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marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 3:44:46 PM)
Kirk just has a good arm, he should have been a pitcher.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 4:12:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . brandon scherff: scherff has told people close to him that the minnesota vikings are his preferred free agent team this offseason...grew up a vikings fan, he lives in Iowa, likes our facilities, and wants to work close to home.... Yes please! That would set 4/5ths of the line before we got to the draft.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 5:20:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . brandon scherff: scherff has told people close to him that the minnesota vikings are his preferred free agent team this offseason...grew up a vikings fan, he lives in Iowa, likes our facilities, and wants to work close to home.... LOL, an oft injured guard looking at a cap strapped team in a competitive market who scoffs at a continuation of a contract that keeps him the highest paid G in history! Brandon Scherff is finally set to hit the free-agent market, but the Pro Bowl guard hopes he doesn't leave Washington. "I'd love to be here, and I hope I can end my career here," Scherff told reporters Monday, via the Washington Football Wire. "I said that the last couple of times, and that's always the goal for me, is to kind of finish where you started." Scherff has been the recipient of the franchise tag for two straight years. A third tag would take his salary into QB money (north of $25 million), so that's highly, highly, highly, HIGHLY unlikely to happen. With five-time Pro Bowl guards rarely hitting the open market, Scherff should cash in with a massive long-term deal, which he's been unable to obtain from Washington. So while the 30-year-old has repeatedly said he hoped to remain in D.C., the reality is that Scherff is more likely to get his long-term money elsewhere since the Football Team couldn't get a deal done the past three years. "Fans should know we made every effort to get something done and we'll continue to work on that," Washington general manager Martin Mayhew said Tuesday, per ESPN.com. "We made an offer for him to be the highest paid offensive guard in the history of the NFL. We'll keep that dialogue to see where things go." With a boatload of teams needing offensive line upgrades, Scherff should have a robust market come March. The seven-year pro played just 11 games in 2021 and hasn't played a full-season slate since 2016. Scherff was already the highest-paid guard in per-year value, netting $18.036 million in 2021 on the franchise tag. He's in line to surpass Joe Thuney and Joel Bitonio, who are at $16 million per year on long-term deals. Thuney's $46.89 million guaranteed on his five-year, $80 million contract is most among guards.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 5:28:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . brandon scherff: scherff has told people close to him that the minnesota vikings are his preferred free agent team this offseason...grew up a vikings fan, he lives in Iowa, likes our facilities, and wants to work close to home.... Yes please! That would set 4/5ths of the line before we got to the draft. So if we are "SO in our SB window" as you recently said, what would this signing do? Propel us to being a hands-on perennial SB favorite in your opinion? Unabashed fandom without an iota of research.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 5:43:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J 1:23 clip (on Twitter) of Dan Barrio interviewing our coach I assume yesterday - posted 9 hrs ago. Yes, coach is getting giving himself room to wiggle but seems sincere in wanting to go with him next year, to me. Good stuff. https://twitter.com/Str8_Cash_Homey/status/1494914427765747713?s=20&t=VUt_GRNVukS920ZS7QBr7g We could go the route of extend him with voidable years, still draft a QB in Round 1. If he flourishes and we make a run, unvoid the years. If same old Kirk, void him and move on to young guys. Some dead cap involved then but Cap should be rising in coming years. I'm starting to think pass on QB in Round 1. Get Stingley, Gardner or McDuffie and try to shore up Secondary. Good stuff. I agree. I just think, despite the negative bias he creates, there's a lot of talent there. We're going to give Zimmer a shot but not this exQB a shot? - but he's probably made up his mind too on whether or not he can pull this off ... and ultimately I strongly believe this is O'Connell's choice on whether he stays or not, with Kwesi's blessing, of course - I also believe, as pointed out previously, they knew what he wanted to do during the interview process and they were all on board There is absolutely no reason for Cousins to renegotiate or extend unless its to his benefit, i.e., spreading out the 45M over another year or two into voidable years isn’t going to happen unless we throw a lot more guaranteed money at him. We are going to pay him 45M this year one way or another … if he stays. And then how much more to extend him into 2023 either as a resigning at market value or above or as a free agent at way above market value. Where does it end? I really don’t blame him … I can’t remember who but someone called him the GOAT of pro athlete contracts. All players and agents should try and emulate his situation. There’s a reason they are unable to … its uncomprimising to the health of the teams and the league. Whether you are biased for him or against him … as a player … the current money due is an extreme. He has more power over his situation than the team, he is going to decide what happens next contractually … and that contract situation is going to be a crippling drag on the overall cap situation to improve the team. If nothing else, 2022 has to be the low point of that leverage over the franchise. Irregardless of you wanting to blame Zimmer’s aura or every other circumstance for Cousins won loss record … we can no longer be at his mercy after 2022. We are not the Minnesota Cousins. KC the contract GOAT? Sure his resume has fancy hoopla like 1st time 100% guaranteed. But for sheer, sustained contract success over a career - factoring in value in today's dollars - look no further than Sam Bradford. Over-priced ... you are right, its hard to argue with Bradford. That's what arm talent at the position does ... keeps every team, coaching staff and fan base mesmerized, believing that we can convert that arm talent into wins. Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. No one can know how that would of turned out if it was allowed to play out. I don't think Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. I don't think signing Cousins was a poor decision in retrospect. I didn't think drafting Kalil was a poor decision in retrospect. I thought Ponder was a reach but I understood the reasoning/desperation ... and I was willing to see if they pulled one out of the hat. The problem has always been and ever will be realizing when to recognize your mistakes and cut your losses.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 6:12:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J 1:23 clip (on Twitter) of Dan Barrio interviewing our coach I assume yesterday - posted 9 hrs ago. Yes, coach is getting giving himself room to wiggle but seems sincere in wanting to go with him next year, to me. Good stuff. https://twitter.com/Str8_Cash_Homey/status/1494914427765747713?s=20&t=VUt_GRNVukS920ZS7QBr7g We could go the route of extend him with voidable years, still draft a QB in Round 1. If he flourishes and we make a run, unvoid the years. If same old Kirk, void him and move on to young guys. Some dead cap involved then but Cap should be rising in coming years. I'm starting to think pass on QB in Round 1. Get Stingley, Gardner or McDuffie and try to shore up Secondary. Good stuff. I agree. I just think, despite the negative bias he creates, there's a lot of talent there. We're going to give Zimmer a shot but not this exQB a shot? - but he's probably made up his mind too on whether or not he can pull this off ... and ultimately I strongly believe this is O'Connell's choice on whether he stays or not, with Kwesi's blessing, of course - I also believe, as pointed out previously, they knew what he wanted to do during the interview process and they were all on board There is absolutely no reason for Cousins to renegotiate or extend unless its to his benefit, i.e., spreading out the 45M over another year or two into voidable years isn’t going to happen unless we throw a lot more guaranteed money at him. We are going to pay him 45M this year one way or another … if he stays. And then how much more to extend him into 2023 either as a resigning at market value or above or as a free agent at way above market value. Where does it end? I really don’t blame him … I can’t remember who but someone called him the GOAT of pro athlete contracts. All players and agents should try and emulate his situation. There’s a reason they are unable to … its uncomprimising to the health of the teams and the league. Whether you are biased for him or against him … as a player … the current money due is an extreme. He has more power over his situation than the team, he is going to decide what happens next contractually … and that contract situation is going to be a crippling drag on the overall cap situation to improve the team. If nothing else, 2022 has to be the low point of that leverage over the franchise. Irregardless of you wanting to blame Zimmer’s aura or every other circumstance for Cousins won loss record … we can no longer be at his mercy after 2022. We are not the Minnesota Cousins. KC the contract GOAT? Sure his resume has fancy hoopla like 1st time 100% guaranteed. But for sheer, sustained contract success over a career - factoring in value in today's dollars - look no further than Sam Bradford. Over-priced ... you are right, its hard to argue with Bradford. That's what arm talent at the position does ... keeps every team, coaching staff and fan base mesmerized, believing that we can convert that arm talent into wins. Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. No one can know how that would of turned out if it was allowed to play out. I don't think Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. I don't think signing Cousins was a poor decision in retrospect. I didn't think drafting Kalil was a poor decision in retrospect. I thought Ponder was a reach but I understood the reasoning/desperation ... and I was willing to see if they pulled one out of the hat. The problem has always been and ever will be realizing when to recognize your mistakes and cut your losses. Speaking of mistakes and losses: 1. A ton of first round misses: Waynes (#11 overall, ugh) Treadmill (ugh) No pick (probably for the Bradford rental, ugh) Hughes (ugh) Bradbury (ugh) Jefferson (part of Diggs trade) Gladney (wasn't that good before he went criminal, ugh) Darrisaw (mixed but promising results) 2. Crazy contracts the team will be hamstrung with. These are two big reasons we are NOT in a SB window. But the kinder/gentler, here's why approach could be good for a couple of wins the first year.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 6:27:22 PM)
Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 8:05:36 PM)
We are so fukd

