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beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:27:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young KOC needs better assistant coaches.. OL, secondary, special teams… For starters... lol

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:29:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young KOC needs better assistant coaches.. OL, secondary, special teams… For starters... lol gotta start somewhere.. I’d add strength and conditioning to that list..

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:30:44 PM)
Ham just buried a guy... great to see some physicality

David Levine -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:33:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer No separation Jefferson Why not call it a drop too? Dude gets a pass for being a bum in too many games. He's not a difference maker. I can see the overrated.... But name me a difference maker WR with a terrible QB. He's done it his whole career. Stat pad against bum teams and disappear in big games. Which QBs showed up in big games? In fact which Vikes teams showed up in big games... deeper problem. Cousins!! No…wait… Darnold!!! Crap. This is hard. Those guys targeted him all the time. Maybe he could've got open. That would help. Crazy how a guy who is universally considered one of the 2-3 best route runners in the league can’t get open…

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:41:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer No separation Jefferson Why not call it a drop too? Dude gets a pass for being a bum in too many games. He's not a difference maker. I can see the overrated.... But name me a difference maker WR with a terrible QB. He's done it his whole career. Stat pad against bum teams and disappear in big games. Which QBs showed up in big games? In fact which Vikes teams showed up in big games... deeper problem. Cousins!! No…wait… Darnold!!! Crap. This is hard. Those guys targeted him all the time. Maybe he could've got open. That would help. Crazy how a guy who is universally considered one of the 2-3 best route runners in the league can’t get open… I don't see him getting any separation against a weak defense tonight. Do you?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:45:35 PM)
Route running is his strong suit. He's just not a game breaker. More like a cross between a possession receiver and a wideout.

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:47:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer No separation Jefferson Why not call it a drop too? Dude gets a pass for being a bum in too many games. He's not a difference maker. I can see the overrated.... But name me a difference maker WR with a terrible QB. He's done it his whole career. Stat pad against bum teams and disappear in big games. Which QBs showed up in big games? In fact which Vikes teams showed up in big games... deeper problem. Cousins!! No…wait… Darnold!!! Crap. This is hard. Those guys targeted him all the time. Maybe he could've got open. That would help. Crazy how a guy who is universally considered one of the 2-3 best route runners in the league can’t get open… I don't see him getting any separation against a weak defense tonight. Do you? ymmv He caught a TD called back on a penalty The pass before the FG you have to throw on his back shoulder to give him a chance... he has pulled those in... instead it sailed over his head...

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:48:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Route running is his strong suit. He's just not a game breaker. More like a cross between a possession receiver and a wideout. Overpaid possession receiver. I think that's accurate.

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:49:59 PM)
Hard to watch Harrison out there on some plays... he has aged

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:50:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo Hard to watch Harrison out there on some plays... he has aged Got dragged for 8 yards.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 8:53:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Route running is his strong suit. He's just not a game breaker. More like a cross between a possession receiver and a wideout. Overpaid possession receiver. I think that's accurate. Overpaid? He's going to get a mere $40 million in each of the next three years. That's a slap in the face for a guy with so many commercials.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:02:22 PM)
Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials.

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:04:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials. (also the most receiving yards of any player in their first 5 years)

Bill Johanesen -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:05:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials. (also the most receiving yards of any player in their first 5 years) Also zero career playoff victories.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:07:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials. (also the most receiving yards of any player in their first 5 years) Good for him since that's all he cares about. Too bad he disappears against good corners and in big games. He's pretty allergic to the endzone too.

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:07:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials. (also the most receiving yards of any player in their first 5 years) Also zero career playoff victories. That's true... we just disagree about the root cause of that. I don't know that he is worth 40 mil a year either... But on the long list of problems... he doesn't rank high for me. Get a frachise qb and a lot of your problems go away, imo

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:10:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials. (also the most receiving yards of any player in their first 5 years) Also zero career playoff victories. That's true... we just disagree about the root cause of that. I don't know that he is worth 40 mil a year either... But on the long list of problems... he doesn't rank high for me. Get a frachise qb and a lot of your problems go away, imo A franchise qb and building the lines are much more important than a receiver for sure.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:10:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson is the first 40-40-40 player in the NFL. 40 million, 40 carats on the field, 40 commercials. (also the most receiving yards of any player in their first 5 years) Also zero career playoff victories. That's true... we just disagree about the root cause of that. I don't know that he is worth 40 mil a year either... But on the long list of problems... he doesn't rank high for me. Get a frachise qb and a lot of your problems go away, imo Yes. And for the foreseeable future he is the guy that has the wrap on the franchise QB salary. I don't know of a single successful team that has a QB and WR at $40 million each.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:18:06 PM)
That was awful.

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:20:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer That was awful. sigh yep

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:21:49 PM)
Meanwhile.. back at the game,, ( outside of the Jefferson hate glaze)… KOC and JJM go 3-out consecutively… And our pass defense is ass…

beo -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:22:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Meanwhile.. back at the game,, ( outside of the Jefferson hate glaze)… KOC and JJM go 3-out consecutively… And our pass defense is ass… sigh yep

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:22:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Meanwhile.. back at the game,, ( outside of the Jefferson hate glaze)… KOC and JJM go 3-out consecutively… And our pass defense is ass… Maybe if Jefferson could get open they wouldn't go 3 and out all the time.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:22:53 PM)
Who TF is #33? Dorsett?

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: WEEK 15: @ Cowboys 12-14-25 7:20PM CT (12/14/2025 9:23:03 PM)
Run defense too..

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