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MarkSP18 -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 5:35:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I sometimes think what a player or coach says before a game can be quite meaningful in predicting an outcome in part based on expectation. Now, this may not have been his intention, but when Adrian Peterson said THIS: "We have to get off to a fast start (Sunday)," he said. "It'll* be hard playing catch-up at Heinz Field."* I couldn't but think that had he said "It WOULD be hard playing catch-up at Heinz Field", that would have meant he expected that the Vikes would NOT be behind, but because he said "It'll be hard playing catch-up at Heinz Field", it makes me think that he believes the Vikes WILL be playing catch-up. And that is NOT a good sign. I think the Vikes will lose this one, even if Favre plays well. Pittsburgh 27 Minnesota 17 I have faith in the Vikings winning at home, but they haven't beat a good team on the road --- yet. I MIGHT even change my mind on this one later in the morning, because Favre is playing so well, and this team learned from last week that hard work CAN pay off, if you are fortunate to get a little luck with it. It also true that this win puts the Vikes in the drivers' seat, so if it's close I think there is actually a good chance the Vikes WIN. I'm sure Pittsburgh sees every win as important, but it might not feel that a win is of such importance as it is to the Vikes. We'll see. Not only did Marty predict the score but it is his fault we lost because he did not change his mind before the game like he has done all season (I believe). Come on Marty! Either you are with us or ... [;)]

John Childress -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 6:22:51 PM)
Lots of folks owe Marty an apology I think had Steelers 27-24

marty -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 7:09:12 PM)
NOBODY owes me an apology. Sorry Mark, I just didn't get the vibe to change on gameday, like I did with SF, GB and Baltimore. Kind of cool getting the score EXACTLY right, not an easy thing, but I wish I could have picked the Vikes to win. I did NOT suspect the game would end up having questions about 'sway' activity. Makes for an interesting matchup next week, the NFL likes that.

John Childress -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (10/25/2009 7:10:42 PM)
Some people owe you an apology not for the Vikings score, but for the way some posters have treated you like crap with little snide remarks about you.

jim -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 9:36:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thomas O. Eliason quote: ORIGINAL: jim Vikings 24 Steelers 30 Favre 23/36 225 2 TDs 1 Int AD 109 yds 1 TD Rice 75 yds 1 TD Shiancoe 52 yds 1 TD Berrian 55 yds Def 3 Sacks 2 TOs Damnit jim ! Those look like stats from a win ! Guess Marty and I were on the same page today. I just didn't feel we would be able to win with the absence of Winfield and our secondary play. I was actually pleasantly surprised we were in the game and should/would have won it if not for a freak play (or 2) and a phantom tripping call.

Dave Odle -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 9:41:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tim Cady quote: ORIGINAL: Dave Odle After further observation, Phillips seems to have some freeze face going on as well. Even so, that 22-year-old chick looks like a roadie from an Aerosmith road tour. (shivers). No way, Aerosmith likes hotties, she has Head East written all over her. You ever see those guys, they still play once in a while and they didn't look good 30 years ago. Whoa, hold on Tim. I said roadie, as in the guys who set up the guitars and the rest of the road crew. You're thinking groupie, buddy!

jim -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 9:52:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jim Vikings 24 Steelers 30 Vikes 17 Steelers 27 Favre 23/36 225 2 TDs 1 Int 34/51 334 0 TD 1 INT AD 109 yds 1 TD 129 yds 1 TD Rice 75 yds 1 TD 136 0 TD Shiancoe 52 yds 1 TD 27 yds 0 TD Berrian 55 yds 18 yds Def 3 Sacks 2 TOs 3 sacks 1 TO

marty -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 10:13:39 PM)
Nice job Jim! JC I didn't notice any more snide comments than usual. When you go out on a limb, or challenge peoples' beliefs, you might get some snide comments. No big deal, and some of the comments might be deserved.

