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TJSweens -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 9:05:25 AM)

That's what we call a low center of gravity. It doesn't hurt to have legs like tree trunks.




kevinemmer -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 9:52:44 AM)

Looks like a stud and a leader.
No complaints!




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 9:59:16 AM)

After reading what you all posted and checking out YouTube Rossi seems like a great pick and I predict better than Sanderson and Lundell.

This YouTuber loved him at 5 or later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEIKreQGshE

He was being mocked at 5 more often than not.




TJSweens -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 10:18:54 AM)

The draft resumes in about 15 minutes. The Wild have the 8th pick of the second round. They currently do not have a third round pick, which is too bad, given this is considered one of the deepest drafts in many, many years.




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 10:41:00 AM)

The Hockey Guy on YouTube declared Rossi the steal of the draft. He has a lot of followers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5dfXRyrT4
The Wild make their pick about the 1 hour:30 minute mark.

He doesn't think Rossi is NHL ready, but thinks he's close.




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 10:48:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

If you wonder how his small size will hold up in the NHL, here is Rossi going up against a 6'5" / 215 lb defenseman the Panthers took in the second round in 2018.

https://twitter.com/Michael79607679/status/1105045788600750080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1105502663712669703%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.silversevensens.com%2F2020%2F6%2F1%2F21276461%2F2020-nhl-draft-profile-marco-rossi-ottawa-senators-nhl-ohl

Very impressive.

Sweens Great Find. That put a big smile on my face. The leg strength it took to do that would make a professional power lifter proud.




TJSweens -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 10:54:51 AM)

First two guys off the board today are a smooth skating Swedish defenseman and a Finnish forward. Phew, glad they're gone before our pick.




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 10:59:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

First two guys off the board today are a smooth skating Swedish defenseman and a Finnish forward. Phew, glad they're gone before our pick.

[&:]
Believe it or not there is nothing wrong with being a smooth skater or from Finland.

Wild make a trade of Kunin for Bonino and the 37th pick. I'm not sure if we still have our own pick in the second. We also get pick 70 if I understand correctly.




Mr. Ed -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:02:08 AM)

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.




SoMnFan -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:02:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.


Oh fer gods sake Souhan


Really?




SoMnFan -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:03:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

First two guys off the board today are a smooth skating Swedish defenseman and a Finnish forward. Phew, glad they're gone before our pick.

Exact same thought

TAKE AWAY THE SCISSORS!!!!!!!




Mr. Ed -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:04:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.



Bill Guerin has to be ready to make a big move.

Doesn’t he?

Tuesday night, the Wild drafted polished center Marco Rossi. In a few months, we may find out whether Rossi is ready for the NHL, and in a few years, we may know whether the Wild chose wisely.

Will Wild fans have to wait that long for Guerin, the team’s GM, to unveil the endgame of his secret master plan?

So far, almost all of the moves Guerin has made this calendar year have one thing in common.

Not masterful management. Any or all of his decisions could turn out well, but we won’t know for a while.

Not immediate upgrades. As of today he lacks a No. 1 goalie and a No. 1 center, two rather important roles on an NHL team.

No, what Guerin’s moves have in common is that he has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.

Guerin is right when he says that the Wild hasn’t experienced enough playoff success to stand pat. He’s right to try to alter the roster. But during a sports era in which general managers love to talk about “culture,” Guerin has cut bait on a lot of quality humans.

Devan Dubnyk? Wonderful guy who had a terrible year while his wife was ill. Yes, you can make a hockey judgment that it’s time to find a new starting goalie, but then you have to prove you can find someone better.

Jason Zucker? He and his wife, Carly Aplin, dedicated themselves to charitable efforts. Zucker scored more than 22 goals in only one season, but he produced six in 15 games with Pittsburgh, and the Wild could use more players with his speed.

Eric Staal? A model leader and competitor and a proven winner.

Ryan Donato? Not as productive as the Wild hoped he would be, but a quality teammate.

You can add in Bruce Boudreau and Mikko Koivu as quality professionals, although it’s not uncommon for a new general manager to want his own head coach, and Koivu played past his expiration date.

Guerin signed defenseman Jonas Brodin, who is known for his quiet demeanor. So when Guerin uses the cap space he has cleared, presumably on a center, he’ll need to find a leader.

I’m not sure who qualifies, with the requisite combination of excellent play and take-charge personality, in the Wild locker room.

At least they got lucky in the draft. Rossi falling to the Wild was a nice surprise for the franchise. The team needs a playmaking center, even if he lacks height.

“Depends on how you define ‘size,’ ” Guerin said. “He’s 5-9½, and he’s almost as wide.’’

But the biggest move of the offseason is yet to come. We think?

Either Guerin has masterfully wheeled and dealt to set up a big acquisition, or he’s done what anybody could have done — making changes for the sake of making changes.

Guerin got the job last summer when the Wild fired Paul Fenton. He had his hands tied at the time, and spent most of his first season evaluating the Wild.

He was right not to like what he saw, but did the moves he made improve the team or its locker room?

As every sports columnist knows, it’s much easier to identify a problem than to fix it.

Anyone can light a match. Building a bonfire requires skill.

The Wild may have gotten lucky to have Rossi fall to No. 9. “They need a center,” Rossi said. “I’m a center. And I’m 100 percent ready.”

The first two statements are facts. The third is speculation that, if true, could alter the look of the franchise.

Can you imagine a future first line of Kevin Fiala, Kirill Kaprizov and Rossi, if Kaprizov and Rossi are as good as advertised?

Until Rossi proves himself, the Wild still seems to need a No. 1 center and a No. 1 goalie.

Those who know Guerin well trust him.

At the moment, trust is all Wild fans have to go on.




Mr. Ed -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:05:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.


