quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

We'll be in a lot better shape after the draft. Possibly
grab a released vet FA later as well.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

He said the defense was "barren" and that they had to initially address that.

Seriously?

Getting Hunter, Pierce and Barr back was "barren"?

Does he have so little faith in his two 2nd year CBs that our "defense was "barren"'?

I swear if the guy needs 11 All-Pros and/or 1st round picks to maintain his "defensive guru" status, then the Emperor truly has no clothes.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

We'll be in a lot better shape after the draft. Possibly
grab a released vet FA later as well.

Yep.

I'm thinking Udoh in the mix also. Did virtual off season set him back last year? Maybe. But he still deserved a look when we were out of contention.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

We'll be in a lot better shape after the draft. Possibly
grab a released vet FA later as well.

Yep.

I'm thinking Udoh in the mix also. Did virtual off season set him back last year? Maybe. But he still deserved a look when we were out of contention.

Ref the bold, so he's not in the mix.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

We'll be in a lot better shape after the draft. Possibly
grab a released vet FA later as well.

Yep.

I'm thinking Udoh in the mix also. Did virtual off season set him back last year? Maybe. But he still deserved a look when we were out of contention.

Ref the bold, so he's not in the mix.

In the mix this year. My glass is half full.

For some reason, not last year. Maybe never playing Guard before and not getting an off season to work at it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

We'll be in a lot better shape after the draft. Possibly
grab a released vet FA later as well.

Yep.

I'm thinking Udoh in the mix also. Did virtual off season set him back last year? Maybe. But he still deserved a look when we were out of contention.

Ref the bold, so he's not in the mix.

In the mix this year. My glass is half full.

For some reason, not last year. Maybe never playing Guard before and not getting an off season to work at it.

In the mix this year to get fill in looks. Not significant unless its emergency.

Any expectation more tha that is glass spilling over.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

He said the defense was "barren" and that they had to initially address that.

Seriously?

Getting Hunter, Pierce and Barr back was "barren"?

Does he have so little faith in his two 2nd year CBs that our "defense was "barren"'?

I swear if the guy needs 11 All-Pros and/or 1st round picks to maintain his "defensive guru" status, then the Emperor truly has no clothes.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you look at the money spent on the roster:

Kirk 30
Kyle 4.4 Dead Cap
Reiff 3.2 Dead Cap
Bailey 2.1 Dead Cap
Thielen 6
Dalvin 5
Garrett 3.5
JJ 3
O'Neil 2.4
Hill 2.4
Cole 2.1
Irv 1.5
Ezra 1.2
Mattison 1
Dru 1
Conklin 1
Udoh 1

Hunter 17.8
Hendricks 12.5
Harry 10.3
Peterson 8
Barr 6.5
Dalvin 6
Pierce 5
Hughes 3
Weatherly 2.5
Gladney 2.5
Vigil 1.7
Dantzler 1
Alexander 1
Wonnum 1
Lynch 1
Watts 1
Stephen 1.3 Dead Cap

The problem is the contracts given to Stephen, Rudolph, and Bailey. Cutting Reiff will end up costing 3 million also but with the market full of Tackles I think we can replace him.....the problem is why was Stephen, Rudolph, and Bailey so overpaid for what they do? The dead cap just for Rudolph 3 this year and next could have bee used on the offense.....

Otherwise the cap is pretty evenly spent on the salaries for the Def Starters.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

An interesting name dropped by
@DWolfsonKSTP
in this Pod with
@PhilMackey
and
@jzulgad


Former Steelers Tackle Alejandro Villanueva

Mentions that Villanueva’s camp has reached out to the Vikings as have many other agents with Tackles still looking for jobs

(Matt Anderson on Twitter)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you look at the money spent on the roster:

Kirk 30
Kyle 4.4 Dead Cap
Reiff 3.2 Dead Cap
Bailey 2.1 Dead Cap
Thielen 6
Dalvin 5
Garrett 3.5
JJ 3
O'Neil 2.4
Hill 2.4
Cole 2.1
Irv 1.5
Ezra 1.2
Mattison 1
Dru 1
Conklin 1
Udoh 1

Hunter 17.8
Hendricks 12.5
Harry 10.3
Peterson 8
Barr 6.5
Dalvin 6
Pierce 5
Hughes 3
Weatherly 2.5
Gladney 2.5
Vigil 1.7
Dantzler 1
Alexander 1
Wonnum 1
Lynch 1
Watts 1
Stephen 1.3 Dead Cap

The problem is the contracts given to Stephen, Rudolph, and Bailey. Cutting Reiff will end up costing 3 million also but with the market full of Tackles I think we can replace him.....the problem is why was Stephen, Rudolph, and Bailey so overpaid for what they do? The dead cap just for Rudolph 3 this year and next could have bee used on the offense.....

Otherwise the cap is pretty evenly spent on the salaries for the Def Starters.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

An interesting name dropped by
@DWolfsonKSTP
in this Pod with
@PhilMackey
and
@jzulgad


Former Steelers Tackle Alejandro Villanueva

Mentions that Villanueva’s camp has reached out to the Vikings as have many other agents with Tackles still looking for jobs

(Matt Anderson on Twitter)

Aaaaaaaah haaaaaaaa we let the free agents come to us! They only think we need Olineman...
(In my best Inspector Clouseau voice)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

An interesting name dropped by
@DWolfsonKSTP
in this Pod with
@PhilMackey
and
@jzulgad


Former Steelers Tackle Alejandro Villanueva

Mentions that Villanueva’s camp has reached out to the Vikings as have many other agents with Tackles still looking for jobs

(Matt Anderson on Twitter)

Aaaaaaaah haaaaaaaa we let the free agents come to us! They only think we need Olineman...
(In my best Inspector Clouseau voice)

Which one. We talking Peter Sellers or Steve Martin? Personally I prefer Sellers, although either one would be an upgrade from Dakota Dozier. [sm=scratch.gif]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Why is this thread still open?! Archive it. Free agency is long gone. Create a new thread if you want titled "2021 Street Free Agents/Urchins".

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Udoh is the new Sloter [&:]

Except Udoh took on Mack and shut him down.

I have no idea if that translates to him being even a productive backup. But I sure as hell know what we've been running out there and what we've got at this moment. Just like Sloter>>>>>Mannion.


Also noteworthy is how well Udoh played guard in Senior Bowl practice and game. And:
https://relativeathleticscores.com/2020/01/13/olisaemeka-udoh-ras/

I couldn't even find Doziers or Mason Cole's RAS scores.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

Udoh is the new Sloter [&:]

Except Udoh took on Mack and shut him down.

I have no idea if that translates to him being even a productive backup. But I sure as hell know what we've been running out there and what we've got at this moment. Just like Sloter>>>>>Mannion.


Also noteworthy is how well Udoh played guard in Senior Bowl practice and game. And:
https://relativeathleticscores.com/2020/01/13/olisaemeka-udoh-ras/

I couldn't even find Doziers or Mason Cole's RAS scores.

I remember arguing with you in the draft thread last year when we passed on all the Gs in the 3rd-4th rd. because you said we had Samia and Udoh who 'held their own' against Mack and the Bears. And nobody at that point in the draft were going to beat them out.

Now its Udoh 'shut Mack down' (2 years ago) ... [&o] ... you mean the Mack with neck and back issues in the last useless game of a disappointing season (for the Bears)?

Samia also played well against the Bears that year ... not much of an indicator.

O'Neal is our only solid starter right now. Hill is a decent back-up. Cleveland may improve and Bradbury may vastly improve but, as of today, our OL situation is worse off than last year (without Reiff); and the IOL is still 'barren'.