John Childress -> RE: Earth to marty (10/25/2009 10:57:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress ME Green Bay at Cleveland - Packers San Diego at Kansas City - Chargers Indianapolis at St. Louis - Colts Minnesota at Pittsburgh - Steelers New England at Tampa Bay - Pats San Francisco at Houston - Texans Buffalo at Carolina - Panthers NY Jets at Oakland - Jets Atlanta at Dallas - Cowboys Chicago at Cincinnati - Bengals New Orleans at Miami - Saints Arizona at NY Giants - giants Philadelphia at Washington - Eagles Lil John Green Bay at Cleveland - Packers San Diego at Kansas City - Chargers Indianapolis at St. Louis - Colts Minnesota at Pittsburgh - Vikings New England at Tampa Bay - Pats San Francisco at Houston - 49ers Buffalo at Carolina - Panthers NY Jets at Oakland - Jets Atlanta at Dallas - Falcons Chicago at Cincinnati - Bengals New Orleans at Miami - Saints Arizona at NY Giants - Cardinals Philadelphia at Washington - Eagles Dropped 2 games but I managed to beat my son this week for the first time in a month. You guys are lucky we forgot to sign up for the picks pool. My son is pretty darn good normally

marty -> RE: Earth to marty (10/28/2009 9:17:23 PM)
I'm having a bi-polar week. Yesterday, I was ready to surprise you guys, and I was going to post prediction of a Vikings' win, with THE EXACT SCORE, MAKING IT TWO WEEKS IN A ROW. I was going to go with a close score, I know some of you are predicting blowouts. I REALLY want to nail the score, and couldn't hammer out an exact score. Then along comes today, and doubt of a Vikings' victory started creeping in. Why, many reasons. The team with the better DEFENSE usually wins, and right now, without Winfield the Packers have the better defense. I wanted to go with those that believe Peterson will control this game, and will the team to victory, but I'm just not sure. This game would be hard to win, even if it were in Minnesota. The Vikings can afford to lose this one, while it's almost do or die for the Packers. I expect big games for a couple of players ready to explode: GREG JENNINGS and Adrian Peterson. Will the Vikes cover Jennings without Winfield ? I don't know. IF both Winfield and Berrian don't play, I would lean towards the PUKERS winning. The Packers will do a better job of bottling up Rice than the 3 previous opponents. They will key on Rice and that will REALLY slow down the Vikings' offense, unless Harvin has a big day. The Vikes need BERRIAN in there for balance. I expect the Packers will use the same gameplan of NOT letting AP get outside, but at the same time they will blitz A LOT more, and have Kampmann on the line more. I do NOT think Chili will hammer Peterson up the gut enough, he uses variety instead of hammering an opponents' weakness. The Packers will focus on getting the ball in JENNING'S hands and that will be trouble. I think Rodgers will play like a maniac, even BETTER than he did the last time around. Which will is stronger - Favre to beat Ted Thompson or Rodgers to get out of Favre's shadow ? I think this time it will be Rodgers because Favre had SOME of that satisfied with the 1st outing, and because Rodgers will be playing in a place where getting out of the shadow and all the talk of Favre will be to the forefront. I'm NOT set on picking the Packers yet, and might change my mind later in the week. I want to SHOCK THE WORLD and nail 2 games in row with EXACTLY the correct score and the correct team winning. I get the feeling the Packer defense will be creating more turnovers, the Vikings' heart and soul is out with injury, and turnovers will be the difference. I think it is WRONG to think because the Vikes played the Steelers close, they are BETTER than the Packers, and will go and BEAT the Packers on the road because the Packers aren't as good as the Steelers. It is quite possible the Packers go win at Pittsburgh later in the season. Sometimes I think it's WHEN you play a team. Had the Vikes played the Steelers earlier in the year they might have beaten them. After suffering 2 home losses in close games at the end, the Steelers were hungry to pull this one out at the end. The spread: GB by 3 This spread is bothersome to me, should there be any meddling or 'sway' by the officials. The 'SAFE' bet is to take the Vikes and 3 points as they are a 6-1 team that just about beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and many think Favre will will the team to victory to get back at Thompson. To take GB and give up 3 when they alreadly lost to the Vikings, have OL problems, just beat some really poor teams and have lost both times they played a good team, is RISKY. So if any 'sway' is involved, it MIGHT go towards the Pack, as the money is likely to be on the 'SAFE' bet. I think the game should be a pick em or GB by 1. IF the line was Minnesota favored by 4, I would bet on MINNESOTA because so many of the games between these 2 teams have been close, so if there IS any 'sway' involved, then it would probably be officiating that helped MINNESOTA, which would probably lead to them covering the 4.

