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DavidAOlson -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 5:30:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

A DT in the 7th, #12.

6'1", 269 lbs.


Levi Drake Rodriguez

Did not see that coming. I wonder why they didn't think he was under the radar and they could wait. Obviously they had him rated higher than any other remaining option.

FWIW, his college lists him as 6'4", 290. But I'd assume that's slightly inflated.




Todd M -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 5:30:58 PM)

The JJ & Dallas draft.

Oh well, we’ve gotten less than a franchise QB and stud DL in drafts with 10+ picks.




Todd M -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 5:38:04 PM)

Khyree Jackson says he loves demolishing guys. Cuts a mean ham.




Dave Odle -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 5:49:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

A DT in the 7th, #12.

6'1", 269 lbs.


Levi Drake Rodriguez

Did not see that coming. I wonder why they didn't think he was under the radar and they could wait. Obviously they had him rated higher than any other remaining option.

FWIW, his college lists him as 6'4", 290. But I'd assume that's slightly inflated.


Don't know how good he'll be, but I'm rooting for him. My oldest daughter is graduating from A&M-Commerce this Spring and it's about 20 miles up the road from us in East Texas.




odin -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 5:52:44 PM)

Mahogany drafted #210 to bite kneecaps.

Jerry Rice's son #225 to the chargers.

I would have been OK with either instead of the swing tackle at #177.

I hope our 3rd drafted kicker in recent memory works out.

Happy with the process of round #1, and look forward to seeing McCarthy develop! Promising intangibles, seems to have the "it" factor. I hope they stick to his development plan.

Turner should be a lot of fun to watch too! I was hoping for a skilled DT, but there's always next year




DavidAOlson -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 6:20:24 PM)

One minor mystery solved:

Levi Drake Rodriguez got a write up in The Athletic as Prospect X: the most under the radar prospect, which of course he wasn't after the article. The Vikes had been watching him for a while, along with a handful of other NFL teams.




kwheats -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 6:28:41 PM)

Will Ragatz
@WillRagatz
UDFA season is underway. Some players who are reportedly signing with the #Vikings:

UCLA EDGE Gabriel Murphy (111 on consensus board)
Arkansas CB Dwight McGlothern (189)
Arizona DL Tyler Manoa
Air Force LB Bo Richter




kwheats -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 6:34:34 PM)

Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
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3m
Former South Carolina TE Trey Knox is signing with the #Vikings, per source.




kwheats -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 6:43:07 PM)

The Purple Persuasion
@TPPSkol
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2m
#Vikings add Boise State S Seyi Oladipo as an undrafted free agent.




kwheats -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 6:50:31 PM)

The Purple Persuasion
@TPPSkol
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5m
Dallas Gant, LB from Toledo is signing wkth the #Vikings.




kwheats -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 6:58:20 PM)

Taki Taimani - DL - Oregon




Chris Olson -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 7:04:10 PM)

we don't need two guys named Dallas




Tom Sykes -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 7:07:27 PM)

UDFAs. My favorite part of the draft after rd 4.

Maybe because The Undrafted sounds like a football version of The Leftovers, the series about people left behind after the Rapture.

Also, I really love UDFA rankings. I mean, I don't want to say The Least Lame rankings but ... you know what I mean?

Per example: #1 ranked Edge Gabriel Murphy signed with us. So did #2 TE Trey Knox.

I love this stuff. If we had drafted them in the 6th or 7th I'd dismiss them as after thoughts. But now ... they're highly recruited by our team!




Chris Olson -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 7:12:43 PM)

Gotta say, the Turner pick made this draft amazing, no matter what else happened or who else is good

Everyone else is a position of need, and each of those guys were targeted...

I don't really care about "draft rankings", but we did go after the right positions

(except maybe kicker, I thought we were in on some great kicker option already)

If JJMCC turns out to be legit, then this is an all time draft for us!




