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bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 7:21:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Our Twitter buddy Dustin baker is still cherry-picking stats like a mad man but now it appears he picks them not from the ultra-positive perspective.

Before today, teams with a +2 Turnover differential, a Kickoff Return TD, and a 7-point lead at the start of the 4th Quarter were 110-4-1 (.961). Those teams won 96% of the time.

The Vikings loss to the Ravens makes those teams 110-5-1.


What's the winning percentage for teams that continually run into the horrid middle of their line in spite of the fact that it hasn't worked the whole game---the game being played, not 115 previous games throughout the history of the NFL---instead of passing (in spite of having two of the best WRs in the league) against a team that came into THIS game ranked last in passing yards against THIS season?

I bet it's not good, and all you had to do was look on the field to understand that.




Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 8:08:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

On top of the Vikings patheticness, now I have to like Aaron Rodgers for his stance ripping on "WOKE and cancel culture" society. [&:][X(]

You would…


His asking the ref for a horse collar penalty as he was being dragged down my the number on the back of his jersey last week cracked me up - and I'm sure you noticed they called that a penalty this week on the Vikings on a 4th down stop.

And I'm all about ripping the WOKE and cancel culture, so ... I guess maybe I can see where Todd's coming from, Dan

You mean like the woke and cancel culture that exists when a Vikings player Fuq sup?
You pick and choose your moments to be either/ or, for/ against..

Woke nowadays refers to being aware or well informed in a political or cultural sense, especially regarding issues surrounding marginalised communities - it describes someone who has “woken up” to issues of social injustice.

Antivaxxers and those of a certain persuasion are the icons of stupid.. the standard bearers.. the morons who undermine actual progress for the sake of me first attitudes.

So yea., I am “Woke.”

And happy to be that way,

as opposed to the apologists who are all about me…mine….my money… Butwhatabout asshats who live in the past and desire nothing but status Quo.
The list of those idiots is vast..

And they are idiots..

As Dumb as Zimmer is as a coach, he, at least, knows that getting a Vaccination is a team concept, not a me, my choice, Fuq u and your safety, concept.

Your martyr schtick is getting old Dan.

I pick and choose nothing for the sake seeking attention or being noticed.

Vaccinating never entered my mind when I wrote that text.

Rogers being tackled by the number area, begging for a penalty as he was going down, "cracked me up" and I had probably my first moment of seeing him as someone I might like - because the hater routine is the wrong route to go in life, imo.

Im not a fan of the woke and cancel culture. That's just the way it is.

I'm sure I got my shots before you did. I'm sure I'll get my booster before you, too.

Relax tough guy!




Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 9:58:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I forget who said in the here or the gameday thread but I freakin' hate Zimmer more than any other failure we've had. Not sure why. I've been off his wagon for about 5 years but these days he pisses me off more than Chilly. Too young to have an actual opinion on Burns. Felt bad for meathead and Frazier. Green was great until he wilted (didn't know much about his personal side at the time).

For me it's his arrogance. It's even worse than Chili. Arrogance and stubbornness



It's the stubbornness that is killing me.

Week after week it's the same thing. Over and over again. Nothing changes. They keep doing the same shit that they know does not work.

What do they say is the definition of insanity?




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 1:03:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

On top of the Vikings patheticness, now I have to like Aaron Rodgers for his stance ripping on "WOKE and cancel culture" society. [&:][X(]

You would…


His asking the ref for a horse collar penalty as he was being dragged down my the number on the back of his jersey last week cracked me up - and I'm sure you noticed they called that a penalty this week on the Vikings on a 4th down stop.

And I'm all about ripping the WOKE and cancel culture, so ... I guess maybe I can see where Todd's coming from, Dan

You mean like the woke and cancel culture that exists when a Vikings player Fuq sup?
You pick and choose your moments to be either/ or, for/ against..

Woke nowadays refers to being aware or well informed in a political or cultural sense, especially regarding issues surrounding marginalised communities - it describes someone who has “woken up” to issues of social injustice.

