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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Not ecstatic with Speilman/Zimmer by any stretch, and in fact more inclined to move on. But the narrative that we can evaluate a QB on TV during the fourth quarter of the third exhibition game than they can seeing him play and interacting with him every day is ludicrous beyond words. They could still be wrong, but we're not seeing something they're blind to. In fact, it's entirely the opposite: they're seeing everything, 98% of which we're not privy to. We could still be right, but it's not an insight issue.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

With all the injuries we've sustained in recent weeks, it feels like we're being held together with Elmer's Glue. We're a walking Mash unit.

National media is really down us. NO CHANCE at all. We are literally an afterthought.

If there's a game you can get up for, it's this one. No reason to come out and play like pansies. Zimmer has no reason to "Play it Safe." There should be no wasted plays. Playing it safe on defense. Playing it safe on offense. LOSERS Mentality.

Payton is gonna come out with the intention of going for the throat right away. If we WIMPY our way out on the field to start, it won't be pretty.

New Orleans can be had. Brees can be flustered and hammered. Zimmer needs to be Exotic and Chaotic.

Stefanski, are you looking for a head coaching gig? Here's your chance. Show up with REAL game plan. Make those teams looking for head coach take notice. Don't come out with some conservative shit plan and then watch the team the team fall behind by three TDs.

They need to let the Saints know right away they're in for a fight. Punch 'em in the mouth from the start.

If you're gonna lose, go down swinging.

What?

We are not a walking mash unit.

The starting offense is TOTALLY INTACT. That has to be a rare feat.

The starting defense is virtually intact, all present except the great Ben Gedeon. One could count the nickel as a starter, but even then we have only one-two of twelve out.

Will be interesting to see if Cook and Kendricks really are healthy, but we are far healthier than the norm.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

So pleased that New England lost today. Btrady had a QB rating of like 42. I was going to say more, but I am holding back.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

It's very possible Sloter is just another guy.

But you can't tell me he didn't show enough in preseason to put some effort into developing.

Who are we developing at QB exactly.

Mannion... seriously...

You have ZERO chance to unearth a Tony Romo or Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson or whoever when you jettision a QB who at least did something with his time on the field.

Finding a QB on a rookie contract is a HUGE advantage in being able to compete.

Would be nice if the Vikings had someone in the wings with a chance of being something.... maybe Browning is that guy... would have liked to seen more from Sloter.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Forget about what you can see or project with Sloter and go with what you can see and project with Turd Mannion. The guy's a turd. We'd be picking first if he was our starting qb.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

It's very possible Sloter is just another guy.

But you can't tell me he didn't show enough in preseason to put some effort into developing.

Who are we developing at QB exactly.

Mannion... seriously...

You have ZERO chance to unearth a Tony Romo or Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson or whoever when you jettision a QB who at least did something with his time on the field.

Finding a QB on a rookie contract is a HUGE advantage in being able to compete.

Would be nice if the Vikings had someone in the wings with a chance of being something.... maybe Browning is that guy... would have liked to seen more from Sloter.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

It's very possible Sloter is just another guy.

But you can't tell me he didn't show enough in preseason to put some effort into developing.

Who are we developing at QB exactly.

Mannion... seriously...

You have ZERO chance to unearth a Tony Romo or Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson or whoever when you jettision a QB who at least did something with his time on the field.

Finding a QB on a rookie contract is a HUGE advantage in being able to compete.

Would be nice if the Vikings had someone in the wings with a chance of being something.... maybe Browning is that guy... would have liked to seen more from Sloter.

I have said that I wish Sloter could have got some 2nd team reps in Pre Season.

But, this isn't a Brett Favre or Kurt Warner situation. Sloter would have beaten out Hundley and certainly Blough if that were the case.

Or maybe we have to go with the theory that Kyler Murray and Mathew Stafford have fragile minds and their coaching staffs were protecting them.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

How playbook versed are the 3rd stringers in a preseason game?

Or in the huddle is the qb drawing up plays in the dirt like a pickup game at the Y?

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

It's very possible Sloter is just another guy.

But you can't tell me he didn't show enough in preseason to put some effort into developing.

Who are we developing at QB exactly.

Mannion... seriously...

You have ZERO chance to unearth a Tony Romo or Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson or whoever when you jettision a QB who at least did something with his time on the field.

