in for about 3 quarters every year.
He sees himself while others see a future.

It’s why Gardenhire loved him some overmatched, skinny, slappy Nick Punto so much,



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:44:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Vikings Corner@VikingsCorner
The #Vikings announced CB Mike Hughes has been removed from the physically unable to perform list. He spent time rehabbing his knee during training camp.

Chris Tomasson@christomasson
Mike Hughes cleared to practice and might have chance to play in Sept 8 opener vs Atlanta We will have to see how that goes.


Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
The fact the Vikings took Hughes off the PUP list before the season, though, obviously means they expect he'll be able to play before Week 6. Hughes did say he'd likely start the season with a brace on his knee, until he's comfortable shedding it, and wants to return kicks again.

Sam Ekstrom@SamEkstrom
Mike Hughes bullet points:

-Not ready to totally ditch the knee brace. He's been rehabbing on and off with it.
-Confirmed he suffered more damage than just an ACL tear but didn't elaborate.
-Unclear on timeline to fully practice.
-Upon return, hopes to contribute in return game.

Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
Mike Hughes said the Vikings are continuing to "take it slow" with his rehab, offered no timetable of when he could play or practice with the team and declined to provide specifics about further damage to his knee, following Mike Zimmer admitting it was a multi-ligament tear.



kevinemmer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:50:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.


Agreed.

Whispers I heard were his "study habits".



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:53:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

I strongly doubt that Zimmer is making the call as to who our #2 QB is.

I don't. Zim is the final say and he has his guys that he likes for whatever reason. I don't think it matters one bit what side of the ball they are on. I think something about Sloter rubbed him the wrong way from the beginning and he never changed his mind.


I think it does matter what side of the ball they are on, ESPECIALLY with Kubiak in town.


I was going to say that I do believe Zimmer is going to give a lot of latitude to Kubiak in personnel decisions. All of us would like to be a fly in the room where the roster decisions are hammered out. Stefanski probably will have his say too along with Spielmann. My guess is there will be some push and pull as they collaborate on the offensive players, but not so much on the defensive players.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 4:55:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Vikings Corner@VikingsCorner
The #Vikings announced CB Mike Hughes has been removed from the physically unable to perform list. He spent time rehabbing his knee during training camp.

Chris Tomasson@christomasson
Mike Hughes cleared to practice and might have chance to play in Sept 8 opener vs Atlanta We will have to see how that goes.

Nice to hear that Hughes will be ready for game one or soon afterwards. People have been treating him missing time as if it were fact.


He may be needed to take Rhodes spot.



kevinemmer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 5:13:40 PM)

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/8/26/20832296/does-performance-matter-mike-zimmer-minnesota-vikings

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Frustrating!



osure -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 5:14:35 PM)

Is it time to worry already I didn't think they looked good on either side of the ball. The only time they seem to get life in them is when sloter came in. The first just seemed like they were bored or did I read all this wrong



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 5:39:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/8/26/20832296/does-performance-matter-mike-zimmer-minnesota-vikings

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Frustrating!


Its harsh, but totally fair.

Even the comments are surprisingly reasonable for DN.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 6:00:17 PM)

I'm all over this one.

One note from Vikings walk-throughs today: It was just the team's projected starters and players unlikely to play in the fourth preseason game. Bisi Johnson was in that group. So if it wasn't clear before, expect Johnson to make the team's 53-man roster.

(Chad Graff on Twitter)



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 6:10:57 PM)

While slowly working my way through Saturday's #Vikings game, my big takeaway has been the run blocking of the second-team offensive line. Several successful rushes were fueled by positive interior reps. The OL roster cuts will be interesting within this group.

(Daniel House on Twitter)

I think he liked Dakota Dozier.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 6:13:27 PM)

Samia looked good too!

https://twitter.com/LukeBraunNFL/status/1166018196022812673?s=09



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 6:58:45 PM)

Re-watching Elflein's game and there's not much at all to be upset about so far (I'm halfway through the 3rd drive). Couple of sketchy engagements at the second level but that's it

(Luke Braun on Twitter)



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 7:04:29 PM)

Dalvin Cook topped out at 19.74 MPH during his 85-yard touchdown run on Saturday.

(Minnesota Vikings on Twitter)

If my math is correct that means if he had a running start before the 40 yard dash he would complete it in just over 3 seconds.(In full uniform carrying a football!) Maybe somebody smarter than me can confirm that.



Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 8:44:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Samia looked good too!

https://twitter.com/LukeBraunNFL/status/1166018196022812673?s=09

I think right now his best attributes are his quickness to wall off a guy one way or the other.

If he has to stop an Akiem Hicks bull rush, we are in trouble.

I think Dennison and the strength coach can make him a starter by next year but he would probably struggle this year.



Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2019 9:19:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

There are a couple positives going into the season for me is that they shored up the oline with Kline and Bradbury, added a big threat at TE, Cook looks healthy, and the LBs (mostly Kendricks and Barr) look healthy going into the season. This is one of the deepest Vikings teams we have had in years as they added some offense this year.

I would rather have a wake up call in the 3rd preseason game then during the season.



Agreed. Definitely areas to be excited about, IMO. Hope it all comes together.

I was a huge proponent of signing Cousins. I mostly have been on the Zim train (I recognize many of the flaws discussed). So if things derail this year, I'm ok with all the scrutiny that will be on Cousins, Zim, and Rick.



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