Oh fer gods sake Souhan


Really?


Have at it.




Hats4Bats -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:05:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

The draft resumes in about 15 minutes. The Wild have the 8th pick of the second round. They currently do not have a third round pick, which is too bad, given this is considered one of the deepest drafts in many, many years.


Did we make a trade with Nashville? We now have 2 2nds and a 3rd on the NBCSports live draft tracker? Fingers crossed..

Round 2

32. Detroit Red Wings – William Wallinder, D, Modo (HockeyAllsvenskan)
33. Ottawa Senators – Roby Jarventie, LW, Koovee (Mestis)
34. San Jose Sharks
35. Los Angeles Kings
36. Anaheim Ducks
37. Minnesota Wild (from NSH via NJ)
38. Buffalo Sabres
39. Minnesota Wild
40. Winnipeg Jets
41. Carolina Hurricanes (from NYR)
42. Nashville Predators
43. Florida Panthers
44. Toronto Maple Leafs
45. Detroit Red Wings (from EDM)
46. Chicago Blackhawks (from PIT via VGK)
47. Montreal Canadiens
48. Montreal Canadiens (from CHI)
49. No selection (Originally Arizona Coyotes*)
50. Calgary Flames
51. Los Angeles Kings (from VAN)
52. Pittsburgh Penguins (from OTT via CBJ)
53. Carolina Hurricanes
54. Philadelphia Flyers
55. Detroit Red Wings (from WSH)
56. San Jose Sharks (from COL via WSH)
57. Montreal Canadiens (from STL)
58. Boston Bruins
59. Ottawa Senators (from NYI)
60. Los Angeles Kings (from VGK)
61. Ottawa Senators (from DAL via VGK)
62. Tampa Bay Lightning

*Coyotes forfeit pick No. 49 due to punishment for violating NHL pre-combine testing rules.
Round 3

63. Detroit Red Wings
64. Ottawa Senators
65. Detroit Red Wings (from SJ)
66. Los Angeles Kings
67. Anaheim Ducks
68. Vegas Golden Knights (from NJ)
69. Carolina Hurricanes (from BUF)
70. Minnesota Wild (from NSH)
71. Ottawa Senators (from WPG)
72. Calgary Flames (from NYR)
73. Nashville Predators
74. Florida Panthers
75. Colorado Avalanche (from TOR)
76. Edmonton Oilers++
77. Pittsburgh Penguins
78. Columbus Blue Jackets (from MTL)
79. Chicago Blackhawks
80. Calgary Flames (from WSH via ARI via COL)
81. Calgary Flames+++
82. Vancouver Canucks
83. Los Angeles Kings (from CBJ via OTT via TOR)
84. New Jersey Devils (from CAR)
85. Tampa Bay Lightning (from PHI via SJ)
86. St. Louis Blues (from WSH via MTL)
87. Florida Panthers (from COL)
88. St. Louis Blues
89. Boston Bruins
90. New York Islanders
91. Vegas Golden Knights
92. New York Rangers (from DAL)
93. Tampa Bay Lightning




Hats4Bats -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:08:52 AM)

Found it TRADE

The Nashville Predators have traded forward Nick Bonino and picks Nos. 37 and 70 in this year's draft to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for in this draft to the Wild for forward Luke Kunin and pick No. 101.




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:09:33 AM)

Falling prospect Gunler one pick away from the Wild if they want him.
Wonder if there's a gas mask bong YouTube or what?
Swede. Might be a smooth skater.




TJSweens -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:09:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.


Oh fer gods sake Souhan


Really?

World's ... worst ... sport ... columnist




TJSweens -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:11:22 AM)

Sounds like Rossi has actually bulked up during the long off season. His workouts are supposedly legendary.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/marco-rossi-got-bigger-stronger-faster-shocked/




Mr. Ed -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:11:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.


Oh fer gods sake Souhan


Really?

World's ... worst ... sport ... columnist



Traded good guys, good interviews

Talent? Mostly has been or never was. From what I read in here.




TJSweens -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:13:01 AM)

Russian center Marat Khusnutdinov at 37.




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:13:03 AM)

This YouTuber freaking over the Wild getting Rossi and having Gunler fall to us if we want him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_wZ5ueJvw




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:14:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Russian center Marat Khusnutdinov at 37.

You're getting the picks before me on a live stream.
My YouTuber loves Khusnutdinov also. Just liked Gunler more. Since he's not from Sweden or Finland Sweens should be happy. We have pick 39 still.




David Levine -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:15:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Souhan
Wild GM Bill Guerin cleans house without much payback
GM Bill Guerin's moves so far have in common: He has rid the Wild of some of their best people and personalities without receiving much in return.


Oh fer gods sake Souhan


Really?

World's ... worst ... sport ... columnist



Traded good guys, good interviews

Talent? Mostly has been or never was. From what I read in here.


When did Souhan turn into Sid?




Hats4Bats -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:16:35 AM)

The Predators traded forward Nick Bonino and two draft picks (37th and 70th) to the Wild for center Luke Kunin and the 101st overall pick Wednesday shortly after the second round of the NHL Draft began.

Bonino, 32, has one year and a $4.1 million cap hit remaining on his contract before he becomes an unrestricted free agent. The 11-year veteran had 47 goals and 48 assists in three seasons with the Predators and was part of one of the best matchup lines in the NHL last season with Rocco Grimaldi and Craig Smith.

Kunin, 22, had 15 goals and 16 assists in 63 games last season. He was chosen 15th overall by the Wild in the 2016 draft. He is a restricted free agent




kgdabom -> RE: 2020 Wild Post Mortem Offseason & Draft (10/7/2020 11:17:38 AM)

We have a second shot at Gunler who everybody had as a first round pick.




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