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Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/27/2020 7:41:32 AM)

Alex Smith with a 21.7 QBR today and Washington wins 41-16.
Team game, folks.

Dustin Baker on Twitter

I noticed that Lamb dropped a catchable TD pass yesterday after making an impossible catch for a TD against the Vikings. I guess football is like that.




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/27/2020 9:48:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Especially when the Vikings are disappointing, I am grateful for all of you (on this Thanksgiving Day) that together we can keep the hope alive.


Bruce, I know what your saying, but really seems like only about 1/4 of the posters here that will look at anything Vikings in a positive light.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/27/2020 10:27:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Especially when the Vikings are disappointing, I am grateful for all of you (on this Thanksgiving Day) that together we can keep the hope alive.


Bruce, I know what your saying, but really seems like only about 1/4 of the posters here that will look at anything Vikings in a positive light.


I'm going to give a pass to the posters in light of the repeated disappointments. Nevertheless, optimism is a choice and persistence is a virtue.




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/27/2020 10:30:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The Eric Wilson your seeing this season is not sustainable here’s why.

4 sacks to only 8 pressures.

3 INT’s to 0 pass breakups

15 run stops but 13 missed tackles

The metrics that usually show signs of a constantly good player isn’t there.

DeShawn Vaughan on Twitter


4 sacks to only 8 pressures. Maybe it means he knows when to go, and is a finisher.

3 INT’s to 0 pass breakups Maybe it means they don't throw at his guy much because of good coverage, and when they do he is in a good position, AND looking for the ball. Pro football reference has his passer rating against at a team leading 62.9

15 run stops but 13 missed tackles 13 missed tackles probably not good, I guess I don't really know what a run stop is, considering he has 70 tackles, so I don't see the relationship between run stops and missed tackles.




bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/27/2020 10:43:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

As a member of the Vikings, Randall Cunningham had only one game with 300+ Yards, 3+ TDs, and 0 INTs.

Dustin Baker

(Numbers that Cousins achieved yesterday)


I don't want a QB that knows how to achieve the perfect rating. I want one that is willing to risk a pick in the proper situation where if he can get the ball in that tight window it's a game-changing TD. If a QB will only throw to 'sure-things' that will eventually make an offense very much not dangerous. Give me a win yesterday with 3 TD passes and 2 INTs and screw the rating.

Yes, we need a QB with vision and a willingness to take productive risks. But Kirk will get killed if he does this and it results in an INT, and it's been that way ever since we signed him. He is an elite game manager, which is not overall elite. He is very good, but he draws inside the lines to a fault....and that's exactly what Zimmer wants.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 5:53:11 AM)

I have often quoted Dustin Baker. You might be interested to read this about him:

I lost my job in March when the pandemic struck. Started tweeting Vikings stats out of boredom. Inadvertently landed me writing gigs and a show interviewing NFL players.

An interesting thing about him to me is that he used to live just a few blocks from where I grew up on the East side. It is a good story when someone faces adversity, but manages to do better. Sometimes we have to take a step backwards in order to go forwards. Don't you think?




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 6:00:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

As a member of the Vikings, Randall Cunningham had only one game with 300+ Yards, 3+ TDs, and 0 INTs.

Dustin Baker

(Numbers that Cousins achieved yesterday)


I don't want a QB that knows how to achieve the perfect rating. I want one that is willing to risk a pick in the proper situation where if he can get the ball in that tight window it's a game-changing TD. If a QB will only throw to 'sure-things' that will eventually make an offense very much not dangerous. Give me a win yesterday with 3 TD passes and 2 INTs and screw the rating.

Yes, we need a QB with vision and a willingness to take productive risks. But Kirk will get killed if he does this and it results in an INT, and it's been that way ever since we signed him. He is an elite game manager, which is not overall elite. He is very good, but he draws inside the lines to a fault....and that's exactly what Zimmer wants.


The ideal quarterback finds a way to win in the end when adversity strikes. One problem is that there are very few of those kind of quarterbacks. Our offense, which excels in the running game is not built very well for winning at the end of games. It is built to win with dominant defenses, which we don't have. As much as we might like our tight ends, we don't have a dynamic tight end who puts defenses on their heels. We don't really have a third receiver whom defenses have to account for whenever he is on the field. And of course we don't have an offensive line that can give the immobile quarterback that extra moment to get his pass off when everybody knows that the play will be a pass.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 6:40:35 AM)

Some last personal notes about Thanksgiving Day. I have always thought of it as the best holiday. It is to God that we are giving thanks and it's a holiday when all of the family comes together without the awkwardness of giving and receiving presents. When I was a child I was fine with that, but as an adult it brings tension and anxiety. Thanksgiving Day is supposed to be the one holiday that is preserved to be pure and uninfluenced by marketing and materialism. There is great food and of course football.