MarkSP18 -> RE: Earth to marty (10/28/2009 9:23:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I'm having a bi-polar week. Yesterday, I was ready to surprise you guys, and I was going to post prediction of a Vikings' win, with THE EXACT SCORE, MAKING IT TWO WEEKS IN A ROW. I was going to go with a close score, I know some of you are predicting blowouts. I REALLY want to nail the score, and couldn't hammer out an exact score. Then along comes today, and doubt of a Vikings' victory started creeping in. Why, many reasons. The team with the better DEFENSE usually wins, and right now, without Winfield the Packers have the better defense. I wanted to go with those that believe Peterson will control this game, and will the team to victory, but I'm just not sure. This game would be hard to win, even if it were in Minnesota. The Vikings can afford to lose this one, while it's almost do or die for the Packers. I expect big games for a couple of players ready to explode: GREG JENNINGS and Adrian Peterson. Will the Vikes cover Jennings without Winfield ? I don't know. IF both Winfield and Berrian don't play, I would lean towards the PUKERS winning. The Packers will do a better job of bottling up Rice than the 3 previous opponents. They will key on Rice and that will REALLY slow down the Vikings' offense, unless Harvin has a big day. The Vikes need BERRIAN in there for balance. I expect the Packers will use the same gameplan of NOT letting AP get outside, but at the same time they will blitz A LOT more, and have Kampmann on the line more. I do NOT think Chili will hammer Peterson up the gut enough, he uses variety instead of hammering an opponents' weakness. The Packers will focus on getting the ball in JENNING'S hands and that will be trouble. I think Rodgers will play like a maniac, even BETTER than he did the last time around. Which will is stronger - Favre to beat Ted Thompson or Rodgers to get out of Favre's shadow ? I think this time it will be Rodgers because Favre had SOME of that satisfied with the 1st outing, and because Rodgers will be playing in a place where getting out of the shadow and all the talk of Favre will be to the forefront. I'm NOT set on picking the Packers yet, and might change my mind later in the week. I want to SHOCK THE WORLD and nail 2 games in row with EXACTLY the correct score and the correct team winning. I get the feeling the Packer defense will be creating more turnovers, the Vikings' heart and soul is out with injury, and turnovers will be the difference. I think it is WRONG to think because the Vikes played the Steelers close, they are BETTER than the Packers, and will go and BEAT the Packers on the road because the Packers aren't as good as the Steelers. It is quite possible the Packers go win at Pittsburgh later in the season. Sometimes I think it's WHEN you play a team. Had the Vikes played the Steelers earlier in the year they might have beaten them. After suffering 2 home losses in close games at the end, the Steelers were hungry to pull this one out at the end. The spread: GB by 3 This spread is bothersome to me, should there be any meddling or 'sway' by the officials. The 'SAFE' bet is to take the Vikes and 3 points as they are a 6-1 team that just about beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and many think Favre will will the team to victory to get back at Thompson. To take GB and give up 3 when they alreadly lost to the Vikings, have OL problems, just beat some really poor teams and have lost both times they played a good team, is RISKY. So if any 'sway' is involved, it MIGHT go towards the Pack, as the money is likely to be on the 'SAFE' bet. I think the game should be a pick em or GB by 1. IF the line was Minnesota favored by 4, I would bet on MINNESOTA because so many of the games between these 2 teams have been close, so if there IS any 'sway' involved, then it would probably be officiating that helped MINNESOTA, which would probably lead to them covering the 4. Go ahead and pick GB now but be sure to change it before the game please. [;)]