Antivaxxers and those of a certain persuasion are the icons of stupid.. the standard bearers.. the morons who undermine actual progress for the sake of me first attitudes.

So yea., I am “Woke.”

And happy to be that way,

as opposed to the apologists who are all about me…mine….my money… Butwhatabout asshats who live in the past and desire nothing but status Quo.
The list of those idiots is vast..

And they are idiots..

As Dumb as Zimmer is as a coach, he, at least, knows that getting a Vaccination is a team concept, not a me, my choice, Fuq u and your safety, concept.

Your martyr schtick is getting old Dan.

I pick and choose nothing for the sake seeking attention or being noticed.

Vaccinating never entered my mind when I wrote that text.

Rogers being tackled by the number area, begging for a penalty as he was going down, "cracked me up" and I had probably my first moment of seeing him as someone I might like - because the hater routine is the wrong route to go in life, imo.

Im not a fan of the woke and cancel culture. That's just the way it is.

I'm sure I got my shots before you did. I'm sure I'll get my booster before you, too.

Relax tough guy!

Tough guy?

For the record i got both my shots in aApril, my booster is Thursday, I got my yearly flu in October, as always.

If your not a fan of “woke”.. then you might just be.. a redneck..

Which is fine…

Be what you want to be, but don’t expect others to respect that.

Denying or “ not being a fan” of the realization that non white or non male, or non gender specific, people have to literally fight against the ignorance and prejudice of “ not a fan of woke”, segments, nay hordes, of social morons, shows a lack of critical thinking.

I don’t understand how someone can hold and defend a toxic point of belief, and at this point, I am past caring about people who want to make such selfish assumptions.

Rogers, as the ICON, and role model that he is, on the subject of COVID vaccination, is wrong.

He is just as stupid in thought and action as was a certain past leader, who got what he deserved, and I personally hope Rogers, gets a face to face with Karma.

But that won’t happen.

When Terry Bradshaw and Michael Strahan, call you out for lying…you, Mr Rogers, are a Fuqtard, and cancel culture is your reward.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 1:18:48 PM)

I know we have threads for this kind of discussion..

But when posters refuse to use them, and try to disguise their political pot shots as “ football”, then this is the only place available to refute that..

Yea it’s a distraction, but allowing unchallenged “opinion” to stand as gospel of fanaticism, is somehow worse.




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 1:23:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

On top of the Vikings patheticness, now I have to like Aaron Rodgers for his stance ripping on "WOKE and cancel culture" society. [&:][X(]

You would…


His asking the ref for a horse collar penalty as he was being dragged down my the number on the back of his jersey last week cracked me up - and I'm sure you noticed they called that a penalty this week on the Vikings on a 4th down stop.

And I'm all about ripping the WOKE and cancel culture, so ... I guess maybe I can see where Todd's coming from, Dan

You mean like the woke and cancel culture that exists when a Vikings player Fuq sup?
You pick and choose your moments to be either/ or, for/ against..

Woke nowadays refers to being aware or well informed in a political or cultural sense, especially regarding issues surrounding marginalised communities - it describes someone who has “woken up” to issues of social injustice.

Antivaxxers and those of a certain persuasion are the icons of stupid.. the standard bearers.. the morons who undermine actual progress for the sake of me first attitudes.

So yea., I am “Woke.”

And happy to be that way,

as opposed to the apologists who are all about me…mine….my money… Butwhatabout asshats who live in the past and desire nothing but status Quo.
The list of those idiots is vast..

And they are idiots..

As Dumb as Zimmer is as a coach, he, at least, knows that getting a Vaccination is a team concept, not a me, my choice, Fuq u and your safety, concept.

Your martyr schtick is getting old Dan.

I pick and choose nothing for the sake seeking attention or being noticed.

Vaccinating never entered my mind when I wrote that text.

