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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

It's no wonder Sean McVay called the plays and kept KOC in some closet drawing up pass plays. With the game on the line, here is what the offensive mastermind dialed up:

1st & 10 at CHI 43
(3:27 - 4th) A.Mattison up the middle to CHI 43 for no gain (J.Brisker).

2nd & 10 at CHI 43
(2:45 - 4th) A.Mattison right tackle to CHI 42 for 1 yard (Ju.Jones).

3rd & 9 at CHI 42
(2:41 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Dobbs pass short left to B.Powell to CHI 43 for -1 yards (T.Edwards).

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

Can you teach killer instinct? Based on KOC I'd say it's at least something he's incapable of learning. Every game no matter what has to be close. I don't know Phil. I don't think he's taking us anywhere promising. I'd definitely love being proven wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

It's no wonder Sean McVay called the plays and kept KOC in some closet drawing up pass plays. With the game on the line, here is what the offensive mastermind dialed up:

1st & 10 at CHI 43
(3:27 - 4th) A.Mattison up the middle to CHI 43 for no gain (J.Brisker).

2nd & 10 at CHI 43
(2:45 - 4th) A.Mattison right tackle to CHI 42 for 1 yard (Ju.Jones).

3rd & 9 at CHI 42
(2:41 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Dobbs pass short left to B.Powell to CHI 43 for -1 yards (T.Edwards).

You're a little late to the party.[8|]

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

Can you teach killer instinct? Based on KOC I'd say it's at least something he's incapable of learning. Every game no matter what has to be close. I don't know Phil. I don't think he's taking us anywhere promising. I'd definitely love being proven wrong.

So you don't see how he has coached up Powell, Addison, Dobbs, etc. just to compete this year? There will be bad games....he still is learning too.

I couldn't stand to watch the game hardly last night but being neutral on KOC is easier than seeing what happened to Dobbs last night.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

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ORIGINAL: fmaltes

We saw the ceiling of Dobbs last night. Specifically, he is not a timing QB and telegraphs his throws.
KOC was trying to fit Dobbs into the offense that was designed for Kirk. This is a huge mistake.
What KOC does with his QB choice for the next game after the bye will be telling. If he choses Hall/Mullins he really wants to get back to his comfort zone. If he keeps Dobbs he really needs to design plays to his playset.
Dobbs needs roll outs and run/pass options. that has not been in the Vikings DNA.
Flores has done an outstanding job with a defense that really does not have a lot of top-tier talent. However, this team was designed to win on offense and only scoring 10 points with the weapons we have and three first round picks on the offensive line is inexcusable. This loss in is on KOC and Dobbs sloppy plays. He made a lot of dumb throws for a smart guy.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

Can you teach killer instinct? Based on KOC I'd say it's at least something he's incapable of learning. Every game no matter what has to be close. I don't know Phil. I don't think he's taking us anywhere promising. I'd definitely love being proven wrong.

So you don't see how he has coached up Powell, Addison, Dobbs, etc. just to compete this year? There will be bad games....he still is learning too.

I couldn't stand to watch the game hardly last night but being neutral on KOC is easier than seeing what happened to Dobbs last night.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

Fair enough. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

Can you teach killer instinct? Based on KOC I'd say it's at least something he's incapable of learning. Every game no matter what has to be close. I don't know Phil. I don't think he's taking us anywhere promising. I'd definitely love being proven wrong.

So you don't see how he has coached up Powell, Addison, Dobbs, etc. just to compete this year? There will be bad games....he still is learning too.

I couldn't stand to watch the game hardly last night but being neutral on KOC is easier than seeing what happened to Dobbs last night.

Dobbs is a bad example. He's getting way worse with each game of his coaching. He was way better winging it off the streets.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

Can you teach killer instinct? Based on KOC I'd say it's at least something he's incapable of learning. Every game no matter what has to be close. I don't know Phil. I don't think he's taking us anywhere promising. I'd definitely love being proven wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

Fair enough. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

Fair enough. [8|]

I still think there biggest problem is they have don't have a consistent running game....JJ coming back will help but just a bunch of questions on our RBs.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

Fair enough. [8|]

An hour ago he said "KOC is not the issue" [&o]

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

Fair enough. [8|]

An hour ago he said "KOC is not the issue" [&o]

3 weeks ago I said give Dobbs 2yrs 20M.[:-]

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen

Typical Vikings and their conservative play calling and zone defense when they need a stop. Doesn't matter who is coaching this team. We get one first down we win the game. Idiot calls two runs and a stupid WR screen...and then in post game blames the INT's. Fact is they had a chance to win and KOC blew it. And JJ should have been playing. Seven weeks for a hamstring? If the delay came from Jefferson they need to just get rid of him...selfish player. If it came from the Vikings they are just dumb. They can't even get tanking right...they will finish 8-9 or 9-8 and draft the fifth best QB in the draft.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
I wonder how many of KOC’s decisions were on the right side of analytics. A couple nice fakes on 4th that did work or would have worked but also a number of - wow we’re going for it here?! Add the turtling that has lost us games and I’d bet he’s not sporting a positive grade.

Last year we came from behind or it was tied in 4th quarter(8 comeback wins). That's when his play calling was at its best.
He has proven time and time again he can't protect a lead. I want him to use Viking analytics. We lose when he plays conservative at the end of games.

Weird a rookie coach comes in and turns that team into 13-4 and this year turns a team from 1-4 to 6-4....just never seen so many bandwagon jumpers on and off in my life. He has to learn yet how not to turtle....not a fireable offense with this years team.

Not surprised Brad H showed up with a poor attempt of a political slam to boot.

I'm not for firing the guy but have some awareness.

Saints game: Just lucky that they had Jameis playing
Denver game: Big turtle
CHI game: Bigger turtle

These young guys have egos. Listen to Staley when they question him. They are not changing for anyone. Even if it means losses(I guess).

Yes, Dobbs was terrible but, with the game on the line, you can draw up a roll out(on 1st down) and tell him to either run and slide or hit a wide open player. Chicago had been in FG range 5 times before last drive so you know they can move the ball on your defense.

Bingo. The guy isn't learning a damn thing. Doesn't inspire much confidence in my opinion. Huge red flags.

I have it more like:
Chicago Game: Turtle on the last drive
Saints Game: Biggest Turtle
Denver: Turtle

He needs to adapt and quickly.

Fair enough. [8|]

Two hours ago he said "KOC isn't the issue" [&o]

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen

Typical Vikings and their conservative play calling and zone defense when they need a stop. Doesn't matter who is coaching this team. We get one first down we win the game. Idiot calls two runs and a stupid WR screen...and then in post game blames the INT's. Fact is they had a chance to win and KOC blew it. And JJ should have been playing. Seven weeks for a hamstring? If the delay came from Jefferson they need to just get rid of him...selfish player. If it came from the Vikings they are just dumb. They can't even get tanking right...they will finish 8-9 or 9-8 and draft the fifth best QB in the draft.

But, I think you can get the fifth QB taken and still come away with a QBOTF.

Do I trust KAM and KOC to find that guy? Not sure.