I say all of that, but how ironic it has been for me to always be working on Thanksgiving Day. I have always coveted the extra money and so I have worked all of the holidays. The last time that I did not work on Thanksgiving was in 1993. On that day I was in Wisconsin and was managing a small shop in a mall in Racine, Wisconsin. (where the riots broke out recently) My family was back here in Minnesota. That was the last time I had the day off on Thanksgiving Day. There were a number of times when I would go to the Thanksgiving Day dinner with family and then have to leave for work. I always would feel sad having to leave. Everyone was relaxed and enjoying the desserts and drinks, but I had to work until Midnight and then get up at 5 in the morning to go to work again.

This Thanksgiving was different. I wanted to work. I signed up to work, but my boss called me and told me to rest and enjoy the day off. It was so strange for me to do so that I tried to negotiate only working a half day, but because of the Covid restraints he really had no work for me to do. (I'm a Metro Mobility driver.) So I stayed home. I napped in the afternoon and took the dog for a walk, which I do almost everyday. I watched and enjoyed the football games and then the family members came over for the big dinner. In the end I had to tell everyone that I was tired and needed to go to sleep. I get up at three in the morning so my schedule is kind of weird. But it was different in the past. Instead of being jealous of everyone because they could enjoy the holiday, I was kind of sad that I didn't have the vitality I used to have. As you all know, I got Covid this year and it's effects are added to the fact that I am getting old. It's a different chapter in my life, but it is a good chapter because I am lucky to have the devotion and respect from my adult children who all seem to be doing well in life. I have the most beautiful wife (soon to be married for 40 years) and a loyal dog who is all too happy to go for the daily walks with me. So I truly have a lot to be grateful for.

Sorry. This didn't have much to do with football. Carry on!




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 7:07:32 AM)

Dustin Baker previews tomorrow's game:

https://vikingsterritory.com/2020/general-news/what-does-a-thielen-less-offense-look-like




Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 7:56:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The Eric Wilson your seeing this season is not sustainable here’s why.

4 sacks to only 8 pressures.

3 INT’s to 0 pass breakups

15 run stops but 13 missed tackles

The metrics that usually show signs of a constantly good player isn’t there.

DeShawn Vaughan on Twitter


4 sacks to only 8 pressures. Maybe it means he knows when to go, and is a finisher.

3 INT’s to 0 pass breakups Maybe it means they don't throw at his guy much because of good coverage, and when they do he is in a good position, AND looking for the ball. Pro football reference has his passer rating against at a team leading 62.9

15 run stops but 13 missed tackles 13 missed tackles probably not good, I guess I don't really know what a run stop is, considering he has 70 tackles, so I don't see the relationship between run stops and missed tackles.

Agree 100% with your comments.

If he had 3PD's on 13 targets that'd be considered pretty good. But picking them off is miles better.

Yes the missed tackles are a concern. But I remember Kendricks missing a lot of tackles his first year starting. He improved in to the tackling machine he is today. I see no reason why Wilson can't shore up his tackling like Kendricks did.




Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 8:03:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Some last personal notes about Thanksgiving Day. I have always thought of it as the best holiday. It is to God that we are giving thanks and it's a holiday when all of the family comes together without the awkwardness of giving and receiving presents. When I was a child I was fine with that, but as an adult it brings tension and anxiety. Thanksgiving Day is supposed to be the one holiday that is preserved to be pure and uninfluenced by marketing and materialism. There is great food and of course football.

I say all of that, but how ironic it has been for me to always be working on Thanksgiving Day. I have always coveted the extra money and so I have worked all of the holidays. The last time that I did not work on Thanksgiving was in 1993. On that day I was in Wisconsin and was managing a small shop in a mall in Racine, Wisconsin. (where the riots broke out recently) My family was back here in Minnesota. That was the last time I had the day off on Thanksgiving Day. There were a number of times when I would go to the Thanksgiving Day dinner with family and then have to leave for work. I always would feel sad having to leave. Everyone was relaxed and enjoying the desserts and drinks, but I had to work until Midnight and then get up at 5 in the morning to go to work again.