marty -> RE: Earth to marty (10/28/2009 9:49:05 PM)
It's easier to switch when the game is a home game. Looking over this weeks' matchups, I think it's possible that ALL THREE undefeated teams LOSE. You guys saw what Flacco could play like in a close game, and that was ON THE ROAD against the Vikes, he put them in a position to WIN. Although I don't think the Baltimore 2ndary is as good as last year, and they miss their DC, I think if Orton has to make a play late in the game, ED REED will come up big. If it's on offense, I think the Ravens will be more agressive then they were against Minnesota and NOT let it boil down to a kick. They will surprise the Broncos and get a TD. IF Indys' power runner is out (Donald Brown), I think SF could contain Addai and knock them off. There is not a lot of film of Alex Smith playing with the current 49ers roster, and maybe Crabtree has a breakout game. Smith had 3 TDs in one half on the road against Houston. Remember the 49ers gave the Vikes a game while the niners were on the road, and that was with the marginal Shaun Hill. Also, Wayne and Freeney are nicked up. This is the LEAST likely of the 3 to me, but if Indy over-looks the 49ers, they might be in trouble. The Saints COULD lose to Atlanta. It always seems like when a team is rolling and looks unbeatable, THAT is when they LOSE in the NFL. Atlanta is a good team to pull it off because they have the ground game to control the clock, they are probably being over-looked by the Saints, and they have an agressive defense that could slow the Saints down. They also have a QB that might manage the game well, and NOT throw picks into the ballhawking Saints' 2ndary. Right now in my newspaper pool, I'm picking ALL THREE dogs, but that could change, I don't feel all that confident in the 49ers, but the other 2 have a pretty good chance.

kwheats -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 7:29:18 AM)
Vikes 26 Pack 24 with a Jered Allen safety the difference!!! Rogers just takes to long to get rid of the ball

kwheats -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 7:35:28 AM)
Game time weather forcast is for 43 degrees with partly cloudy skies and light winds

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Earth to marty (10/29/2009 9:07:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty It's easier to switch when the game is a home game. Looking over this weeks' matchups, I think it's possible that ALL THREE undefeated teams LOSE. You guys saw what Flacco could play like in a close game, and that was ON THE ROAD against the Vikes, he put them in a position to WIN. Although I don't think the Baltimore 2ndary is as good as last year, and they miss their DC, I think if Orton has to make a play late in the game, ED REED will come up big. If it's on offense, I think the Ravens will be more agressive then they were against Minnesota and NOT let it boil down to a kick. They will surprise the Broncos and get a TD. Denver has the better defense...but Baltimore is a very good team, so it could go either way. quote: IF Indys' power runner is out (Donald Brown), I think SF could contain Addai and knock them off. There is not a lot of film of Alex Smith playing with the current 49ers roster, and maybe Crabtree has a breakout game. Smith had 3 TDs in one half on the road against Houston. Remember the 49ers gave the Vikes a game while the niners were on the road, and that was with the marginal Shaun Hill. Also, Wayne and Freeney are nicked up. This is the LEAST likely of the 3 to me, but if Indy over-looks the 49ers, they might be in trouble. Seriously? Your talking about Peyton Manning getting beat by Alex Smith. Alex Smith had one good half of football. He didn't start the game and so Houston didn't prepare for him. Indy will be prepared for him. Peyton usually doesn't lose to teams like this. quote: The Saints COULD lose to Atlanta. It always seems like when a team is rolling and looks unbeatable, THAT is when they LOSE in the NFL. Atlanta is a good team to pull it off because they have the ground game to control the clock, they are probably being over-looked by the Saints, and they have an agressive defense that could slow the Saints down. They also have a QB that might manage the game well, and NOT throw picks into the ballhawking Saints' 2ndary. Though I agree with a lot of this. NO and ATL are division opponents. Good teams don't overlook division opponents. Any coach in the NFL will tell you that they want to win every game, but the most important ones to win are the divisional games. quote: Right now in my newspaper pool, I'm picking ALL THREE dogs, but that could change, I don't feel all that confident in the 49ers, but the other 2 have a pretty good chance. I would switch on the Falcons too. But that's just me.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 9:08:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kwheats Game time weather forcast is for 43 degrees with partly cloudy skies and light winds A nice cool fall day.

