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Chris Olson -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (7/15/2022 12:12:12 PM)
I'd be disappointed with adding Rudy back into the mix here (as the rumors say signing him is not off the table)...seems like a waste of roster space... if we are adding an aging vet, I would rather see Suh signed But really, of all the FA moves that are being considered, I can't believe there isn't more push to find a new, true center not just a guard with the ability to play center as we have already done

Tom Sykes -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (7/15/2022 8:57:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty Exactly. While the Packers had a strong performance from their defense, the Bills defense was dreadful in their playoff loss, but it was facing a strong KC offense. The Bills strong regular season defense wasn't quite the same in the playoffs. Nice bob and weave. The only thing stopping the Bills is Leslie regardless of having a number one rated defense which can have a bad game in the playoffs against an exceptional offense, or a boatload of injuries. The only one landing punches in this ring is Marty or the other guy, Marty.

Bill Jandro -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (7/16/2022 7:54:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chris Olson I'd be disappointed with adding Rudy back into the mix here (as the rumors say signing him is not off the table)...seems like a waste of roster space... if we are adding an aging vet, I would rather see Suh signed But really, of all the FA moves that are being considered, I can't believe there isn't more push to find a new, true center not just a guard with the ability to play center as we have already done Not rostering a second C is stupid. Are they worried about hurting Bradbury's feelings? They already declined his 5th yr option so he certainly isn't a part of their long term plans. Thinking they can scheme around and hide Bradbury seems naive. Reed is my pick to win the RG spot. I don't want to even see Jesse "Dozier" Davis on the field.

Tom Sykes -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (7/16/2022 8:36:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Chris Olson I'd be disappointed with adding Rudy back into the mix here (as the rumors say signing him is not off the table)...seems like a waste of roster space... if we are adding an aging vet, I would rather see Suh signed But really, of all the FA moves that are being considered, I can't believe there isn't more push to find a new, true center not just a guard with the ability to play center as we have already done Not rostering a second C is stupid. Are they worried about hurting Bradbury's feelings? They already declined his 5th yr option so he certainly isn't a part of their long term plans. Thinking they can scheme around and hide Bradbury seems naive. Reed is my pick to win the RG spot. I don't want to even see Jesse "Dozier" Davis on the field. KOC failed the initial big ego test. Could Bradbury play better in a slightly different blocking scheme with different coaches and an extra 10 lbs? Sure but thats based on a belief in your own coaching ability with a little hope and luck mixed in. Its not adequate planning. You want your HC to be super-confident but for godsakes have a decent Plan B to your expectations of your own brilliance. I know this is a byproduct of watching Zimmer get cannibalized by his own ego the last few years … but I was hoping for a better approach than … I know what I’m doing so this is going to work. I am praying that rookie KOC is more than that.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (8/2/2022 12:36:10 PM)
Still would make sense to sign Tretter: https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/jc-tretter-kirk-cousins-browns-packers/

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (8/4/2022 10:21:08 PM)
The Rams had a small center like Bradbury, but does Kirk have enough mobility to make enough plays playing behind a center that gets tossed around a lot ? I read somewhere that Kirk was doing something to work on his lateral movement, dancing, yoga, karate, or something like that.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (8/4/2022 10:23:02 PM)
Would be nice to have another outside rusher giving you a rotation, and some backup help, as Hunter and Smith have been injury prone.

thebigo -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (8/4/2022 11:20:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty Would be nice to have another outside rusher giving you a rotation, and some backup help, as Hunter and Smith have been injury prone. In the 3-4 Hunter and Smith are pretty much the same player, so the rotation is pretty much built in.

thebigo -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (8/4/2022 11:22:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty The Rams had a small center like Bradbury, but does Kirk have enough mobility to make enough plays playing behind a center that gets tossed around a lot ? I read somewhere that Kirk was doing something to work on his lateral movement, dancing, yoga, karate, or something like that. He's probably got as much mobility as Stafford.

Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (8/5/2022 8:33:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: marty The Rams had a small center like Bradbury, but does Kirk have enough mobility to make enough plays playing behind a center that gets tossed around a lot ? I read somewhere that Kirk was doing something to work on his lateral movement, dancing, yoga, karate, or something like that. He's probably got as much mobility as Stafford. Hard to compare Allen to Bradbury.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/14/2022 12:20:44 PM)
Vikings should sign OBJ, he has a 'J' in his name.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 1:47:07 AM)
Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 10:40:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in. Inclusion of a letter in their name does not make them a good fit. OBJ shredded his knee. that's why no one has signed him yet. He's also the king of guy that has, in the past whined when he's not getting the ball. We have enough good recievers here. we don't need Odell Beckham. We need a new Center.

thebigo -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 11:03:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty The Rams had a small center like Bradbury, but does Kirk have enough mobility to make enough plays playing behind a center that gets tossed around a lot ? I read somewhere that Kirk was doing something to work on his lateral movement, dancing, yoga, karate, or something like that. Walking on water...

