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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

I doubt it. Darnold is not a game manager. He’s as much of a turnover machine as Mullens, but at 5x the cost…

66 games (56 starts): 56 INTs, 38 Fumbles.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

Imho, There's zero chance Kwesi and KOC put their future in Darnold's hands.

We're drafting a QB high THIS year. With the depth of this year's QB class and the need it would be negligence if they didn't address it considering where their picking.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

Imho, There's zero chance Kwesi and KOC put their future in Darnold's hands.

We're drafting a QB high THIS year. With the depth of this year's QB class and the need it would be negligence if they didn't address it considering where their picking.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

Imho, There's zero chance Kwesi and KOC put their future in Darnold's hands.

We're drafting a QB high THIS year. With the depth of this year's QB class and the need it would be negligence if they didn't address it considering where their picking.

I've heard several times that next year's QB class is not as strong – on paper – as this year's class.

That's almost meaningless because nobody knows, its just more draftnik quackery.

But if the millions I pump into my college scouting and personnel department comes up with that conclusion, I am going to be very aggressive this year.

It sure looks like we've been aligning ourselves the last two years to draft somebody significant this year.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

I doubt it. Darnold is not a game manager. He’s as much of a turnover machine as Mullens, but at 5x the cost…

66 games (56 starts): 56 INTs, 38 Fumbles.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I seriously think that there was never a real desire to bring back Kirk.

Kwesi is set on drafting a QB, and I think he'll sell the farm to get the guy he wants...

Darnold is a reasonable back up/bridge QB (the turnovers are scary, but he's been better last couple years)

Hopefully Darnold never has to play and the rookie (Daniels, please) takes the Stroud route to stardom

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

I doubt it. Darnold is not a game manager. He’s as much of a turnover machine as Mullens, but at 5x the cost…

66 games (56 starts): 56 INTs, 38 Fumbles.

Thats terrible

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

I doubt it. Darnold is not a game manager. He’s as much of a turnover machine as Mullens, but at 5x the cost…

66 games (56 starts): 56 INTs, 38 Fumbles.

Maybe wishful thinking but it seems Darnold could be coached out of some of those interceptions, where Mullens just has a weird compulsion with making 5-6 idiotic plays a game that cost wins.

But like I said, I have no doubt they WANT to get a high QB this year. But want and reality are sometimes two different things on draft day. You can’t be so locked into one plan that you panic.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Hilarious to read his new believers say "So-what, it isn't your money" about the contract to impersonalize it (never mind they ignore the wider cap implications) then say "He's a nice guy" as if that personal touch means something [&:][&:]

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

There are a lot of Falcons fans (or fans from other teams) pointing out Cousins' garbage stats, choking, crazy contract(s), etc. while the new Cousins believers counter with "Na na na na boo boo".

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

Imho, There's zero chance Kwesi and KOC put their future in Darnold's hands.

We're drafting a QB high THIS year. With the depth of this year's QB class and the need it would be negligence if they didn't address it considering where their picking.

I've heard several times that next year's QB class is not as strong – on paper – as this year's class.

That's almost meaningless because nobody knows, its just more draftnik quackery.

But if the millions I pump into my college scouting and personnel department comes up with that conclusion, I am going to be very aggressive this year.

It sure looks like we've been aligning ourselves the last two years to draft somebody significant this year.

1) Chicago Bears (from Carolina) Taking a QB
2) Washington Commanders Taking a QB
3) New England Patriots Taking a QB
4) Arizona Cardinals
5) Los Angeles Chargers
6) New York Giants Wild Card
7) Tennessee Titans
8) Atlanta Falcons
9) Chicago Bears
10) New York Jets Bit of a Wild Card
11) Minnesota Vikings Needs a QB
12) Denver Broncos Needs a QB
13) Las Vegas Raiders
14) New Orleans Saints
15) Indianapolis Colts
16) Seattle Seahawks Needs a QB

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

pretty clear the Darnold signing is for a bridge guy...

and I bet they are expecting the 1st rd QB will be starting anyway...

or starting after a few games, like Richardson did last year

just glad we finally cut ties with Kirk, everything looks rosy because of that albatross being cut free

I’m not so sure of that.

I don’t think it’s a given they draft a high pick QB. It would certainly be the conventional wisdom that they do. Darnold a bridge to QBOTF. And that may be plan A. But what if things don’t go their way in the draft? You cannot afford to ‘settle’. You need a very strong plan B C and D. Plans that don’t assume you HAVE to draft a QB if you fail to get your guy.

KAM is a third year GM whose team regressed last year, and whose drafts have been mostly mediocre. If the Vikings don’t return to the playoffs immediately his job is on very shaky ground. Loading up on blue chip defensive toys for Flores’ defense while saving money with a game manager QB may be a path to sneak back into the playoffs and buy him another year to think about acquiring the QBOF.

I doubt it. Darnold is not a game manager. He’s as much of a turnover machine as Mullens, but at 5x the cost…

66 games (56 starts): 56 INTs, 38 Fumbles.

Maybe wishful thinking but it seems Darnold could be coached out of some of those interceptions, where Mullens just has a weird compulsion with making 5-6 idiotic plays a game that cost wins.

But like I said, I have no doubt they WANT to get a high QB this year. But want and reality are sometimes two different things on draft day. You can’t be so locked into one plan that you panic.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

. Not sure why the Cards aren't but they should be.

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

My biggest issue on the GM is not to recognize this situation after Cousins went down. HE should have sold of the veterans and tanked and we would likely be draft right around the fourth position. Now we may need to pay heavily to get the QB we want. Or to make sure we get who we want. If the first 4 QB's are gone and we cannot find a taker to move up for one of them, then I'd rather roll with Darnold and hopefully he throws a ton of interceptions this year.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

And the Dean Lowry era is over in Minnesota!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-release-veteran-dt-dean-lowry-waive-lb/ar-BB1jLlg3

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

And the Dean Lowry era is over in Minnesota!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-release-veteran-dt-dean-lowry-waive-lb/ar-BB1jLlg3

It’s over, but we need to find a big run stuffer along the d line. We have a lot of needs, but not a lot of draft picks to get things done. The idl and iol are very shaky right now. That’s where games are won or lost.

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

And the Dean Lowry era is over in Minnesota!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-release-veteran-dt-dean-lowry-waive-lb/ar-BB1jLlg3

It’s over, but we need to find a big run stuffer along the d line. We have a lot of needs, but not a lot of draft picks to get things done. The idl and iol are very shaky right now. That’s where games are won or lost.

YES
We really need a stud Guard and a stud DT.
Also starting CB