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/19/2022 9:59:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 8:43:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 9:23:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) What I saw from KA-M was, he said what he needed to but there was an intention to not upstage KO’C … you know what I mean? I did not see an ego-driven ‘look at my tall intellect’ narcissism. It might be there but I didn’t see it. I didn’t see anything … yes, I thought reading bullet points was less polished than I expected - I get Bill’s point. But with Bill, if the nail sticks out just a fraction sideways, its getting hammered down. Maybe KA-M has a runaway mouth like I do and he was curbing his innate desire to ramble. Who knows.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 9:44:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) What I saw from KA-M was, he said what he needed to but there was an intention to not upstage KO’C … you know what I mean? I did not see an ego-driven ‘look at my tall intellect’ narcissism. It might be there but I didn’t see it. I didn’t see anything … yes, I thought reading bullet points was less polished than I expected - I get Bill’s point. But with Bill, if the nail sticks out just a fraction sideways, its getting hammered down. Maybe KA-M has a runaway mouth like I do and he was curbing his innate desire to ramble. Who knows. Take away what you will, but I sprinkled in two good things about him [;)] Overall I am happy with the selection, it's just that yeah I thought he'd be more in command of the moment rather than sounding like a guy at the local high school gym. And who cares about Poles, especially with no link.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 2:04:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) What I saw from KA-M was, he said what he needed to but there was an intention to not upstage KO’C … you know what I mean? I did not see an ego-driven ‘look at my tall intellect’ narcissism. It might be there but I didn’t see it. I didn’t see anything … yes, I thought reading bullet points was less polished than I expected - I get Bill’s point. But with Bill, if the nail sticks out just a fraction sideways, its getting hammered down. Maybe KA-M has a runaway mouth like I do and he was curbing his innate desire to ramble. Who knows. Take away what you will, but I sprinkled in two good things about him [;)] Overall I am happy with the selection, it's just that yeah I thought he'd be more in command of the moment rather than sounding like a guy at the local high school gym. And who cares about Poles, especially with no link**. ha ha, I copied it but didn't paste it ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsXPztVXEmI

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 2:14:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds...

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 2:18:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds... Oh my F buddha! 1h 28 min 07 seconds ;)

Zoilo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 2:28:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J We are so fukd Relax

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 2:30:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zoilo quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J We are so fukd Relax huh? it was a joke - a bad one but a joke none the less

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 4:03:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jbusse quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: jbusse quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M We're SO in a SB window it's not funny. The defense is awful. Can they improve it to middle of the pack in short order? A team with the right chemistry can overcome some of that. We have an anchor at every level (potentially) some young guys and done new blood to draw off of coming. I think our culture we're about to build is exactly what we've been missing. The potential seems so limited. As an example, in 2015 we had the following: Everson Griffen, 27 Linval Joseph, 27 Sharrif Floyd, 24 Danielle Hunter, 21 Anthony Barr, 23 Eric Kendricks, 23 Anthony Harris, 24 Xavier Rhodes, 25 Trae Waynes, 23 Harrison Smith, 26 vikings free agents in 2022.... Mackensie Alexander (CB) Anthony Barr (LB) Chad Beebe (WR) Jordan Perry (P) Mason Cole (OL) Tyler Conklin (TE) Everson Griffen (DE) Chris Herndon (TE) Rashod Hill (LT) Greg Joseph (K) Patrick Peterson (CB) Sheldon Richard (DT) Nick Vigil (LB) Dede Westbrook (WR) Xavier Woods (S)

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 5:08:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds... Oh my F buddha! 1h 28 min 07 seconds ;) You must have ate your Wheaties today, you're full of F-bombs!

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 5:14:21 PM)
Dead Money & Cap Savings Regular Per Game Kirk Cousins $35,000,000 $10,000,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $35,000,000 $45,000,000 $45,000,000 $0 Danielle Hunter $1,400,000 $6,120,000 $18,000,000 $500,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $26,120,000 $11,480,000 $14,640,000 Adam Thielen $12,045,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $16,945,000 $11,100,000 $5,845,000 Eric Kendricks $9,150,000 $4,030,000 $0 $250,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $13,530,000 $5,960,000 $7,570,000 Harrison Smith $2,950,000 $1,915,882 $8,000,000 $500,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $13,465,882 $7,663,530 $5,802,352 Dalvin Cook $8,300,000 $3,101,272 $0 $500,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $12,001,272 $9,303,817 $2,697,455 Michael Pierce $7,900,000 $2,000,000 $0 $500,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $10,500,000 $4,000,000 $6,500,000 Anthony Barr $0 $4,945,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $9,890,000 $9,890,000 $0 Brian O'Neill $4,400,000 $4,315,223 $0 $500,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $9,315,223 $17,260,895 ($7,945,672) Dalvin Tomlinson $4,900,000 $2,500,000 $0 $0 $100,000 $0 $0 $7,500,000 $10,000,000 ($2,500,000) Garrett Bradbury $2,251,755 $1,847,340 $0 $0 $0 $0 $2,251,755 $4,099,095 $4,099,095 $0 Justin Jefferson $1,802,982 $1,775,965 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,802,982 $3,578,947 $7,754,385 ($4,175,438) C.J. Ham $2,600,000 $750,000 $0 $0 $100,000 $0 $0 $3,450,000 $1,500,000 $1,950,000 Christian Darrisaw $1,266,643 $1,766,572 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,266,643 $3,033,215 $10,919,574 ($7,886,359) Armon Watts $2,540,000 $42,274 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $2,582,274 $42,274 $2,540,000 Irv Smith Jr. $1,285,698 $559,260 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,844,960 $559,260 $1,285,700 Ezra Cleveland $1,113,384 $396,766 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,510,150 $793,532 $716,618 Cameron Dantzler $1,007,719 $223,750 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,231,469 $447,500 $783,969 Kellen Mond $897,428 $289,711 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,187,139 $869,133 $318,006 Alexander Mattison $965,000 $205,543 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,170,545 $205,543 $965,002 Chazz Surratt $887,959 $251,835 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,139,794 $755,505 $384,289 Wyatt Davis $882,013 $228,053 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,110,066 $684,159 $425,907 Patrick Jones II $881,368 $225,472 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,106,840 $676,416 $430,424 D.J. Wonnum $895,000 $187,695 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,082,695 $375,390 $707,305 James Lynch $895,000 $172,748 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,067,748 $345,496 $722,252 Troy Dye $895,000 $169,643 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,064,643 $339,286 $725,357 Andrew DePaola $1,035,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,035,000 $0 $1,035,000 Kene Nwangwu $825,000 $188,199 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,013,199 $564,597 $448,602 Olisaemeka Udoh $965,000 $41,900 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,006,900 $41,900 $965,000 Camryn Bynum $825,000 $179,453 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $1,004,453 $538,359 $466,094 Kris Boyd $965,000 $27,419 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $992,419 $27,419 $965,000 Harrison Hand $895,000 $74,696 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $969,696 $149,392 $820,304 Ryan Connelly $965,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $965,000 $0 $965,000 K.J. Osborn $895,000 $66,943 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $961,943 $133,886 $828,057 Olabisi Johnson $895,000 $18,644 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $913,644 $18,644 $895,000 Ihmir Smith-Marsette $825,000 $79,740 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $904,740 $239,220 $665,520 Ben Ellefson $895,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $895,000 $0 $895,000 Josh Metellus $895,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $895,000 $0 $895,000 Dan Chisena $895,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $895,000 $0 $895,000 Parry Nickerson $1,035,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $895,000 $0 $895,000 Blake Lynch $895,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $895,000 $0 $895,000 Janarius Robinson $705,000 $166,350 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $871,350 $499,050 $372,300 Kenny Willekes $825,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $825,000 $0 $825,000 Myles Dorn $825,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $825,000 $0 $825,000 Trishton Jackson $825,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $825,000 $0 $825,000 Zach Davidson $825,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $825,000 $0 $825,000 Timon Parris $825,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $825,000 $0 $825,000 Blake Brandel $825,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $825,000 $0 $825,000 Jaylen Twyman $705,000 $43,735 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $748,735 $131,205 $617,530 Blake Proehl $705,000 $5,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $710,000 $10,000 $700,000 Asim Rose $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 Top 51 Cutoff Myron Mitchell $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 Tuf Borland $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 T.J. Smith $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 Kyle Hinton $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 Nate Stanley $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 Jordon Scott $705,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $705,000 $0 $705,000 Dead Money Name Cap Number Kyle Rudolph $2,900,000 Jeff Gladney $2,776,738 Sheldon Richardson $1,283,334 Britton Colquitt $716,668 Zach Davidson $226,329 Dru Samia $184,985 TOTAL $8,204,562