Viking Rich -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 7:47:52 PM)

Big difference in the Trey Knox highlights between playing for Arkansas and South Carolina. A lot more short stuff with South Carolina; much more downfield receiving with Arkansas. Appears to have very good hands.




kwheats -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 7:59:29 PM)

EAGAN, Minn. — The Minnesota Vikings on Saturday followed the 2024 NFL Draft by agreeing to terms with the following 17 undrafted free agents (listed alphabetically by last name):

Matt Cindric, OL, California

K.J. Cloyd, LB, Miami

Jeremy Flax, OL, Kentucky

Dallas Grant, LB, Toledo

Devron Harper, WR, Mercer

Ty James, WR, Mercer

Jeshaun Jones, WR, Maryland

Trey Knox, TE, South Carolina

Tyler Manoa, DL, Arizona

Donovan Manuel, LB, Florida International

Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas

Gabriel Murphy, OLB, UCLA

Doug Nester, OL, West Virginia

Owen Porter, OLB, Marshall

Bo Richter, OLB, Air Force

Spencer Rolland, OL, North Carolina

Taki Taimani, DL, Oregon




Todd M -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 8:37:10 PM)

Zero complaints.

BOLE




DavidAOlson -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/27/2024 10:56:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kwheats

EAGAN, Minn. — The Minnesota Vikings on Saturday followed the 2024 NFL Draft by agreeing to terms with the following 17 undrafted free agents (listed alphabetically by last name): ...



Three of them were in the top 300 of the consensus board:

#295 Trey Knox, TE, South Carolina, the 15th TE, around #60 UDFA

#189 Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas, the 22nd CB, #8 UDFA

#111 Gabriel Murphy, OLB, UCLA 12 Edge, #1 UDFA

Last year Pace was very high on the UDFA list. I thought he was the equivalent of bonus 4th round pick. Andre Carter II was also very high.

Think of Murphy as a bonus 4th round pick. And McGlothern is a bonus 6th rounder. Very likely to make the roster or practice squad.




kgdabom -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 5:03:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

quote:

ORIGINAL: kwheats

EAGAN, Minn. — The Minnesota Vikings on Saturday followed the 2024 NFL Draft by agreeing to terms with the following 17 undrafted free agents (listed alphabetically by last name): ...



Three of them were in the top 300 of the consensus board:

#295 Trey Knox, TE, South Carolina, the 15th TE, around #60 UDFA

#189 Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas, the 22nd CB, #8 UDFA

#111 Gabriel Murphy, OLB, UCLA 12 Edge, #1 UDFA

Last year Pace was very high on the UDFA list. I thought he was the equivalent of bonus 4th round pick. Andre Carter II was also very high.

Think of Murphy as a bonus 4th round pick. And McGlothern is a bonus 6th rounder. Very likely to make the roster or practice squad.

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Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 9:04:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

A DT in the 7th, #12.

6'1", 269 lbs.


Levi Drake Rodriguez

Did not see that coming. I wonder why they didn't think he was under the radar and they could wait. Obviously they had him rated higher than any other remaining option.

FWIW, his college lists him as 6'4", 290. But I'd assume that's slightly inflated.


I've since seen 6'2", 300. 269 sounds like old info:

So, what are the Vikings getting out of Prospect X? Here are some highlights:

- He's always eating. Rodriguez had gained nearly 30 pounds during the offseason while preparing to take the jump to the NFL. There are also anecdotes of him keeping Twizzlers in his helmet, mango in his football pants. Be it peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or gummy bears, he always has food on his person. He even would eat raw sugar cane between drills.

- Rodriguez started playing tackle football at 6 years old. He tried playing flag football a year earlier, but didn't like it. He wanted to hit people. By the age of 8,
- Rodriguez wrote "I will be a professional football player!! In Jesus Name!" on a whiteboard he's since taken with him whenever he's moved.

- After three seasons at Southwest Assemblies of God University, Rodriguez began to worry he wouldn't get noticed as a prospect. He prayed on it, and eventually sent an email to Texas A&M Commerce's defensive line coach, Michael Smith, who usually would ignore that kind of email. But Rodriguez's stood out.

- Rodriguez was described as the first in, last out type of player. Like for real. Rodriguez got sick of being beat to the facility by custodians, so he started sleeping there, either on a pile of water bags or on a pole vault mat outside.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 9:26:18 AM)

Yeah Murphy is an edge with ht/wt like Turner. Logical stunt double.

