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bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/21/2020 5:06:56 PM)

Mike Pence believes that gay conversion therapy is necessary and viable. This is enough to show both his bigotry and his faulty application of intelligence (he probably is a measurably intelligent person, he just overlays his politics and religion over his expression so he comes off as an idiot).




Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/21/2020 6:10:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

The thing is Biden has no real tax plan that works with how it is presented. He has no real plan. So what are economists backing?

Pence asked Harris in the debate three times if they would just change the system to get their way. Three times she said she would answer the direct question and three times she totally avoided it. She even offered to answer it but then did anything but.

Like I said I have some issues with Trump also.

Biden is a puppet who is being led in whatever direction the lunatics are taking him. He's never done anything productive up to this point.
Trump is a loud mouth and doesn't give a crap if you don't like hearing something and has no interest in selling a feel good story.

If anyone is defending either of these two whichever side your on your in for disappointment.

I will say however I do like Mike Pence. Take away the fly distraction and it was obvious his intelligence is so far beyond Harris it was laughable.

Biden has no tax plan that works? As apposed to what? The tax plan that Trump has implemented that doesn't work?

You are aware that the national debt has increased by over $8-trillion under Trump, right? It's increased to its highest level ever and is increasing at the fastest pace ever.

So much for having a great businessman in office.




Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/21/2020 6:25:05 PM)

Texas has officially taken over the lead with the most cases in the country. A positive test rate of 10.8%.

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Phil Riewer -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 10:30:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

The thing is Biden has no real tax plan that works with how it is presented. He has no real plan. So what are economists backing?

Pence asked Harris in the debate three times if they would just change the system to get their way. Three times she said she would answer the direct question and three times she totally avoided it. She even offered to answer it but then did anything but.

Like I said I have some issues with Trump also.

Biden is a puppet who is being led in whatever direction the lunatics are taking him. He's never done anything productive up to this point.
Trump is a loud mouth and doesn't give a crap if you don't like hearing something and has no interest in selling a feel good story.

If anyone is defending either of these two whichever side your on your in for disappointment.

I will say however I do like Mike Pence. Take away the fly distraction and it was obvious his intelligence is so far beyond Harris it was laughable.

Biden has no tax plan that works? As apposed to what? The tax plan that Trump has implemented that doesn't work?

You are aware that the national debt has increased by over $8-trillion under Trump, right? It's increased to its highest level ever and is increasing at the fastest pace ever.

So much for having a great businessman in office.


So what about the stimulus package the Democrats want to pass? What about the ACA payments Obama left that has made insurance companies, middle men, and providers rich? If I remember correctly the House and the Senate have passed these budgets.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 11:04:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

The thing is Biden has no real tax plan that works with how it is presented. He has no real plan. So what are economists backing?

Pence asked Harris in the debate three times if they would just change the system to get their way. Three times she said she would answer the direct question and three times she totally avoided it. She even offered to answer it but then did anything but.

Like I said I have some issues with Trump also.

Biden is a puppet who is being led in whatever direction the lunatics are taking him. He's never done anything productive up to this point.
Trump is a loud mouth and doesn't give a crap if you don't like hearing something and has no interest in selling a feel good story.

If anyone is defending either of these two whichever side your on your in for disappointment.

I will say however I do like Mike Pence. Take away the fly distraction and it was obvious his intelligence is so far beyond Harris it was laughable.

Biden has no tax plan that works? As apposed to what? The tax plan that Trump has implemented that doesn't work?

You are aware that the national debt has increased by over $8-trillion under Trump, right? It's increased to its highest level ever and is increasing at the fastest pace ever.

So much for having a great businessman in office.


So what about the stimulus package the Democrats want to pass? What about the ACA payments Obama left that has made insurance companies, middle men, and providers rich? If I remember correctly the House and the Senate have passed these budgets.


Not without the President's signature and approval. It is Trump's agenda.

The Republicans want to put the deficit and debt on the Democrats shoulders. Well, when they are in control the deficit rises and thus so does the debt. The LAST President to get the deficit into surplus was Clinton. Republicans seem to want to spend more but tax less. Start two wars....cut taxes....record deficits....cut taxes....skyrocketing debt....cut taxes....