John Childress -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 11:55:07 AM)
I can easily see the Saints losing this week. Atlanta has to win this game or the division is all but over. I also don't think the Saints are going 16-0

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 12:01:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress I can easily see the Saints losing this week. Atlanta has to win this game or the division is all but over. I also don't think the Saints are going 16-0 You using the same logic with the Vikings game? Packers have to win this game or the division is all but over. I don't think the Saints are going to go 16-0 either...but I don't think they overlook the Falcons...which was my point.

John Childress -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 12:03:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress I can easily see the Saints losing this week. Atlanta has to win this game or the division is all but over. I also don't think the Saints are going 16-0 You using the same logic with the Vikings game? Packers have to win this game or the division is all but over. I don't think the Saints are going to go 16-0 either...but I don't think they overlook the Falcons...which was my point. Yes, I am. Both the Packers and Falcons will have their "A" game going because they can't afford to lose. But in both cases it doesn't mean that they will win.

drviking -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 1:18:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress I can easily see the Saints losing this week. Atlanta has to win this game or the division is all but over. I also don't think the Saints are going 16-0 You using the same logic with the Vikings game? Packers have to win this game or the division is all but over. I don't think the Saints are going to go 16-0 either...but I don't think they overlook the Falcons...which was my point. Yes, I am. Both the Packers and Falcons will have their "A" game going because they can't afford to lose. But in both cases it doesn't mean that they will win. this game is WAY more important for the pukers if we win, its a HUGE win, if we lose its an annoying loss

thebigo -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/29/2009 11:13:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kwheats Game time weather forcast is for 43 degrees with partly cloudy skies and light winds A little too cold for California boy.

So.Mn.Fan -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/30/2009 12:01:54 AM)
Sorry, but I gotta do it .... I think a couple others touched on it today. GB needs this game a lot worse than we do. Seeing Jennings interviewed today only re-inforced what I'm afraid of, it IS the Packer SuperBowl. I think we are looking forward to the bye week and once we fall behind early, start shutting it down. I want to be wrong on all of this, but I fear I am not. Turns into a Favre-lovefest by the 4th quarter, all that is left is the final score. GB 34 Vikings 10. But ... doesn't matter in the long run. We still win the division. We laugh last.

jim -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/30/2009 8:35:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress I can easily see the Saints losing this week. Atlanta has to win this game or the division is all but over. I also don't think the Saints are going 16-0 You using the same logic with the Vikings game? Packers have to win this game or the division is all but over. I don't think the Saints are going to go 16-0 either...but I don't think they overlook the Falcons...which was my point. Yes, I am. Both the Packers and Falcons will have their "A" game going because they can't afford to lose. But in both cases it doesn't mean that they will win. this game is WAY more important for the pukers if we win, its a HUGE win, if we lose its an annoying loss Disagree with the annoying loss part. Packers win and there is a big momentum shift and we are tied with them in the division and everything is up for grabs. We win, Packers are fighting for their lives and are two games back, we control our own destiny.

jim -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/30/2009 8:45:24 AM)
Favre seems to perform well during emotional games. After his father passed away, last game vs. Packers, so I would not be surprised if he plays very well this week. He should know the tendencies of the defensive secondary players pretty well and should exploit them. I don't think Capers is all that and I don't think he will dial up anything special against us. If anything, he applies more pressure with blitzing. Hopefully, we have learned how to execute a screen pass this week as I think this would be very effective against GB. This will be a good game but I don't think GB has an answer for our front four and if our secondary can play as well as last week, we should win. We need a healthy dose of AD in both halves.

Steve Lentz -> RE: Earth to Marty (10/30/2009 9:55:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jim Favre seems to perform well during emotional games. After his father passed away, last game vs. Packers, so I would not be surprised if he plays very well this week. He should know the tendencies of the defensive secondary players pretty well and should exploit them. I don't think Capers is all that and I don't think he will dial up anything special against us. If anything, he applies more pressure with blitzing. Hopefully, we have learned how to execute a screen pass this week as I think this would be very effective against GB. This will be a good game but I don't think GB has an answer for our front four and if our secondary can play as well as last week, we should win. We need a healthy dose of AD in both halves. Unfotunately Ad was held in check by the Packers at home. Our Ol will need to really pick up their run blocking.

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