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 5:23:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. *Right out of the gate KAM was reading* each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really?** He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make? He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read. So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner. Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position. I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC. Pure genius. Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;) I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds... Oh my F buddha! 1h 28 min 07 seconds ;) You must have ate your Wheaties today, you're full of F-bombs! Only one today (but I was winking when I said it) - the other was yesterday ... and I swear I didn't mean it

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 5:37:25 PM)
Richardson Conklin Peterson Are the only 3 I'd care to see back. Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of Willekies Hand Suratt Lynch Robinson Watts Bynum Dye Wonnum Jones II Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3.

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/20/2022 6:10:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Richardson Conklin Peterson Are the only 3 I'd care to see back. Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of Willekies Hand Suratt Lynch Robinson Watts Bynum Dye Wonnum Jones II Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3. I don't mind KAM reading off bullet points at press conferences as long as he has an eye (or an analytic) for talent in the draft and in free agency.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/21/2022 1:26:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Richardson Conklin Peterson Are the only 3 I'd care to see back. Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of Willekies Hand Suratt Lynch Robinson Watts Bynum Dye Wonnum Jones II Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3. I'm convinced that barr is coming back, now...watched 'locked on vikings' pod and he showed how bringing barr back could actually save us money in 2022.... i think we're strong in young edge rushers and only pick one early in draft if there's a monster there for us.... i think we need a big thumper linebacker in our 4-backer sets - our best defenses under zimmer had sendejo and gedeon in the mix....

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/21/2022 1:29:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Richardson Conklin Peterson Are the only 3 I'd care to see back. Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of Willekies Hand Suratt Lynch Robinson Watts Bynum Dye Wonnum Jones II Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3. i've always liked rhodes, and at this point he and peterson are about the same - he could be a good value free agent....

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