I don't like the idea of paying more taxes but in the end that is what truly must happen to get the debt and deficit under control. I get it sometimes we have to spend in deficit. But There should be some serious balance to that.

I still say roll back all tax cuts given since 1980. We will see the deficit and debt disappear. They could pay back the money they stole for the SS fund and keep that solvent for decades. Then get spending in line with that level of income.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 11:54:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

The thing is Biden has no real tax plan that works with how it is presented. He has no real plan. So what are economists backing?

Pence asked Harris in the debate three times if they would just change the system to get their way. Three times she said she would answer the direct question and three times she totally avoided it. She even offered to answer it but then did anything but.

Like I said I have some issues with Trump also.

Biden is a puppet who is being led in whatever direction the lunatics are taking him. He's never done anything productive up to this point.
Trump is a loud mouth and doesn't give a crap if you don't like hearing something and has no interest in selling a feel good story.

If anyone is defending either of these two whichever side your on your in for disappointment.

I will say however I do like Mike Pence. Take away the fly distraction and it was obvious his intelligence is so far beyond Harris it was laughable.

Biden has no tax plan that works? As apposed to what? The tax plan that Trump has implemented that doesn't work?

You are aware that the national debt has increased by over $8-trillion under Trump, right? It's increased to its highest level ever and is increasing at the fastest pace ever.

So much for having a great businessman in office.


So what about the stimulus package the Democrats want to pass? What about the ACA payments Obama left that has made insurance companies, middle men, and providers rich? If I remember correctly the House and the Senate have passed these budgets.


Not without the President's signature and approval. It is Trump's agenda.

The Republicans want to put the deficit and debt on the Democrats shoulders. Well, when they are in control the deficit rises and thus so does the debt. The LAST President to get the deficit into surplus was Clinton. Republicans seem to want to spend more but tax less. Start two wars....cut taxes....record deficits....cut taxes....skyrocketing debt....cut taxes....

I don't like the idea of paying more taxes but in the end that is what truly must happen to get the debt and deficit under control. I get it sometimes we have to spend in deficit. But There should be some serious balance to that.

I still say roll back all tax cuts given since 1980. We will see the deficit and debt disappear. They could pay back the money they stole for the SS fund and keep that solvent for decades. Then get spending in line with that level of income.

I would love to see DEMs put a 70% tax on income over 10M and a 2% wealth tax on Net Worth. Superstar athletes would become GOPers instantly.




David Levine -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:00:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

The thing is Biden has no real tax plan that works with how it is presented. He has no real plan. So what are economists backing?

Pence asked Harris in the debate three times if they would just change the system to get their way. Three times she said she would answer the direct question and three times she totally avoided it. She even offered to answer it but then did anything but.

Like I said I have some issues with Trump also.

Biden is a puppet who is being led in whatever direction the lunatics are taking him. He's never done anything productive up to this point.
Trump is a loud mouth and doesn't give a crap if you don't like hearing something and has no interest in selling a feel good story.

If anyone is defending either of these two whichever side your on your in for disappointment.

I will say however I do like Mike Pence. Take away the fly distraction and it was obvious his intelligence is so far beyond Harris it was laughable.

Biden has no tax plan that works? As apposed to what? The tax plan that Trump has implemented that doesn't work?

You are aware that the national debt has increased by over $8-trillion under Trump, right? It's increased to its highest level ever and is increasing at the fastest pace ever.

So much for having a great businessman in office.


So what about the stimulus package the Democrats want to pass? What about the ACA payments Obama left that has made insurance companies, middle men, and providers rich? If I remember correctly the House and the Senate have passed these budgets.


Not without the President's signature and approval. It is Trump's agenda.

The Republicans want to put the deficit and debt on the Democrats shoulders. Well, when they are in control the deficit rises and thus so does the debt. The LAST President to get the deficit into surplus was Clinton. Republicans seem to want to spend more but tax less. Start two wars....cut taxes....record deficits....cut taxes....skyrocketing debt....cut taxes....

I don't like the idea of paying more taxes but in the end that is what truly must happen to get the debt and deficit under control. I get it sometimes we have to spend in deficit. But There should be some serious balance to that.