This Thanksgiving was different. I wanted to work. I signed up to work, but my boss called me and told me to rest and enjoy the day off. It was so strange for me to do so that I tried to negotiate only working a half day, but because of the Covid restraints he really had no work for me to do. (I'm a Metro Mobility driver.) So I stayed home. I napped in the afternoon and took the dog for a walk, which I do almost everyday. I watched and enjoyed the football games and then the family members came over for the big dinner. In the end I had to tell everyone that I was tired and needed to go to sleep. I get up at three in the morning so my schedule is kind of weird. But it was different in the past. Instead of being jealous of everyone because they could enjoy the holiday, I was kind of sad that I didn't have the vitality I used to have. As you all know, I got Covid this year and it's effects are added to the fact that I am getting old. It's a different chapter in my life, but it is a good chapter because I am lucky to have the devotion and respect from my adult children who all seem to be doing well in life. I have the most beautiful wife (soon to be married for 40 years) and a loyal dog who is all too happy to go for the daily walks with me. So I truly have a lot to be grateful for.

Sorry. This didn't have much to do with football. Carry on!

Awesome post Bruce.

We always have the big dinner at 1pm. That way there is more time to sit around and enjoy pie and conversation afterwards with football on in the background.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 8:40:43 AM)

Is it too early for a 2021 NFL draft forum. I will post this here.

Spent the last few weeks studying OL for 2021 NFL Draft. Here’s my top 5 so far—
1) Rashawn Slater (Northwestern)
2) Penei Sewell (Oregon)
3) Alijah Vera-Tucker (USC)
4) Christian Darrisaw (Virginia Tech)
5) Teven Jenkins (Oklahoma St)

Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 8:48:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Some last personal notes about Thanksgiving Day. I have always thought of it as the best holiday. It is to God that we are giving thanks and it's a holiday when all of the family comes together without the awkwardness of giving and receiving presents. When I was a child I was fine with that, but as an adult it brings tension and anxiety. Thanksgiving Day is supposed to be the one holiday that is preserved to be pure and uninfluenced by marketing and materialism. There is great food and of course football.

I say all of that, but how ironic it has been for me to always be working on Thanksgiving Day. I have always coveted the extra money and so I have worked all of the holidays. The last time that I did not work on Thanksgiving was in 1993. On that day I was in Wisconsin and was managing a small shop in a mall in Racine, Wisconsin. (where the riots broke out recently) My family was back here in Minnesota. That was the last time I had the day off on Thanksgiving Day. There were a number of times when I would go to the Thanksgiving Day dinner with family and then have to leave for work. I always would feel sad having to leave. Everyone was relaxed and enjoying the desserts and drinks, but I had to work until Midnight and then get up at 5 in the morning to go to work again.

This Thanksgiving was different. I wanted to work. I signed up to work, but my boss called me and told me to rest and enjoy the day off. It was so strange for me to do so that I tried to negotiate only working a half day, but because of the Covid restraints he really had no work for me to do. (I'm a Metro Mobility driver.) So I stayed home. I napped in the afternoon and took the dog for a walk, which I do almost everyday. I watched and enjoyed the football games and then the family members came over for the big dinner. In the end I had to tell everyone that I was tired and needed to go to sleep. I get up at three in the morning so my schedule is kind of weird. But it was different in the past. Instead of being jealous of everyone because they could enjoy the holiday, I was kind of sad that I didn't have the vitality I used to have. As you all know, I got Covid this year and it's effects are added to the fact that I am getting old. It's a different chapter in my life, but it is a good chapter because I am lucky to have the devotion and respect from my adult children who all seem to be doing well in life. I have the most beautiful wife (soon to be married for 40 years) and a loyal dog who is all too happy to go for the daily walks with me. So I truly have a lot to be grateful for.

Sorry. This didn't have much to do with football. Carry on!

Awesome post Bruce.

We always have the big dinner at 1pm. That way there is more time to sit around and enjoy pie and conversation afterwards with football on in the background.


My son works the graveyard shift at the Mall of America. They hired a soldier to work security and being that it's a potential high profile terror target, I think they made a good hire. I mean they have to be serious about their security. So we had to find the best time for everyone for dinner.




Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 9:34:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Some last personal notes about Thanksgiving Day. I have always thought of it as the best holiday. It is to God that we are giving thanks and it's a holiday when all of the family comes together without the awkwardness of giving and receiving presents. When I was a child I was fine with that, but as an adult it brings tension and anxiety. Thanksgiving Day is supposed to be the one holiday that is preserved to be pure and uninfluenced by marketing and materialism. There is great food and of course football.

