Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/10/2020 9:30:41 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Pager Doesn't the NFL have salary bumps for players outside of the first round base on PT and performance? Did Cooks qualify for any of those? I think Elf did and ONeil. I think Cook, when healthy, is special. I absolutely trust Kubiak's offense without him and using Mattison/Boone/2021 draft pick. I'm also ok with a shorter (3 yrs), higher contract (11-13M) that has a bigger proportion of the contract as incentives (3-4M) and lower guarantees. Sure. Mattison, Boone, Samia, Udoh ... the offense is loaded with back-ups that just need to be handed starting positions to transform into key starters. What you ‘absolutely trust’ requires Dumbledore, not Kubiak. Interesting choice of verbiage, considering Spielman's comments about how the staff views some of the players. Kubiak has a long history of developing olines and getting big production out of RBs that weren't high draft pics (or drafted at all). It is pretty entertaining how offended you are by the suggestion we could have players develop and thrive under Kubiaks system. Also entertaining is the fact you omit the 2021 draft pick at RB and include oline players which weren't part of my original post. Sorry to disappoint but not offended at all. I find it interesting that some posters believe / have faith, etc. – maybe rightly, maybe wrongly, I don't claim to know – that we will be fine at our weakest position (G) by promoting last year's backups or that we will be fine by replacing arguably our best offensive skill player with his back-ups. What percentage of starters in the NFL were backups before becoming starters? Should we never think it's gonna work out? You should really talk to fans of the Patriots. They are replacing Brady with Hoyer/Stidham (back ups) and currently are the favorites (LV lines) to win their division. We are replacing Elf (terrible) and Kline (hurt/average). Funny how you went from a Harry Potter reference to "I don't claim to know". I don't know anything. IMO LB Wilson, TE Smith, CBs Hughes and Hill have all earned legitimate shots to compete for a starting position. IMO DE Odenigbo is the only backup that has earned the right to be penciled in as a starter (part of this is Griffith moving on [if he does]) although that may just mean he's first in a rotational role. He will have competition. Again, I like Mattison. IMO he's a solid starter on any team that doesn't have an upper echelon RB. He's a solid starter on any team that has an injured upper echelon RB. Therefore, he's an important piece of our offense. The question is not if he is ready to be a starter – he is – the question is, how much of a drop off do you get from Cook to Mattison. We have both stated our opinions. I myself have not seen enough of Samia or Udoh or Collins to think they are better than Elflein or Klein. The team didn't think so last year. We'll see. It's a well-known fact that debaters will often throw out Harry Potter references to disguise a lack of confidence in their point of view.
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