Rogers being tackled by the number area, begging for a penalty as he was going down, "cracked me up" and I had probably my first moment of seeing him as someone I might like - because the hater routine is the wrong route to go in life, imo.

Im not a fan of the woke and cancel culture. That's just the way it is.

I'm sure I got my shots before you did. I'm sure I'll get my booster before you, too.

Relax tough guy!

Tough guy?

For the record i got both my shots in aApril, my booster is Thursday, I got my yearly flu in October, as always.

If your not a fan of “woke”.. then you might just be.. a redneck..

Which is fine…

Be what you want to be, but don’t expect others to respect that.

Denying or “ not being a fan” of the realization that non white or non male, or non gender specific, people have to literally fight against the ignorance and prejudice of “ not a fan of woke”, segments, nay hordes, of social morons, shows a lack of critical thinking.

I don’t understand how someone can hold and defend a toxic point of belief, and at this point, I am past caring about people who want to make such selfish assumptions.

Rogers, as the ICON, and role model that he is, on the subject of COVID vaccination, is wrong.

He is just as stupid in thought and action as was a certain past leader, who got what he deserved, and I personally hope Rogers, gets a face to face with Karma.

But that won’t happen.

When Terry Bradshaw and Michael Strahan, call you out for lying…you, Mr Rogers, are a Fuqtard, and cancel culture is your reward.

So then then, you're a big fan of governmental overreach.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 1:46:02 PM)

Actually, what you.. call, government overreach, which you seem to have a one way view of…, is what I call protecting the majority from the idiocy of the idiocracy.

Tax breaks for rich?

Perfect.

Corporations are people?

Perfect.

Covid a hoax?

Perfect.

Right to choose healthcare, my body my choice, unless you are a woman..

Perfect.

In your world.

There seems to be only one acceptable form of government in your world.

Authoritarianism and money and profit Uber Alles, sieg hiel!( win all!)

The far right and right wing safety net:

Is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government. Aka… definition in simple terms, of fascism.

BLM protests?

Call out the national guard..

But fascists sore about losing a national election..

“ March down there and fight like hell”
Sieg hiel, mine Fuehrer !!




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 2:54:37 PM)

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Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
27 yard pass to CJ Ham on 3rd/3 and it's dead silent in here.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer said he did give thought to going for 2 on Minnesota’s final touchdown but opted to tie the game with a PAT (31-31) because “they have a heck of a kicker, still had over a minute left and 3 timeouts.”


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
This is a little confusing. The Ravens would have attempted a FG either way with the timeouts/clock they had at their disposal and Tucker’s ability to kick long field goals if it came down to that.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 3:20:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
27 yard pass to CJ Ham on 3rd/3 and it's dead silent in here.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer said he did give thought to going for 2 on Minnesota’s final touchdown but opted to tie the game with a PAT (31-31) because “they have a heck of a kicker, still had over a minute left and 3 timeouts.”


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
This is a little confusing. The Ravens would have attempted a FG either way with the timeouts/clock they had at their disposal and Tucker’s ability to kick long field goals if it came down to that.



IOW. His reasoning is stupid. The Ravens would have tried for a game winner in regulation no matter if we had the lead or not.

Truth is Zimmer got scared they would fail and he'd look bad.




Russell Timmons -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 4:20:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
27 yard pass to CJ Ham on 3rd/3 and it's dead silent in here.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer said he did give thought to going for 2 on Minnesota’s final touchdown but opted to tie the game with a PAT (31-31) because “they have a heck of a kicker, still had over a minute left and 3 timeouts.”


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
This is a little confusing. The Ravens would have attempted a FG either way with the timeouts/clock they had at their disposal and Tucker’s ability to kick long field goals if it came down to that.



IOW. His reasoning is stupid. The Ravens would have tried for a game winner in regulation no matter if we had the lead or not.

Truth is Zimmer got scared they would fail and he'd look bad.