Finding a QB on a rookie contract is a HUGE advantage in being able to compete.

Would be nice if the Vikings had someone in the wings with a chance of being something.... maybe Browning is that guy... would have liked to seen more from Sloter.

I have said that I wish Sloter could have got some 2nd team reps in Pre Season.

But, this isn't a Brett Favre or Kurt Warner situation. Sloter would have beaten out Hundley and certainly Blough if that were the case.

Or maybe we have to go with the theory that Kyler Murray and Mathew Stafford have fragile minds and their coaching staffs were protecting them.

That's where I stand on Sloter, it can't be everybody being fragile as to why Sloter isn't a starter or even a backup. Remember he was the odd man out in Denver as well when they had Osweiler, Siemian and the immortal Paxton Lynch.

But I will admit he looks the part in those limited preseason snaps.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

It's very possible Sloter is just another guy.

But you can't tell me he didn't show enough in preseason to put some effort into developing.

Who are we developing at QB exactly.

Mannion... seriously...

You have ZERO chance to unearth a Tony Romo or Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson or whoever when you jettision a QB who at least did something with his time on the field.

Finding a QB on a rookie contract is a HUGE advantage in being able to compete.

Would be nice if the Vikings had someone in the wings with a chance of being something.... maybe Browning is that guy... would have liked to seen more from Sloter.

I have said that I wish Sloter could have got some 2nd team reps in Pre Season.

But, this isn't a Brett Favre or Kurt Warner situation. Sloter would have beaten out Hundley and certainly Blough if that were the case.

Or maybe we have to go with the theory that Kyler Murray and Mathew Stafford have fragile minds and their coaching staffs were protecting them.

That's where I stand on Sloter, it can't be everybody being fragile as to why Sloter isn't a starter or even a backup. Remember he was the odd man out in Denver as well when they had Osweiler, Siemian and the immortal Paxton Lynch.

But I will admit he looks the part in those limited preseason snaps.

I think it's a reasonable take that Sloter didn't mesh here and will be nothing more than a backup. However, I don't agree with the narrative that he couldn't make it in Denver, or was on the practice squad in AZ as proof of it.

Paxton Lynch was hurt (shoulder) to start that season and was going to miss only 2-3 games. Broncos did not want to put him on IR. They resigned Osweiler so they had someone who knew system/depth. Sloter was a UDFA at that point - no way he could be back up. It simply became a numbers game there. Elway then got in a bidding war with Vikings and another team to sign Sloter after he was cut.

People forget that teams tried to trade for Sloter while he was with us.

I thought his interview seemed legit. I believe Sloter was told he would have a chance to battle for second string and then was not given that chance on the second day of OTAs.

We'll see how he does in Detroit with a full off-season to learn their offense.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

I see the Titans have Blasingame in quite a bit. That's interesting.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

You can only take advantage of the opportunities you've been given. I think he's done that. I don't think we know one way or another if he's actually good. He may be the type that excels in gameplay. He may not play well against starters. Who knows. I'm pretty sure he's a better player than Mannion who probably shouldn't be on anybody's roster at this point.

Remember when James Harrison was a nobody - until he was a somebody? Adam Thielen? My previously mentioned Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, and Tony Romo - what a bunch of LOSERS! - until they weren't.

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

With all the injuries we've sustained in recent weeks, it feels like we're being held together with Elmer's Glue. We're a walking Mash unit.

National media is really down us. NO CHANCE at all. We are literally an afterthought.

If there's a game you can get up for, it's this one. No reason to come out and play like pansies. Zimmer has no reason to "Play it Safe." There should be no wasted plays. Playing it safe on defense. Playing it safe on offense. LOSERS Mentality.

Payton is gonna come out with the intention of going for the throat right away. If we WIMPY our way out on the field to start, it won't be pretty.

New Orleans can be had. Brees can be flustered and hammered. Zimmer needs to be Exotic and Chaotic.

Stefanski, are you looking for a head coaching gig? Here's your chance. Show up with REAL game plan. Make those teams looking for head coach take notice. Don't come out with some conservative shit plan and then watch the team the team fall behind by three TDs.

They need to let the Saints know right away they're in for a fight. Punch 'em in the mouth from the start.

If you're gonna lose, go down swinging.

