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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I don't know what the Vikings were worse at last year: interior offensive line (worst in NFL history and not even close), defensive tackle (worse than IOL!), or special teams. We used to do polls once upon a time here. Can we do a poll of that question" [:D]

Regardless, the team definitely needs to find a better option for return men and kicker too, of course.

The special teams last season were beyond bad. The lines were tied for second place in the bad column. The punt average alone would make the ST unit the worst on the team.

So all these different aspects of the team were so bad. Epically bad. Yet Kirk gets all of the blame.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I don't know what the Vikings were worse at last year: interior offensive line (worst in NFL history and not even close), defensive tackle (worse than IOL!), or special teams. We used to do polls once upon a time here. Can we do a poll of that question" [:D]

Regardless, the team definitely needs to find a better option for return men and kicker too, of course.

The special teams last season were beyond bad. The lines were tied for second place in the bad column. The punt average alone would make the ST unit the worst on the team.

So all these different aspects of the team were so bad. Epically bad. Yet Kirk gets all of the blame.

Hey Bruce,

I don't think anyone blames Kirk for last year.

imo: I just don't think he's good enough, considering what his % salary cap #, to win a Super Bowl, which is all I care about, with this team without the stars aligning a once in a millennia.

I think it's a huge mistake not to trade him, not because he's bad, he's above average, just not good enough.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

IMO, no reason to go after a No. 3 wide receiver. Irv Smith is going to be your No. 2 or No. 3 receiver next year. I'd be stunned if he didn't finish with 75+ receptions.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

IMO, no reason to go after a No. 3 wide receiver. Irv Smith is going to be your No. 2 or No. 3 receiver next year. I'd be stunned if he didn't finish with 75+ receptions.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

IMO, no reason to go after a No. 3 wide receiver. Irv Smith is going to be your No. 2 or No. 3 receiver next year. I'd be stunned if he didn't finish with 75+ receptions.

And fortunately no one will get hurt.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Barr and Kendricks are going to have a monster season if they can stay healthy. The Vikings still need to address their pass rush, though.

i think/hope we're still going after griffen...i could live with; hunter, wonnum, weatherly, willekes - griffen...and perhaps a new kid in this year's draft....

plus, if we could develop watts and lynch in the middle that would be very helpful....

i always considered rashod hill a good backup tackle, but i'm getting a feeling that this season spielman sees him as a starting guard....

I don't think he has ever played a snap for us at G. One would think he would have been used there considering how bad we were at G last season.

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

IMO, no reason to go after a No. 3 wide receiver. Irv Smith is going to be your No. 2 or No. 3 receiver next year. I'd be stunned if he didn't finish with 75+ receptions.

And fortunately no one will get hurt.

If we add at least one guard in FA, and one of the Bama receivers fall to us at #14 I could see us going the sexy pick route.
I know Bradley would love that.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

IMO, no reason to go after a No. 3 wide receiver. Irv Smith is going to be your No. 2 or No. 3 receiver next year. I'd be stunned if he didn't finish with 75+ receptions.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Former Cowboys' QB Andy Dalton is signing a one-year, $10 million deal, with the chance to earn another $3 million in incentives, with the Chicago Bears, per sources.

Will Ragatz@WillRagatz
The #Vikings get four games against Andy Dalton and Jared Goff this season.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I like the Tomlinson signing but it sure gives the first day or two of this offseason the same flavor as last offseason. (Well, except for the Diggs trade and WR hole)

(Last offseason March moves in parenthesis)

Re-sign Hill (Hill)

Sign solid IDL Tomlinson (Pierce)

Sign LB Vigil (Gates) ...

Let go of TE Rudy (Morgan)

We also re-signed Dozier and Abdullah last offseason. (I assume Boone and another Dozier type shortly)

Eerie.

Hopefully we are just getting started ... last offseason, that was it before the draft.

I am more excited this year Tom. Weatherly Back (which you haven't included). Wonnum, Willekes, Brailford and a way younger defense...also the young CBs will have a year more of experience. I think we will be sitting better on that side of the ball already before the draft. Just need to figure out Safety.

Weatherly is a good catch, I spaced it.

