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kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 3:32:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Question:. Which receivers offer good route running? Diggs and Thielen are both good at that and it works with Cousins. Jeudy is supposed to be the best. Both Jeffersons are high on that list.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 3:35:20 PM)
This is sooo interesting to me. It breaks down the top receivers and ranks them by traits. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-rankings-the-top-10-wrs-ranked-by-trait-route-running-yac-speed-and-more/ I'd say that if I want to replace the route running of Diggs with the receivers likely to be available, Reagor is the guy.

kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 5:31:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson This is sooo interesting to me. It breaks down the top receivers and ranks them by traits. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-rankings-the-top-10-wrs-ranked-by-trait-route-running-yac-speed-and-more/ I'd say that if I want to replace the route running of Diggs with the receivers likely to be available, Reagor is the guy. I'm getting a good Vibe for Reagor. I wouldn't be upset if he is our pick at 25. Could be a TCU tandem of Gladney and Reagor. Out of the 6 categories they rated Reagor came out with an average of rank 3.67 per cat. Jeudy came out just behind him with an average of 3.83, Lamb was next best at 4.00 per cat. Ruggs next at 4.67. Now maybe the cats shouldn't be weighted equally, but rating them equally Reagor comes out as the best WR in the draft.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 5:46:01 PM)
Since there are so many supposedly good WRs coming out, maybe we better double up at CB in the 1st depending on who is left.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 5:46:55 PM)
22 - CB 25 - CB 58 - WR Trade up - OL This will change tomorrow when I go back to CB OL or DL WR OL or DL (whichever one was not addressed in the first)

Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:12:35 PM)
Too me it feels like any position group that is supposedly deep spells Spielman addressing it later not going for the cream of the crop. Wouldn't be surprised if no WR's the 1st 3 picks.

kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:16:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Too me it feels like any position group that is supposedly deep spells Spielman addressing it later not going for the cream of the crop. Wouldn't be surprised if no WR's the 1st 3 picks. I really want a WR in the first three. We could get a difference maker in the top three picks. Somebody we get later isn't likely to be more than just a guy.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:35:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Too me it feels like any position group that is supposedly deep spells Spielman addressing it later not going for the cream of the crop. Wouldn't be surprised if no WR's the 1st 3 picks. I think he gets caught in the tail end of the mix, what with Treadwell, Elf, and O'Neill. On multiple occasions he has said "Nobody saw that coming." [&o]

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:36:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Too me it feels like any position group that is supposedly deep spells Spielman addressing it later not going for the cream of the crop. Wouldn't be surprised if no WR's the 1st 3 picks. Has HD sorted out their new p/u process? Is business still strong even after the new means to shop?

Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:38:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen 22 - CB 25 - CB 58 - WR Trade up - OL This will change tomorrow when I go back to CB OL or DL WR OL or DL (whichever one was not addressed in the first) I like 2nd option. We have had 2 years of knowing the difference between good Cousins and bad Cousins. Fix the OLine.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:38:21 PM)
RS also watches Kiper's "Best of the Rest" and jumps on those guys.

Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:41:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen RS also watches Kiper's "Best of the Rest" and jumps on those guys. There have been times when I wish he would have.

Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 6:42:52 PM)
Cooks to Texans Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 7:07:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen RS also watches Kiper's "Best of the Rest" and jumps on those guys. There have been times when I wish he would have. He has multiple times. Granted since I don't routinely watch the entire draft, it's a small sample size. But even day 3 types when I did watch... astounding correlation.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/9/2020 7:09:46 PM)
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29018209/poll-fans-attend-games-vaccine In a Raising Arizona "Say, that reminds me" moment, if it comes to that will the NFL give people their money back, prorate, etc? NOTE: the sample size was 762 and may have been collegiate related. NFL fans are older so one would think the % would be higher, but then again a lot of them do not look like they use care to take care of themselves... so who knows?!

Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 7:34:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Cooks to Texans Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft? O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 8:30:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Cooks to Texans Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft? O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him. Did the Rams take a big hit in dead money, though? I'm not so sure it's a slam dunk trade for them. Maybe.

kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 8:39:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Cooks to Texans Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft? O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him. Did the Rams take a big hit in dead money, though? I'm not so sure it's a slam dunk trade for them. Maybe. This was a reverse trade of the Hopkins one. They received a 4th and gave a 2nd, they received a 2nd and gave a 44th. Other than swapping Hopkins for Cooks they got David Johnson and have to overpay him.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 9:20:17 AM)
Here are some details about the trade. I actually think it was an ugly trade for both teams. Lots of dead money for the Rams. https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2020/4/9/21215748/brandin-cooks-trade-rams-salary-cap-contract-texans

kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 9:26:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Here are some details about the trade. I actually think it was an ugly trade for both teams. Lots of dead money for the Rams. https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2020/4/9/21215748/brandin-cooks-trade-rams-salary-cap-contract-texans Watson is a MUCH BETTER QB than Goff. Cooks could have a resurgence.

beo -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 9:52:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Here are some details about the trade. I actually think it was an ugly trade for both teams. Lots of dead money for the Rams. https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2020/4/9/21215748/brandin-cooks-trade-rams-salary-cap-contract-texans Watson is a MUCH BETTER QB than Goff. Cooks could have a resurgence. He probably will to some degree... but do you trade Hopkins for Cooks? Not me.

Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 10:07:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Here are some details about the trade. I actually think it was an ugly trade for both teams. Lots of dead money for the Rams. https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2020/4/9/21215748/brandin-cooks-trade-rams-salary-cap-contract-texans Watson is a MUCH BETTER QB than Goff. Cooks could have a resurgence. 5 concussions is the problem for me....you go from an all world guy that has hammy questions weekly to a player that is one hit from being done. Drafting the replacement was a better option.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 10:09:56 AM)
LMAO at the NFL... last year they had draft crap in like three cities set up for a money grab. This year, zero. At least they moved some or all of it away from NY which spared viewers watching idiot Jets fans clapping and hooting for the pick even if they didn't know who the hell the player was. You can always tell... right after the announcement their eyes widen as they search their brain for just an iota of confirmation, eyes then instantly change to the deer in the headlights look when they find none, then the delayed, phony clap.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 10:13:13 AM)
I think Kiper coined the term "reach" when the Jets picked Jeff Lageman eons ago (checked and it was 1989). He provided a simple explanation, don't pick someone at a given spot when you can get the same player later.

bohumm -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/10/2020 10:33:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Cooks to Texans Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft? O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him. Hamler can't catch, though. Read any profile and that's a prominent feature. He just doesn't have the hands.

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