What?

We are not a walking mash unit.

The starting offense is TOTALLY INTACT. That has to be a rare feat.

The starting defense is virtually intact, all present except the great Ben Gedeon. One could count the nickel as a starter, but even then we have only one-two of twelve out.

Will be interesting to see if Cook and Kendricks really are healthy, but we are far healthier than the norm.

I stand by what I posted.

Sure, some guys are playing, but they are a beat up bunch.

Hughes is out.
Alexander is out.
Kendricks is hurt.
Odenigbo is hurt.
Cook is beat up.
Mattison is hurt.
Weatherly is hurt.
Joseph is hurt.
Rhodes is hurting.

All key contributors. Hopefully, Thielen is full strength, because he hasn't been the same guy since he's been back. The training staff is doing a good job getting these guys back on the field. The rest last week really helped too.

That said, I still think this team can win this game tomorrow, if the coaching staff does their job.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

So pleased that New England lost today. Btrady had a QB rating of like 42. I was going to say more, but I am holding back.

I said earlier this year the Pats just didn't look the same to me.

Now... lots of people have said NE reign was done over the years and eventually it was going to happen... I'm not omniscient here...

But they just didn't seem to have any offensive chemistry this year.
Edelman seemed like the only consistent weapon.
Sanu/Harry seem like they should be viable weapons but I never really saw the offense click.

Even in this game... at least 2x the Titans gave Brady the classic scenario to come back and extend the legend... but passes were slightly off... passes were dropped... I think it's possible the dynasty really is over.

Annnnddd.... they could come back next year and prove me totally wrong.
But it looks to me like Tom has fallen off to "good" instead of "great".
Their skill players look really average.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Sloter is just a guy. If he were so great or had such potential he wouldn't have been sitting on the Cardinals fricking practice squad. He was pick up by Detroit because the magical arm of Jeff Driskel got injured. [&:]

We really need to give up this crowning of Sloter. It's gotten worse than Todd Bouman fer cripes sake [:-]

+1, Jeff. If sloter was so badass, he'd be starting and killing it with some team. He's not doing either.

A few pages back, our coaching staff is supposedly idiots for letting Zylstra go. We needed those 8 catches he had this year.

It's very possible Sloter is just another guy.

But you can't tell me he didn't show enough in preseason to put some effort into developing.

Who are we developing at QB exactly.

Mannion... seriously...

You have ZERO chance to unearth a Tony Romo or Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson or whoever when you jettision a QB who at least did something with his time on the field.

Finding a QB on a rookie contract is a HUGE advantage in being able to compete.

Would be nice if the Vikings had someone in the wings with a chance of being something.... maybe Browning is that guy... would have liked to seen more from Sloter.

I have said that I wish Sloter could have got some 2nd team reps in Pre Season.

But, this isn't a Brett Favre or Kurt Warner situation. Sloter would have beaten out Hundley and certainly Blough if that were the case.

Or maybe we have to go with the theory that Kyler Murray and Mathew Stafford have fragile minds and their coaching staffs were protecting them.

That's where I stand on Sloter, it can't be everybody being fragile as to why Sloter isn't a starter or even a backup. Remember he was the odd man out in Denver as well when they had Osweiler, Siemian and the immortal Paxton Lynch.

But I will admit he looks the part in those limited preseason snaps.

I think it's a reasonable take that Sloter didn't mesh here and will be nothing more than a backup. However, I don't agree with the narrative that he couldn't make it in Denver, or was on the practice squad in AZ as proof of it.

Paxton Lynch was hurt (shoulder) to start that season and was going to miss only 2-3 games. Broncos did not want to put him on IR. They resigned Osweiler so they had someone who knew system/depth. Sloter was a UDFA at that point - no way he could be back up. It simply became a numbers game there. Elway then got in a bidding war with Vikings and another team to sign Sloter after he was cut.

People forget that teams tried to trade for Sloter while he was with us.

I thought his interview seemed legit. I believe Sloter was told he would have a chance to battle for second string and then was not given that chance on the second day of OTAs.

We'll see how he does in Detroit with a full off-season to learn their offense.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Forget about what you can see or project with Sloter and go with what you can see and project with Turd Mannion. The guy's a turd. We'd be picking first if he was our starting qb.