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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

Personally, I'd like to see us stand pat at 11 and take a QB without trades. I feel we could get an elite playmaker at 23 or trade down and get some draft capital back and maybe then some; especially if a player some team covets keeps dropping.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

We will all find out soon.

I've been in this forum for as long as anyone. Can't remember there ever being this much anxiety about a first round pick.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

We will all find out soon.

I've been in this forum for as long as anyone. Can't remember there ever being this much anxiety about a first round pick.

My anxiety is due to my belief that Kwesi is going to totally screw the pooch.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

We will all find out soon.

I've been in this forum for as long as anyone. Can't remember there ever being this much anxiety about a first round pick.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

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Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

I'm pretty sure the giants will pass on him at 6 assuming we don't trade up for him. I wouldn't mind a slight trade up from 11 to 8 to lock him up. I do like him a tiny bit more than Nix.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

I'm pretty sure the giants will pass on him at 6 assuming we don't trade up for him. I'm almost certain the Raiders/Broncos wouldn't trade up to 9 or 10 knowing we would just trade up to 8 if that happened. I wouldn't mind a slight trade up from 11 to 8 to lock him up. I do like him a tiny bit more than Nix.

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I keep hearing rumblings of a blockbuster trade scenario tonight involving JJ. I'm not opposed to it either. It could net a top 5 pick and possibly a 2nd at best and 3rd at worst. I am not a huge fan of paying franchise QB money for a WR, no matter who it is. Three 1st rounders would be incredible. Talk about room to maneuver between picking up a QBOTF/stud defensive players/trade down for next year's draft picks. Hitting on QBOTF is the most important thing. The Chiefs showed that you can lose a stud WR (Tyreek Hill) and be okay if you have an elite QB.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

I'm pretty sure the giants will pass on him at 6 assuming we don't trade up for him. I wouldn't mind a slight trade up from 11 to 8 to lock him up. I do like him a tiny bit more than Nix.

I've advocated a trade up to the Falcons in the past if McCarthy slides past the Giants.

The drop off from McCarthy to Nix is Wile E Coyote falling off a cliff.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

I'm pretty sure the giants will pass on him at 6 assuming we don't trade up for him. I wouldn't mind a slight trade up from 11 to 8 to lock him up. I do like him a tiny bit more than Nix.

I've advocated a trade up to the Falcons in the past if McCarthy slides past the Giants.

The drop off from McCarthy to Nix is Wile E Coyote falling off a cliff.

Take a look at my edited post that you quoted pre edit. Nix will be better than McCarthy for at least the next two years, but I can see McCarthy catching and passing Nix in year 3. That is why big picture I prefer McCarthy. Payton is more desperate to win now and that is why I believe he prefers Nix.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I think KAM-KOC see JJ as the face of their franchise, unfortunately. I think they would be more than happy to find a quietly efficient QB to complement him.

Checking in with JJ and keeping him abreast of our QB plans tells you all you need to know about our priorities.

Trading JJ to position ourselves for a QB just makes too much sense for us but not WASH or NE - they are more qb desperate than us.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young
WE have two picks today..
Then nothing? Until the 4th round…
People saying he can fix this team, or defending KAM and his management “ style” are not all that bright.
We are trying to fix a 7-10 team with one valid Starting QB and multiple holes on the DL , garbage at center, and other positions with 9 picks..
7 of which are 4-7 th round players who will be picked fron the dumpster behind Pizza King…in Detroit.
Total dysfunctional management, yet thousands of fans are “ hyped” about the possibility of a breakout season in 2024.
What koolaid are those people drinking?
KAM is so far in over his head, he needs a 20 foot extention ladder to get his head out of the dumpster that is on fire…
This is gonna be worse than his first draft.

No Free Agents?

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I think KAM-KOC see JJ as the face of their franchise, unfortunately. I think they would be more than happy to find a quietly efficient QB to complement him.

Checking in with JJ and keeping him abreast of our QB plans tells you all you need to know about our priorities.

Trading JJ to position ourselves for a QB just makes too much sense for us but not WASH or NE - they are more qb desperate than us.

Why would any GM check in with the wide receiver? It's a business. He's paid to catch balls.

I'd rather have my GM checking in with his trainers to see how his hamstring is progressing. That concerns me more than his opinion on the future of the quarterback position within the franchise.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I think KAM-KOC see JJ as the face of their franchise, unfortunately. I think they would be more than happy to find a quietly efficient QB to complement him.

Checking in with JJ and keeping him abreast of our QB plans tells you all you need to know about our priorities.

Trading JJ to position ourselves for a QB just makes too much sense for us but not WASH or NE - they are more qb desperate than us.

Why would any GM check in with the wide receiver? It's a business. He's paid to catch balls.

I'd rather have my GM checking in with his trainers to see how his hamstring is progressing. That concerns me more than his opinion on the future of the quarterback position within the franchise.

I don't think he's anything special relative to what's happened with WRs in just two years. Chase, St. Brown, Nacua, Lamb, Collins, Aiyuk, and more... plus at least three WR studs entering the league.

He's good. He's not $30+ million, no-trade, huge % guaranteed money good.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

All I know is this: If the Vikings give up both draft picks and a future to move up to #4 to select McCarthy, it could end up going down as the dumbest move since trading for Herschel Walker.

Especially considering he might be there at 11 if we stick and pick.

The only way he is there is if the Giants pass on him and neither of the QB desperate teams immediately behind us jump up to 9 or 10 to take him. I find that scenario to be highly unlikely.

I'm pretty sure the giants will pass on him at 6 assuming we don't trade up for him. I wouldn't mind a slight trade up from 11 to 8 to lock him up. I do like him a tiny bit more than Nix.

I've advocated a trade up to the Falcons in the past if McCarthy slides past the Giants.

The drop off from McCarthy to Nix is Wile E Coyote falling off a cliff.

Take a look at my edited post that you quoted pre edit. Nix will be better than McCarthy for at least the next two years, but I can see McCarthy catching and passing Nix in year 3. That is why big picture I prefer McCarthy. Payton is more desperate to win now and that is why I believe he prefers Nix.

It's 2024. Quarterbacks rarely get three years to prove themselves. The days of sitting on a bench for a year are long gone.