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 11:06:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: marty The Rams had a small center like Bradbury, but does Kirk have enough mobility to make enough plays playing behind a center that gets tossed around a lot ? I read somewhere that Kirk was doing something to work on his lateral movement, dancing, yoga, karate, or something like that. Walking on water... Then turning that into milk..

Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 11:21:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: marty Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in. Inclusion of a letter in their name does not make them a good fit. OBJ shredded his knee. that's why no one has signed him yet. He's also the king of guy that has, in the past whined when he's not getting the ball. We have enough good recievers here. we don't need Odell Beckham. We need a new Center. Marty would have 10-11 WR on the 53 man roster if he was GM.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 11:28:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: marty Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in. Inclusion of a letter in their name does not make them a good fit. OBJ shredded his knee. that's why no one has signed him yet. He's also the king of guy that has, in the past whined when he's not getting the ball. We have enough good recievers here. we don't need Odell Beckham. We need a new Center. Marty would have 10-11 WR on the 53 man roster if he was GM. IIRC, it was Marty that once proposed we use all of our draft picks on WRs.

thebigo -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 11:54:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: marty Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in. Inclusion of a letter in their name does not make them a good fit. OBJ shredded his knee. that's why no one has signed him yet. He's also the king of guy that has, in the past whined when he's not getting the ball. We have enough good recievers here. we don't need Odell Beckham. We need a new Center. Marty would have 10-11 WR on the 53 man roster if he was GM. IIRC, it was Marty that once proposed we use all of our draft picks on WRs. Is David Boston still available?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 12:02:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: marty Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in. Inclusion of a letter in their name does not make them a good fit. OBJ shredded his knee. that's why no one has signed him yet. He's also the king of guy that has, in the past whined when he's not getting the ball. We have enough good recievers here. we don't need Odell Beckham. We need a new Center. Your logical and factual post means nothing because the surgeon who operated on OBJ had a J in his name... or had a distant relative or friend with one.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/15/2022 12:03:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: marty Justin Jefferson, Adam J Thielen, K.J. Osborn, Jalen Reagor, Bisi Johnson, Trishton Jackson, Jalen Nailor They all have a 'J' in their name, OBJ would fit right in. Inclusion of a letter in their name does not make them a good fit. OBJ shredded his knee. that's why no one has signed him yet. He's also the king of guy that has, in the past whined when he's not getting the ball. We have enough good recievers here. we don't need Odell Beckham. We need a new Center. Marty would have 10-11 WR on the 53 man roster if he was GM. IIRC, it was Marty that once proposed we use all of our draft picks on WRs. Is David Boston still available? No J, but maybe he has some religious name like Joseph.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/17/2022 6:42:40 AM)
IF the Vikings went all WRs the year I was talking about David Boston, with their cupboard bare, they could have drafted: Santonio Holmes, Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall and Marquez Colston. But they would have missed out on QB Tarvaris Jackson. And LBer Chad Greenway.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (9/17/2022 6:51:39 AM)
That was the 2006 draft, 2007 didn't look nearly as good for WRs. In 2007, it may have been better to do a Ditka, trade the #5 pick, and all the rest of your picks, and with pick #1, pick WR Calvin Johnson (Megatron). The downside would have been not getting Adrian Peterson. But then you wouldn't have had the one dimensional offense with Peterson, when Favre arrived. But your WRs would have been: Calvin Johnson, Sidney Rice, Bernard Berrian and Percy Harvin. Take away all the Peterson fumbles, and maybe you beat the Saints and go on to win the SB that season.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (10/31/2022 5:14:28 PM)
I wonder with Theilen nursing that injury, if a WR might be a wise investment. Claypool gives you the nice size, you could have him in place of Theilen for the next year or 2. I like having one WR with size to complement JJ. it might be bad to pair him with another small WR. Or OBJ might make a lot sense, if you think the team could make a run this year.

David Levine -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (10/31/2022 6:50:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty IF the Vikings went all WRs the year I was talking about David Boston, with their cupboard bare, they could have drafted: Santonio Holmes, Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall and Marquez Colston. But they would have missed out on QB Tarvaris Jackson. And LBer Chad Greenway. They also could've drafted: Chad Jackson, Travis Wilson, Skyler Green and Kevin McMahan.

marty -> RE: 2022 Free Agency (10/31/2022 7:38:36 PM)
While what you say is true, I simply went to their picks, and looked at the next WR that was taken, and if they ranked them about the same as the other teams, they would have ended up with Santonio Holmes, Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall and Marquez Colston. I would have been happy with just ONE of them, but they EASILY could have had all FOUR. Just check for yourself, go back to that seasons' draft, look at where the Vikings picked, and if they were only looking at drafting WR (which they should have been), and look at what would have been available to them, look at the next WR or 2 that is taken, with each of the Vikings' picks.

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