I say all of that, but how ironic it has been for me to always be working on Thanksgiving Day. I have always coveted the extra money and so I have worked all of the holidays. The last time that I did not work on Thanksgiving was in 1993. On that day I was in Wisconsin and was managing a small shop in a mall in Racine, Wisconsin. (where the riots broke out recently) My family was back here in Minnesota. That was the last time I had the day off on Thanksgiving Day. There were a number of times when I would go to the Thanksgiving Day dinner with family and then have to leave for work. I always would feel sad having to leave. Everyone was relaxed and enjoying the desserts and drinks, but I had to work until Midnight and then get up at 5 in the morning to go to work again.

This Thanksgiving was different. I wanted to work. I signed up to work, but my boss called me and told me to rest and enjoy the day off. It was so strange for me to do so that I tried to negotiate only working a half day, but because of the Covid restraints he really had no work for me to do. (I'm a Metro Mobility driver.) So I stayed home. I napped in the afternoon and took the dog for a walk, which I do almost everyday. I watched and enjoyed the football games and then the family members came over for the big dinner. In the end I had to tell everyone that I was tired and needed to go to sleep. I get up at three in the morning so my schedule is kind of weird. But it was different in the past. Instead of being jealous of everyone because they could enjoy the holiday, I was kind of sad that I didn't have the vitality I used to have. As you all know, I got Covid this year and it's effects are added to the fact that I am getting old. It's a different chapter in my life, but it is a good chapter because I am lucky to have the devotion and respect from my adult children who all seem to be doing well in life. I have the most beautiful wife (soon to be married for 40 years) and a loyal dog who is all too happy to go for the daily walks with me. So I truly have a lot to be grateful for.

Sorry. This didn't have much to do with football. Carry on!

You're a good man, Bruce.




Guest -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 11:26:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Some last personal notes about Thanksgiving Day. I have always thought of it as the best holiday. It is to God that we are giving thanks and it's a holiday when all of the family comes together without the awkwardness of giving and receiving presents. When I was a child I was fine with that, but as an adult it brings tension and anxiety. Thanksgiving Day is supposed to be the one holiday that is preserved to be pure and uninfluenced by marketing and materialism. There is great food and of course football.

I say all of that, but how ironic it has been for me to always be working on Thanksgiving Day. I have always coveted the extra money and so I have worked all of the holidays. The last time that I did not work on Thanksgiving was in 1993. On that day I was in Wisconsin and was managing a small shop in a mall in Racine, Wisconsin. (where the riots broke out recently) My family was back here in Minnesota. That was the last time I had the day off on Thanksgiving Day. There were a number of times when I would go to the Thanksgiving Day dinner with family and then have to leave for work. I always would feel sad having to leave. Everyone was relaxed and enjoying the desserts and drinks, but I had to work until Midnight and then get up at 5 in the morning to go to work again.

This Thanksgiving was different. I wanted to work. I signed up to work, but my boss called me and told me to rest and enjoy the day off. It was so strange for me to do so that I tried to negotiate only working a half day, but because of the Covid restraints he really had no work for me to do. (I'm a Metro Mobility driver.) So I stayed home. I napped in the afternoon and took the dog for a walk, which I do almost everyday. I watched and enjoyed the football games and then the family members came over for the big dinner. In the end I had to tell everyone that I was tired and needed to go to sleep. I get up at three in the morning so my schedule is kind of weird. But it was different in the past. Instead of being jealous of everyone because they could enjoy the holiday, I was kind of sad that I didn't have the vitality I used to have. As you all know, I got Covid this year and it's effects are added to the fact that I am getting old. It's a different chapter in my life, but it is a good chapter because I am lucky to have the devotion and respect from my adult children who all seem to be doing well in life. I have the most beautiful wife (soon to be married for 40 years) and a loyal dog who is all too happy to go for the daily walks with me. So I truly have a lot to be grateful for.

Sorry. This didn't have much to do with football. Carry on!

You're a good man, Bruce.



Yep, Bruce is a gem.

Truly the essence of the holiday season.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 2:20:28 PM)

Trial by fire on a team with minimum pass rush. his job becomes easier when hunter, pierce and barr are back Upside-down face

Jeff Gladney has improved over the course of his rookie season so far:

When targeted weeks 2-8:
(Barely played week 1)

71.4% completion
66.3 Yds/Game
9.5 Yds/Tgt
5 TD - 0 INT

Last 3 games:

62.5% completion
48 Yds/Game
6.0 Yds/Tgt
1 TD - 0 INT

(Tanishka on Twitter)




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 3:31:21 PM)

The #Lions have fired coach Matt Patricia and GM Bob Quinn.