2 WRs from Mercer.




Ricky J -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 10:29:40 AM)

Cool story




David Levine -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 11:39:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

quote:

ORIGINAL: kwheats

EAGAN, Minn. — The Minnesota Vikings on Saturday followed the 2024 NFL Draft by agreeing to terms with the following 17 undrafted free agents (listed alphabetically by last name): ...



Three of them were in the top 300 of the consensus board:

#295 Trey Knox, TE, South Carolina, the 15th TE, around #60 UDFA

#189 Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas, the 22nd CB, #8 UDFA

#111 Gabriel Murphy, OLB, UCLA 12 Edge, #1 UDFA

Last year Pace was very high on the UDFA list. I thought he was the equivalent of bonus 4th round pick. Andre Carter II was also very high.

Think of Murphy as a bonus 4th round pick. And McGlothern is a bonus 6th rounder. Very likely to make the roster or practice squad.


Gabriel Murphy, EDGE, UCLA

Size:


Height: 6’2”

Weight: 247 pounds

Arm Length: 30 1/2"

Hand Size: 9 1/4"

Accomplishments:

All-Pac-12 Honorable Mention (2023)

“Gabriel Murphy is a polished edge rusher with plus athleticism and versatility for creative defensive coordinators.”

Strengths:

Dip, rip, and bend around corners

Polished hand fighter

Quickness and suddenness

Strong first step

Pass-rush alignment versatility

Concerns:

Short arms and wingspan

Block shedding

Speed-to-power conversion

Maintaining outside leverage vs. run

Film Analysis:

The polished hand usage of Gabriel Murphy stood out immediately after turning on the tape. He has quick hands for well-timed punches. Murphy combines multiple pass-rush maneuvers to defeat his blocker. He deploys an effective club, cross-chops, two-hand swipe, and long-arm over technique. I was impressed with how he uses the blend of hand fighting, dip, and bend to corner tackles and get in the backfield quickly. A good first step impacts the OT’s gate (hips) opening. As a result, this creates a natural counter path on the inside track to get into the face of the QB quicker. Murphy does a good job reducing hitting surface area to slip the hands of blockers.

Murphy aligns all over the Bruins’ defense. He has taken snaps at edge, 0-tech, 3/4-techs, and off-ball backer. His athletic ability makes him a potential QB spy candidate against the talented dual-threat and scrambling QBs in the NFL. This alignment versatility will fit well with creative defensive coordinators who prioritize various fronts to confuse the OL and QB.

Murphy’s drawbacks start with his limited arm length and wingspan. He counters this issue with immense quickness with his maneuvers, but once OL gets latched or their punches land first, it’s an uphill battle for him. He is adequate at best shedding blocks. His functional strength is only sufficient and it leads to struggles versus power at the point of attack. Murphy tends to take the inside path when handling run duties aligned on the outside. He must show improvement with striking, stacking, and controlling outside leverage. This allows him to be a full-time three-down player at the next level, instead of a role-specific one.

In all, Murphy is a juiced-up and polished pass rusher, who projects as an eventual starter as a 3-4/odd front edge rusher. His quickness, hand-fighting skills, and pressure effectiveness make him a solid starter at the next level.

Prospect Projection: Day 2 — Adequate Starter

Written By: Damian Parson

Exposures: USC (2023), UCLA (2023), Oregon State (2023), Colorado (2023), Washington State (2023)

https://www.thedraftnetwork.com/2024/03/15/gabriel-murphy-scouting-report-nfl-draft-2024




Bill Jandro -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 12:24:26 PM)

Unless I missed it we didn't land a rb anywhere?

I wonder if Kene has increased value with the new KO rules?




lyle chabot -> RE: 2024 Draft (4/28/2024 12:43:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Unless I missed it we didn't land a rb anywhere?

I wonder if Kene has increased value with the new KO rules?

Bill,
I was surprised we did not draft a RB in the later rounds. It may be due to having limited picks?




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