I still say roll back all tax cuts given since 1980. We will see the deficit and debt disappear. They could pay back the money they stole for the SS fund and keep that solvent for decades. Then get spending in line with that level of income.

I would love to see DEMs put a 70% tax on income over 10M and a 2% wealth tax on Net Worth. Superstar athletes would become GOPers instantly.


What would that affect?

I mean the number of superstar athletes is a whole lot less than people making under 10M.




David F. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:00:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

The thing is Biden has no real tax plan that works with how it is presented. He has no real plan. So what are economists backing?

Pence asked Harris in the debate three times if they would just change the system to get their way. Three times she said she would answer the direct question and three times she totally avoided it. She even offered to answer it but then did anything but.

Like I said I have some issues with Trump also.

Biden is a puppet who is being led in whatever direction the lunatics are taking him. He's never done anything productive up to this point.
Trump is a loud mouth and doesn't give a crap if you don't like hearing something and has no interest in selling a feel good story.

If anyone is defending either of these two whichever side your on your in for disappointment.

I will say however I do like Mike Pence. Take away the fly distraction and it was obvious his intelligence is so far beyond Harris it was laughable.

Biden has no tax plan that works? As apposed to what? The tax plan that Trump has implemented that doesn't work?

You are aware that the national debt has increased by over $8-trillion under Trump, right? It's increased to its highest level ever and is increasing at the fastest pace ever.

So much for having a great businessman in office.


So what about the stimulus package the Democrats want to pass? What about the ACA payments Obama left that has made insurance companies, middle men, and providers rich? If I remember correctly the House and the Senate have passed these budgets.


Not without the President's signature and approval. It is Trump's agenda.

The Republicans want to put the deficit and debt on the Democrats shoulders. Well, when they are in control the deficit rises and thus so does the debt. The LAST President to get the deficit into surplus was Clinton. Republicans seem to want to spend more but tax less. Start two wars....cut taxes....record deficits....cut taxes....skyrocketing debt....cut taxes....

I don't like the idea of paying more taxes but in the end that is what truly must happen to get the debt and deficit under control. I get it sometimes we have to spend in deficit. But There should be some serious balance to that.

I still say roll back all tax cuts given since 1980. We will see the deficit and debt disappear. They could pay back the money they stole for the SS fund and keep that solvent for decades. Then get spending in line with that level of income.

I would love to see DEMs put a 70% tax on income over 10M and a 2% wealth tax on Net Worth. Superstar athletes would become GOPers instantly.


You don't have to convince me. Let's do it!




David F. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:05:12 PM)

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:22:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

LeBron probably wants to be an owner. He would claim unfairness if you ended up taking 75% of what he earned away from him.




Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:24:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

If Warren Buffett thinks it is a good idea, it must be.

Buffett says (paraphrasing) that if you give a guy an opportunity to make $10-million on a deal, he isn't going to not do it because he has to pay more in taxes. He's going to do it every time because he knows the United States is one of the only places he can make that kind of money.




Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:28:42 PM)

Every one in 21.75 people in North Dakota either have COVID or have had COVID. Just to put things into perspective. They have a positivity rate of just over 12.6%.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:31:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

If Warren Buffett thinks it is a good idea, it must be.

Buffett says (paraphrasing) that if you give a guy an opportunity to make $10-million on a deal, he isn't going to not do it because he has to pay more in taxes. He's going to do it every time because he knows the United States is one of the only places he can make that kind of money.

It would an exodus of epic proportions.

Zuckerberg, Twitter guy, Bezos, Google guy, Hollywood elites would all move and live in Todd's country.




Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:32:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

If Warren Buffett thinks it is a good idea, it must be.

Buffett says (paraphrasing) that if you give a guy an opportunity to make $10-million on a deal, he isn't going to not do it because he has to pay more in taxes. He's going to do it every time because he knows the United States is one of the only places he can make that kind of money.

It would an exodus of epic proportions.

Zuckerberg, Twitter guy, Bezos, Google guy, Hollywood elites would all move and live in Todd's country.

You don't know that.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:37:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Every one in 21.75 people in North Dakota either have COVID or have had COVID. Just to put things into perspective. They have a positivity rate of just over 12.6%.

If you go to UND or NDSU, you can get paid for taking a Covid test. You also get entered into a lottery for scholarships.