Aannndd....he loses anyway.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 4:24:40 PM)

Man. That's right there with Tice adding 8 and 8 and coming up with 17 [:-]




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 4:34:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
27 yard pass to CJ Ham on 3rd/3 and it's dead silent in here.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer said he did give thought to going for 2 on Minnesota’s final touchdown but opted to tie the game with a PAT (31-31) because “they have a heck of a kicker, still had over a minute left and 3 timeouts.”


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
This is a little confusing. The Ravens would have attempted a FG either way with the timeouts/clock they had at their disposal and Tucker’s ability to kick long field goals if it came down to that.



IOW. His reasoning is stupid. The Ravens would have tried for a game winner in regulation no matter if we had the lead or not.

Truth is Zimmer got scared they would fail and he'd look bad.


Think it through like zimmer would. He thinks that if the game is tied the ravens will turtle up and play for overtime. He thinks If we have a one-point lead then, and only then, will they try for a game-winning field goal drive. I have no doubt that was how he thought it out.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 4:55:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
27 yard pass to CJ Ham on 3rd/3 and it's dead silent in here.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer said he did give thought to going for 2 on Minnesota’s final touchdown but opted to tie the game with a PAT (31-31) because “they have a heck of a kicker, still had over a minute left and 3 timeouts.”


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
This is a little confusing. The Ravens would have attempted a FG either way with the timeouts/clock they had at their disposal and Tucker’s ability to kick long field goals if it came down to that.



IOW. His reasoning is stupid. The Ravens would have tried for a game winner in regulation no matter if we had the lead or not.

Truth is Zimmer got scared they would fail and he'd look bad.


Think it through like zimmer would. He thinks that if the game is tied the ravens will turtle up and play for overtime. He thinks If we have a one-point lead then, and only then, will they try for a game-winning field goal drive. I have no doubt that was how he thought it out.


You beat me to it.

I think that's exactly how it went in his head.




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 5:20:56 PM)

So I know it’s only one game but Cam Bynum looks like a gem. I still believe in Harrison don’t get me wrong.




Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 5:34:58 PM)

Seemed like Mason Cole held up in pass pro.

Or at least he wasn't completely getting trucked like Bradbury was




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 5:55:00 PM)

When Udoh went down why didn't Davis replace him? Was he just inactive as I didn't see any injury related stuff.




Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 5:58:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

On top of the Vikings patheticness, now I have to like Aaron Rodgers for his stance ripping on "WOKE and cancel culture" society. [&:][X(]

You would…


His asking the ref for a horse collar penalty as he was being dragged down my the number on the back of his jersey last week cracked me up - and I'm sure you noticed they called that a penalty this week on the Vikings on a 4th down stop.

And I'm all about ripping the WOKE and cancel culture, so ... I guess maybe I can see where Todd's coming from, Dan

You mean like the woke and cancel culture that exists when a Vikings player Fuq sup?
You pick and choose your moments to be either/ or, for/ against..

Woke nowadays refers to being aware or well informed in a political or cultural sense, especially regarding issues surrounding marginalised communities - it describes someone who has “woken up” to issues of social injustice.

Antivaxxers and those of a certain persuasion are the icons of stupid.. the standard bearers.. the morons who undermine actual progress for the sake of me first attitudes.

So yea., I am “Woke.”

And happy to be that way,

as opposed to the apologists who are all about me…mine….my money… Butwhatabout asshats who live in the past and desire nothing but status Quo.
The list of those idiots is vast..

And they are idiots..

As Dumb as Zimmer is as a coach, he, at least, knows that getting a Vaccination is a team concept, not a me, my choice, Fuq u and your safety, concept.

Your martyr schtick is getting old Dan.

I pick and choose nothing for the sake seeking attention or being noticed.

Vaccinating never entered my mind when I wrote that text.

Rogers being tackled by the number area, begging for a penalty as he was going down, "cracked me up" and I had probably my first moment of seeing him as someone I might like - because the hater routine is the wrong route to go in life, imo.

