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Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 10:09:46 AM)
Outside of a couple of outliers, over the last 5 years every team in the NFL has had an average age from 25 to 26.9. Unless it's extreme, the whole age thing doesn't matter. Release a player like Newman and your team's age goes down a half year while dropping 10 spots in the rankings.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 11:20:14 AM)
I'm more interested in the age of the starting lineups. Teams always have a sizable contingent of young players filling depth and ST roles, which brings the team average down. How old are the guys who play most of the time?

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 2:00:11 PM)
There are more than 22 players who play on game day. Of course you can have a 40 year old kicker and it won't affect the vitality of the team so much. For me the age of the defense is the most important question. Offensive linemen and quarterbacks can be older, but on defense it's definitely a young man's game.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 2:11:45 PM)
2 additional roster spots this year from 53 to 55. Plus 2 more PS spots.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 3:22:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro 2 additional roster spots this year from 53 to 55. Plus 2 more PS spots. 12 plus 55 means 67 total players, but in two years the practice squad will be 14 players. Do I have it right?

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 6:16:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro 2 additional roster spots this year from 53 to 55. Plus 2 more PS spots. 12 plus 55 means 67 total players, but in two years the practice squad will be 14 players. Do I have it right? The 55 roster is a misconception I think. Teams will be able to get to 55 by borrowing 2 players from the PS each week. So I think Roster 55 plus 10 PS makes 65. I could be confused about this a bit.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/3/2020 9:19:26 PM)
To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter)

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 1:49:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter) There’s talk that sharpe doesn’t make the team with Jefferson and Davis in the fold....

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 7:24:25 AM)
Prior to Mike Zimmer's arrival, the Vikings had 20 or fewer turnovers in a season twice in team history: 1998 and 2009. Since his hire, they have had 20 or fewer turnovers in every single season. (Dustin Baker)

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 7:33:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter) There’s talk that sharpe doesn’t make the team with Jefferson and Davis in the fold.... The third receiver on should be active on special teams. I don't know if Sharpe has a history of reps on special teams. Maybe, if he was the #4 guy last year.

Hats4Bats -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 7:45:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter) There’s talk that sharpe doesn’t make the team with Jefferson and Davis in the fold.... Sharpe makes the team. we can use a guy like him. Way better than Treadwell ever was! I predict Thielen, Jefferson, Sharpe, Q. Davis, Bisi, and KJ Osborn all make the team.

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 8:02:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Prior to Mike Zimmer's arrival, the Vikings had 20 or fewer turnovers in a season twice in team history: 1998 and 2009. Since his hire, they have had 20 or fewer turnovers in every single season. (Dustin Baker) The endless positive stats that Dustin Baker digs up are interesting at face value. But I've reached the conclusion that for almost every positive one, there's an equally negative one left unsaid.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 8:59:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter) There’s talk that sharpe doesn’t make the team with Jefferson and Davis in the fold.... Sharpe makes the team. we can use a guy like him. Way better than Treadwell ever was! I predict Thielen, Jefferson, Sharpe, Q. Davis, Bisi, and KJ Osborn all make the team. If Sharpe can't make this wr squad he will be sweeping floors at a used car dealership.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 3:27:05 PM)
Purple for the Win bit about Udoh on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gs5UMwnauI If you believe this than you should have no worries whatsoever about the Vikings OL.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 3:34:14 PM)
Since nobody has done it yet let me be the first today. MAY THE 4th be with you. [sm=buttrock.gif][sm=buttrock.gif]

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 6:33:33 PM)
The Vikings last year featured a three wide receiver set only 21% of the time, which was the lowest in the NFL. That was partly because of the injury to Thielen, but what has to be pointed out is that we didn't have a slot receiver very much. Jefferson is going to have to get used to lining up wide with the Vikings. Cleveland had 2100 snaps at LT in college. That is where he will be more comfortable and it doesn't make sense to move him in for one year and then outside next. That will hold back his development. If Cleveland isn't ready to start, then Hill can start game one and Reiff can focus on LG. (or Udoh)

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 6:41:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson The Vikings last year featured a three wide receiver set only 21% of the time, which was the lowest in the NFL. That was partly because of the injury to Thielen, but what has to be pointed out is that we didn't have a slot receiver very much. Jefferson is going to have to get used to lining up wide with the Vikings. Isn't that more indicative that we would be in the 3 wide receiver set more in 2020 (going forward) because we now have a slot receiver in Jefferson?

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 6:58:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson The Vikings last year featured a three wide receiver set only 21% of the time, which was the lowest in the NFL. That was partly because of the injury to Thielen, but what has to be pointed out is that we didn't have a slot receiver very much. Jefferson is going to have to get used to lining up wide with the Vikings. Isn't that more indicative that we would be in the 3 wide receiver set more in 2020 (going forward) because we now have a slot receiver in Jefferson? I don't think so. Both Thielen and Diggs are experienced Slot receivers. We picked Jefferson in spite of his slot experience not because of it.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 6:59:15 PM)
Any interest in Ross. He could probably be had cheap. Bengals declined the fifth-year option on WR John Ross for 2021. This reality could lead to second-round pick Tee Higgins perhaps finding his way into three-WR sets sooner rather than later. Ross has totaled a pedestrian 49-716-10 receiving line in 24 games since entering the league in 2017. The former No. 9 overall pick has struggled to stay on the field, but flashed serious upside with 7-158-2 and 4-112-1 performances to start the 2019 season. Speed kills, and the man who once ran the 40-yard dash in 4.22 seconds will assuredly get a second chance elsewhere to find a consistent role. SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter May 2, 2020, 5:34 PM ET