That doesn't have anything to do with the positivity rate but it makes you wonder what the reasoning is.




David F. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:40:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

LeBron probably wants to be an owner. He would claim unfairness if you ended up taking 75% of what he earned away from him.


You want to tax 75% of every earned dollar starting at $1.00? Oh sorry I'm not down with that.




David F. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:41:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Every one in 21.75 people in North Dakota either have COVID or have had COVID. Just to put things into perspective. They have a positivity rate of just over 12.6%.

If you go to UND or NDSU, you can get paid for taking a Covid test. You also get entered into a lottery for scholarships.

That doesn't have anything to do with the positivity rate but it makes you wonder what the reasoning is.


That they want to know what the pandemic is doing to their students so they can make informed decisions on what parts of the campus are open or closed?




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:41:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

If Warren Buffett thinks it is a good idea, it must be.

Buffett says (paraphrasing) that if you give a guy an opportunity to make $10-million on a deal, he isn't going to not do it because he has to pay more in taxes. He's going to do it every time because he knows the United States is one of the only places he can make that kind of money.

It would an exodus of epic proportions.

Zuckerberg, Twitter guy, Bezos, Google guy, Hollywood elites would all move and live in Todd's country.

You don't know that.

Take 75% of somebody's earnings(no loopholes) and I know what I would do.

Great step towards Socialism but not good news for a country as a whole.

Imagine telling Danielle Hunter he can only make the same amount as Yarlborough. Great for Yarlborough but I doubt Hunter keeps working as hard as he had in the past.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:45:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

LeBron probably wants to be an owner. He would claim unfairness if you ended up taking 75% of what he earned away from him.


You want to tax 75% of every earned dollar starting at $1.00? Oh sorry I'm not down with that.

Missed what I was saying.

LBJ 100M yearly income
LBJ 500M Net worth

1st 10M: Probably 3-4m in taxes
Rest of income, 90M: 63M in taxes
Net Worth Tax: 10M




David F. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:45:56 PM)

Mark you seem to think people are only motivated by money. I imagine you're correct to an extent.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:47:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Every one in 21.75 people in North Dakota either have COVID or have had COVID. Just to put things into perspective. They have a positivity rate of just over 12.6%.

If you go to UND or NDSU, you can get paid for taking a Covid test. You also get entered into a lottery for scholarships.

That doesn't have anything to do with the positivity rate but it makes you wonder what the reasoning is.


That they want to know what the pandemic is doing to their students so they can make informed decisions on what parts of the campus are open or closed?

Maybe. But most students are doing it for the gift.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 12:53:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Mark you seem to think people are only motivated by money. I imagine you're correct to an extent.

Do I think that LBJ is motivated to become an Owner so he can make more money? No. I think he wants to show that African Americans can and should have a chance at being an Owner.




David F. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 1:22:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Mark you seem to think people are only motivated by money. I imagine you're correct to an extent.

Do I think that LBJ is motivated to become an Owner so he can make more money? No. I think he wants to show that African Americans can and should have a chance at being an Owner.


As noble as that is I can't endorse organizing our tax structure so a person with millions, earning more millions every year, not getting taxed enough to make our society run correctly just so he can achieve a benchmark that will involve even more millions of profits. Lebron might have to take one for the team here and god forbid not become an owner of an NBA franchise. Oh the humanity.




David Levine -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 1:41:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

LeBron probably wants to be an owner. He would claim unfairness if you ended up taking 75% of what he earned away from him.


So we should base our tax laws around LeBron?

I mean he's a really good player...but...




Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (10/22/2020 1:56:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Here's a promise I'll make. The day I make over $10,000,000.00 in one year I'll pay 100% tax (or charity) on every last dollar I make over the $10,000,000.00. I just won the game of life my friends!!! It's baffling to me that there's a human being out there anywhere that could even think for a second that there was some sort of unfairness in a system like this.

LeBron probably wants to be an owner. He would claim unfairness if you ended up taking 75% of what he earned away from him.


So we should base our tax laws around LeBron?

I mean he's a really good player...but...

I'm just saying that the Raptors can only employ so many players.

And Vancouver might get the Grizzlies back.




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