Ian Rapoport on Twitter




Guest -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 4:37:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The #Lions have fired coach Matt Patricia and GM Bob Quinn.

Ian Rapoport on Twitter



Was hoping they’d keep that dude around a few more years like Wayne Fontes.




Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 5:27:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Trial by fire on a team with minimum pass rush. his job becomes easier when hunter, pierce and barr are back Upside-down face

Jeff Gladney has improved over the course of his rookie season so far:

When targeted weeks 2-8:
(Barely played week 1)

71.4% completion
66.3 Yds/Game
9.5 Yds/Tgt
5 TD - 0 INT

Last 3 games:

62.5% completion
48 Yds/Game
6.0 Yds/Tgt
1 TD - 0 INT

(Tanishka on Twitter)


I think that has more to do with Foles in one of those games
His PFF rating was one of the worst vs Dallas
He looks like just a guy to me




Steve Lentz -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 5:28:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Some last personal notes about Thanksgiving Day. I have always thought of it as the best holiday. It is to God that we are giving thanks and it's a holiday when all of the family comes together without the awkwardness of giving and receiving presents. When I was a child I was fine with that, but as an adult it brings tension and anxiety. Thanksgiving Day is supposed to be the one holiday that is preserved to be pure and uninfluenced by marketing and materialism. There is great food and of course football.

I say all of that, but how ironic it has been for me to always be working on Thanksgiving Day. I have always coveted the extra money and so I have worked all of the holidays. The last time that I did not work on Thanksgiving was in 1993. On that day I was in Wisconsin and was managing a small shop in a mall in Racine, Wisconsin. (where the riots broke out recently) My family was back here in Minnesota. That was the last time I had the day off on Thanksgiving Day. There were a number of times when I would go to the Thanksgiving Day dinner with family and then have to leave for work. I always would feel sad having to leave. Everyone was relaxed and enjoying the desserts and drinks, but I had to work until Midnight and then get up at 5 in the morning to go to work again.

This Thanksgiving was different. I wanted to work. I signed up to work, but my boss called me and told me to rest and enjoy the day off. It was so strange for me to do so that I tried to negotiate only working a half day, but because of the Covid restraints he really had no work for me to do. (I'm a Metro Mobility driver.) So I stayed home. I napped in the afternoon and took the dog for a walk, which I do almost everyday. I watched and enjoyed the football games and then the family members came over for the big dinner. In the end I had to tell everyone that I was tired and needed to go to sleep. I get up at three in the morning so my schedule is kind of weird. But it was different in the past. Instead of being jealous of everyone because they could enjoy the holiday, I was kind of sad that I didn't have the vitality I used to have. As you all know, I got Covid this year and it's effects are added to the fact that I am getting old. It's a different chapter in my life, but it is a good chapter because I am lucky to have the devotion and respect from my adult children who all seem to be doing well in life. I have the most beautiful wife (soon to be married for 40 years) and a loyal dog who is all too happy to go for the daily walks with me. So I truly have a lot to be grateful for.

Sorry. This didn't have much to do with football. Carry on!

You're a good man, Bruce.

Yes he is and it sounds like he has a loving Family!!




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 8:23:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The #Lions have fired coach Matt Patricia and GM Bob Quinn.

Ian Rapoport on Twitter


I'd have thought that with four wins during a crazy offseason they'd have extended him.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 8:41:33 PM)

The Saints are not going to lose tomorrow.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/broncos-saints-qb-covid-19-driskel-rypien-lock-bortles-contact-tracing-sunday-nfl-232337909.html




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/28/2020 8:43:46 PM)

Important to note that the Vikings didn't elevate WR Alexander Hollins from the PS. Could be a sign that they're confident Thielen will go tomorrow.

Purple FTW on Twitter




Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/29/2020 6:59:16 AM)

Gladney has the worst CB rating, and all 3 of these guys are amongst the worst in the league
Gladney ranks 13th worst in coverage in the NFL

Opp
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
VS. CB
Kris Boyd
Jeff Gladney
Chris Jones
MATCHUP RTG
15.77
8.45
11.65
WR RTG
68.60
57.08
64.62
CB RTG
52.83
48.64
52.97




Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/29/2020 7:05:34 AM)

Your worst rated CBs in coverage this year

Arthur Maulet
Desmond Trufant
Vernon Hargreaves
Troy Pride
Luq Barcoo
Josiah Scott
Tre Herndon
LeShaun Sims
Lamar Jackson
Darnay Holmes
Isaac Yiadom
Rashard Robinson
Jeff Gladney




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