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Mark Anderson -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/16/2024 1:04:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Twins sign Tony Kemp.

Rocco going to starting bunting and stealing bases.



twinsfan -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/16/2024 1:13:18 PM)

Lots of moves today. Larnach up, Wallner down. Interesting that they made this move while on the road.



Karl Juhnke -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/16/2024 6:41:14 PM)

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Lots of moves today. Larnach up, Wallner down. Interesting that they made this move while on the road.


Got to do something. Dude was 2-25. Panic mode has set in.

I was never sold on Wallner. Poor man’s Larnach, who in turn is a poor man’s Kirilloff, who in turn is a poor man’s…



twinsfan -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/16/2024 7:25:42 PM)

Kepler



boydster -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/16/2024 8:52:30 PM)

Paddack gets ponded 9 runs in 5.1



Jeff Allen -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/16/2024 10:26:54 PM)

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Paddack gets ponded 9 runs in 5.1


Shocking that their starting pitching is a problem.

Lopez
Ryan is a #3
Ober is a #4
Paddack is a #5
Varland should be in the pen

Needed a #2 SP to compete and they don't have one.



Brad H -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 8:04:43 AM)

Luis Arraez is back up to .292 and has struck out 8 times this season

Edouard Julien is batting .189 and has struck out 21 times this season.



Pablo Lopez......1-2 with a 4.86

Just sayin!



Trekgeekscott -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 11:50:51 AM)

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Luis Arraez is back up to .292 and has struck out 8 times this season

Edouard Julien is batting .189 and has struck out 21 times this season.



Pablo Lopez......1-2 with a 4.86

Just sayin!


We're just halfway through April

Stop sayin



Trekgeekscott -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 11:51:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen

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ORIGINAL: boydster

Paddack gets ponded 9 runs in 5.1


Shocking that their starting pitching is a problem.

Lopez
Ryan is a #3
Ober is a #4
Paddack is a #5
Varland should be in the pen

Needed a #2 SP to compete and they don't have one.


I think you're mistaken

Our rotation is Lopez
Ryan
Ugh
Oof
Eww



Mark Anderson -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 12:44:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Luis Arraez is back up to .292 and has struck out 8 times this season

Edouard Julien is batting .189 and has struck out 21 times this season.



Pablo Lopez......1-2 with a 4.86

Just sayin!


We're just halfway through April

Stop sayin

Give the guy a break. He couldn't(wouldn't) post after All Star break last year.



twinsfan -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 3:27:24 PM)

Rocco is one week away from getting canned.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 4:45:42 PM)

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Rocco is one week away from getting canned.


Why?
So Far:
Santana fail
Margot fail
Paddock as a 4 fail
Varland as a 5 fail
DeSciani trade fail

Those 5 are the GM/FO.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 4:47:54 PM)

1st move.
Time to start Woods Richardson/Festa/Raya as the 4/5 and move Varland to BP.


Hitting...really no idea. Should have signed JD instead of Santana first and foremost.



Mister Ed -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 5:18:58 PM)

Another adventure to Loserville.. Wheeeee

Great job Twins!



TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 8:04:35 PM)

At least we're under budget.



TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/17/2024 8:06:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Rocco is one week away from getting canned.


Why?
So Far:
Santana fail
Margot fail
Paddock as a 4 fail
Varland as a 5 fail
DeSciani trade fail

Those 5 are the GM/FO.

Yeah, but shit rolls down hill.



TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 6:59:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen

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ORIGINAL: boydster

Paddack gets ponded 9 runs in 5.1


Shocking that their starting pitching is a problem.

Lopez
Ryan is a #3
Ober is a #4
Paddack is a #5
Varland should be in the pen

Needed a #2 SP to compete and they don't have one.


I think you're mistaken

Our rotation is Lopez
Ryan
Ugh
Oof
Eww

Actually, I think Eww is before Oof.



Karl Juhnke -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 8:20:41 AM)

I still think Ober will be okay. Just a terrible first start that will inflate his era for a while. He’s given up 1 run in 11 innings since then.

But Varland and Paddock? No.



Brad H -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 8:52:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Luis Arraez is back up to .292 and has struck out 8 times this season

Edouard Julien is batting .189 and has struck out 21 times this season.



Pablo Lopez......1-2 with a 4.86

Just sayin!


We're just halfway through April

Stop sayin

Give the guy a break. He couldn't(wouldn't) post after All Star break last year.

You are right, I forgot to post this. Thanks for reminding me.

2023 Final Numbers

Pablo Lopez, 11-8, 3.66 ERA (pedestrian numbers)

Luis Arraez, .354 BA (batting champion), .393 OB%, .993 Fld%, led NL second basemen in double-plays turned (Silver Slugger Award, National League All Star, 8th in NL MVP voting)
Second player in the modern era to win a batting title in both leagues.

Is this past the statute of limitations to qualify as after last year's All Star Game?



Karl Juhnke -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 8:58:37 AM)

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8th in NL MVP voting



And Lopez was 7th in Cy Young voting.



Brad H -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 9:00:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

8th in NL MVP voting



And Lopez was 7th in Cy Young voting.

Cy Young Award is for one position. MVP voting is for all of them.



Karl Juhnke -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 9:01:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

8th in NL MVP voting



And Lopez was 7th in Cy Young voting.

Cy Young Award is for one position. MVP is all of them.


Not really. Many feel pitchers should not get MVP award, and vote accordingly.



Brad H -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 9:08:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

8th in NL MVP voting



And Lopez was 7th in Cy Young voting.

Cy Young Award is for one position. MVP is all of them.


Not really. Many feel pitchers should not get MVP award, and vote accordingly.

You get the point.



TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 9:09:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

8th in NL MVP voting



And Lopez was 7th in Cy Young voting.

Cy Young Award is for one position. MVP is all of them.


Not really. Many feel pitchers should not get MVP award, and vote accordingly.

Yep. There have Cy Young / MVP winners.

I just go with López snapping our 18 game post season losing streak. Then he followed it up by dominating Houston in the second round. That trade is one of the few moves Falvine has no need to apologize for making.



Trekgeekscott -> RE: Twins 2024 Season and Game Day Thread (4/18/2024 9:28:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Rocco is one week away from getting canned.


Why?
So Far:
Santana fail
Margot fail
Paddock as a 4 fail
Varland as a 5 fail
DeSciani trade fail

Those 5 are the GM/FO.


Rocco isn't getting canned. and what you listed Phil, considering the constraints on the budget given to the GM/FO I would say all of it is on ownership and their BULLSHIT excuse to cut payroll.

Without that limitation I doubt Margot, Santana would've been signed and they would have rode into this season with at least Varland in the rotation. Paddack was a virtual lock to enter the rotation either way.

But they made no effort to add starting pitching, because of the budget
They signed aging has beens and traded for a never way because of the budget
They hoped and prayed for injuries to be minimized...and here we are 16 or so games in and half our bullpen, our starting ss, 3B and RF all on the shelf, the LF we were counting on to slug the shit out of it sent down. We are relying on Farmer at SS, Castro at 3B and in the line up nightly.

Most of this was the result of budget.

You could hire Theo Epstein to run this front office and we'd still be here because ownership has once again gone cheap.

Why fire the manager? or the front office? Nothing will change if we do.



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