2020 was 7-9. We had good offensive production and the defense is already better on paper, so there's reason to be hopeful.

However, Weatherly and the young players you mentioned do nothing for me in terms of improving on last year. It's possible but right now that is simply hopefulness ... the same as Samia and Udoh the year before, that people in here were touting.

G, DE, S clearly need attention. CB, WR could use some as well. The draft can answer two of those in the first 2 rounds, maybe the third rd if we're lucky.

There's still alot of work to do.

I think that after restructuring Thielen and Smith and after Stephen release a couple of those will fill......I see Ant Harris/Keenan Cole and a OG. I am hoping more of Curtis Samuel then Keenan as the WR prices and safety prices are dropping.

IMO, no reason to go after a No. 3 wide receiver. Irv Smith is going to be your No. 2 or No. 3 receiver next year. I'd be stunned if he didn't finish with 75+ receptions.

I like Irv....don't know if he will get that many catches or what took sooooo long to utilize him.

You still need a good WR3 as no WR plays every down....

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I like the Tomlinson signing.

If we find another Griff or Hunter with one of 4 4ths...look out!

They seem to be able to develop DE easier than NT/DT. I really like what Wonnum and Brailford showed last year at DE...

Phil, I'm agreeing with you left and right!!! Add in Weatherly and I see no real pressure to draft at DE in the first this year unless he's special.

Harrison will be a 32 year old UFA next year. Not sure what to make of Harris. We need a SOTF.

G at 14? No.
S at 14? No. Harrison will be a 32 year old UFA next year. Not sure what to make of Harris. We need a SOTF.
3WR at 14? No.

Some things point to a trade down unless they love a DE.

Trade up for Slater

That could be the move.

Sign a solid OG and they can do whatever they want (maybe even draft a QB).

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

Interesting

NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors ·
1h Vikings Have Offer On Table To Bring Back CB Mackensie Alexander https://bit.ly/3cG6jE9

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Former Cowboys' QB Andy Dalton is signing a one-year, $10 million deal, with the chance to earn another $3 million in incentives, with the Chicago Bears, per sources.

Will Ragatz@WillRagatz
The #Vikings get four games against Andy Dalton and Jared Goff this season.

Andy Dalton kicked our ass last year.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

Interesting

NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors ·
1h Vikings Have Offer On Table To Bring Back CB Mackensie Alexander https://bit.ly/3cG6jE9

I like this - should solidify our CB room. Checks another box.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I don't know what the Vikings were worse at last year: interior offensive line (worst in NFL history and not even close), defensive tackle (worse than IOL!), or special teams. We used to do polls once upon a time here. Can we do a poll of that question" [:D]

Regardless, the team definitely needs to find a better option for return men and kicker too, of course.

The special teams last season were beyond bad. The lines were tied for second place in the bad column. The punt average alone would make the ST unit the worst on the team.

So all these different aspects of the team were so bad. Epically bad. Yet Kirk gets all of the blame.

Hey Bruce,

I don't think anyone blames Kirk for last year.

imo: I just don't think he's good enough, considering what his % salary cap #, to win a Super Bowl, which is all I care about, with this team without the stars aligning a once in a millennia.

I think it's a huge mistake not to trade him, not because he's bad, he's above average, just not good enough.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

Interesting

NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors ·
1h Vikings Have Offer On Table To Bring Back CB Mackensie Alexander https://bit.ly/3cG6jE9

I like this - should solidify our CB room. Checks another box.

Except I prefer a free agent corner who plays on the outside. I like Gladney at the nickel going forward.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Former Cowboys' QB Andy Dalton is signing a one-year, $10 million deal, with the chance to earn another $3 million in incentives, with the Chicago Bears, per sources.

Will Ragatz@WillRagatz
The #Vikings get four games against Andy Dalton and Jared Goff this season.

Andy Dalton kicked our ass last year.

What's your opinion on former USC CB Adoree Jackson? He came into league touted as a playmaker with speed to burn.

Titans cut him today.

27 PDs and 2 INTs in first 2 seasons. Not much of anything after that.

Take a one year flyer on the guy or just an over hyped guy?