Im not a fan of the woke and cancel culture. That's just the way it is.

I'm sure I got my shots before you did. I'm sure I'll get my booster before you, too.

Relax tough guy!

Tough guy?

For the record i got both my shots in aApril, my booster is Thursday, I got my yearly flu in October, as always.

If your not a fan of “woke”.. then you might just be.. a redneck..

Which is fine…

Be what you want to be, but don’t expect others to respect that.

Denying or “ not being a fan” of the realization that non white or non male, or non gender specific, people have to literally fight against the ignorance and prejudice of “ not a fan of woke”, segments, nay hordes, of social morons, shows a lack of critical thinking.

I don’t understand how someone can hold and defend a toxic point of belief, and at this point, I am past caring about people who want to make such selfish assumptions.

Rogers, as the ICON, and role model that he is, on the subject of COVID vaccination, is wrong.

He is just as stupid in thought and action as was a certain past leader, who got what he deserved, and I personally hope Rogers, gets a face to face with Karma.

But that won’t happen.

When Terry Bradshaw and Michael Strahan, call you out for lying…you, Mr Rogers, are a Fuqtard, and cancel culture is your reward.

yeah yeah yeah - maybe ill finish this later




jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 6:32:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

When Udoh went down why didn't Davis replace him? Was he just inactive as I didn't see any injury related stuff.

Zimmer addressed this at today's press conference. The topic begins at the 4:10 mark on the following video:

https://www.vikings.com/video/zimmer-talks-about-reasons-for-inconsistency-on-offense-bynum-s-debut-heavy-work




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 6:40:43 PM)

In reviewing the 3rd-and-9 play in OT many were lamenting the poor protection and the all-long-routes. Sage rosenfells offers:

The Vikings had enough blockers for this blitz. It would have required Cousins to change the protection and the line could have picked it up easily




Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 7:22:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
27 yard pass to CJ Ham on 3rd/3 and it's dead silent in here.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer said he did give thought to going for 2 on Minnesota’s final touchdown but opted to tie the game with a PAT (31-31) because “they have a heck of a kicker, still had over a minute left and 3 timeouts.”


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
This is a little confusing. The Ravens would have attempted a FG either way with the timeouts/clock they had at their disposal and Tucker’s ability to kick long field goals if it came down to that.



IOW. His reasoning is stupid. The Ravens would have tried for a game winner in regulation no matter if we had the lead or not.

Truth is Zimmer got scared they would fail and he'd look bad.


Think it through like zimmer would. He thinks that if the game is tied the ravens will turtle up and play for overtime. He thinks If we have a one-point lead then, and only then, will they try for a game-winning field goal drive. I have no doubt that was how he thought it out.

I think you're exactly right David.




marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 9:10:12 PM)

So the Vikings have the potential for a great OL, if they had a QB that might notice a blitz and change the protections, along with a QB that notices targets down the field more, instead of checking down so much.




marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 9:17:31 PM)

Where should Zimmer be ?

Not a great HC, and as a DC his defenses in Cincy sucked in the playoffs.

His 2ndaries in Dallas were good, but it helped to have Charles Haley, Leon Lett, Tony Tolbert, some very fast LBers, and a DC that wasn't afraid to blitz.

Would you trust him in charge of your 2ndary ?




marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 9:26:52 PM)

I now see Zimmer wasn't a 2ndary coach at Dallas, that was Campo, Zimmer was an assistant coach, whatever that meant.




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 9:36:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

When Udoh went down why didn't Davis replace him? Was he just inactive as I didn't see any injury related stuff.

Zimmer addressed this at today's press conference. The topic begins at the 4:10 mark on the following video:

https://www.vikings.com/video/zimmer-talks-about-reasons-for-inconsistency-on-offense-bynum-s-debut-heavy-work

Hopefully he's not Dru Samia 2




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/8/2021 10:13:09 PM)

Zimmer: well he’s a young guy…

FFS.. compared to you.. everyone is a young guy…




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