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 9:10:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson The Vikings last year featured a three wide receiver set only 21% of the time, which was the lowest in the NFL. That was partly because of the injury to Thielen, but what has to be pointed out is that we didn't have a slot receiver very much. Jefferson is going to have to get used to lining up wide with the Vikings. Isn't that more indicative that we would be in the 3 wide receiver set more in 2020 (going forward) because we now have a slot receiver in Jefferson? I don't think so. Both Thielen and Diggs are experienced Slot receivers. We picked Jefferson in spite of his slot experience not because of it. Diggs is gone, but one factor is our two tight end sets, which I like because it's tough for the defense to know in advance if the tight ends will be blocking or be pass receivers. I was wondering how often Irv Smith Jr. or perhaps a running back like Abdulah go wide with a wide receiver in the slot. Does that happen? That's no more wild than a Wildcat formation where the quarterback goes wide, but that's just a gadget play. Smith going wide might be viable and it would put a wide receiver who likes the slot in the slot. I don't know. I'm just rambling. I think the real point is that Thielen and Jefferson will have to go wide most of the time.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 9:46:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter) There’s talk that sharpe doesn’t make the team with Jefferson and Davis in the fold.... Sharpe makes the team. we can use a guy like him. Way better than Treadwell ever was! I predict Thielen, Jefferson, Sharpe, Q. Davis, Bisi, and KJ Osborn all make the team. If Sharpe can't make this wr squad he will be sweeping floors at a used car dealership. He likely has already made the squad. Our coaching staff isn't exactly known for holding competitions for starting spots or roster spots.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 9:58:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson To give you some perspective on how infrequently Tajaé Sharpe was utilized in the Titans offense.. WR Targets, 2019: Bisi Johnson, MIN = 45 Tajaé Sharpe, TEN = 35 (Dustin Baker on Twitter) There’s talk that sharpe doesn’t make the team with Jefferson and Davis in the fold.... Sharpe makes the team. we can use a guy like him. Way better than Treadwell ever was! I predict Thielen, Jefferson, Sharpe, Q. Davis, Bisi, and KJ Osborn all make the team. If Sharpe can't make this wr squad he will be sweeping floors at a used car dealership. He likely has already made the squad. Our coaching staff isn't exactly known for holding competitions for starting spots or roster spots. If the off-season does become abbreviated, then Sharpe's chances of making the roster are much improved.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/4/2020 11:07:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom Any interest in Ross. He could probably be had cheap. Bengals declined the fifth-year option on WR John Ross for 2021. This reality could lead to second-round pick Tee Higgins perhaps finding his way into three-WR sets sooner rather than later. Ross has totaled a pedestrian 49-716-10 receiving line in 24 games since entering the league in 2017. The former No. 9 overall pick has struggled to stay on the field, but flashed serious upside with 7-158-2 and 4-112-1 performances to start the 2019 season. Speed kills, and the man who once ran the 40-yard dash in 4.22 seconds will assuredly get a second chance elsewhere to find a consistent role. SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter May 2, 2020, 5:34 PM ET We'd have to trade for him since he's under contract this year. His salary is 2.8M. I would love his 4.22 speed but how often do we go 3 WR sets? I don't think Bengals want to trade him and take another weapon from their rookie QB. 5th year option would have cost them 16M and guaranteed if injured. He hasn't produced enough to warrant that and they can always use the franchise tag if he turns it around.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/5/2020 9:20:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom Any interest in Ross. He could probably be had cheap. Bengals declined the fifth-year option on WR John Ross for 2021. This reality could lead to second-round pick Tee Higgins perhaps finding his way into three-WR sets sooner rather than later. Ross has totaled a pedestrian 49-716-10 receiving line in 24 games since entering the league in 2017. The former No. 9 overall pick has struggled to stay on the field, but flashed serious upside with 7-158-2 and 4-112-1 performances to start the 2019 season. Speed kills, and the man who once ran the 40-yard dash in 4.22 seconds will assuredly get a second chance elsewhere to find a consistent role. SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter May 2, 2020, 5:34 PM ET We'd have to trade for him since he's under contract this year. His salary is 2.8M. I would love his 4.22 speed but how often do we go 3 WR sets? I don't think Bengals want to trade him and take another weapon from their rookie QB. 5th year option would have cost them 16M and guaranteed if injured. He hasn't produced enough to warrant that and they can always use the franchise tag if he turns it around. Yeah I knew we had to trade for him, but since they declined the 5th year I thought they may be willing to let him go cheap. I'm shocked to hear that his 5th year would be $16 million. Bengals might be willing to trade him for something rather than lose him for nothing.

Guest -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/5/2020 9:43:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Trivia. Which Viking non-QB is the oldest ever to score a TD and how old was he? (Dustin Baker on Twitter) Jim Marshall 😂 I got it

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