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Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/19/2018 6:37:22 PM)
My gosh. The Caps are gonna Caps this until the end where their season goes so Cap-ish. Up 2-0, on the road....just murdered the 7000 pound gorilla you've been carrying for years and tonight it's ~~~ 2-2 series, 19 seconds in and down 1-0. [:-]

Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/19/2018 6:49:30 PM)
And a non-call that was a penalty and it's 2-0. I thing GB hates DC for some reason. 8 to go in the first and the Ning are on the PP. Gonna be 3 soon, I'm guessing.

Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/19/2018 6:50:20 PM)
although, Holtby has been Dubnyk so far. Can't blame the league on that.

stfrank -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/19/2018 6:57:56 PM)
Just goes to show you need great goaltending to do anything in the playoffs..... Duh-oh tending just doesn't cut it.

Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/19/2018 7:25:05 PM)
Agreed man, and just like that it's over. 3-0 30 seconds in the 2nd.

stfrank -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/21/2018 7:38:29 AM)
Vegas just keeps playing great hockey and moves on. What a great story and a fun team to get behind. I'm sure they're hoping for the Caps and Lightning to go to 7 games and beat each other up deciding who gets to move on and play them.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/21/2018 9:45:20 AM)
Awesome The Jets are done. I'm good with any of the three remaining teams winning it now. As powerful as BuffBuff is, he was brutal the last three games for them, cost them several times. can't reiterate that goalie post enough ... Fleury is the man. you CANNOT win this thing without a GREAT goalie. Hellebuyck is a good goalie. Better than Dubnyk. But not good enough.

TJSweens -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/21/2018 10:21:38 AM)
I'm still fuming over the way the expansion draft was handled. There is no way an expansion team should be in the Stanley Cup finals or the championship series of any sport in its inaugural year.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/21/2018 11:29:05 AM)
Totally agree But i'm moving on, because in BETTMANN land, that's what we do. [X(]

twinsfan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/21/2018 11:50:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I'm still fuming over the way the expansion draft was handled. There is no way an expansion team should be in the Stanley Cup finals or the championship series of any sport in its inaugural year. Agreed. Only in the NHL. Completely delegitimatizes the sport. Why even be a fan of an established franchise if they are just gonna hand over the golden key to a brand new franchise?

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/22/2018 2:49:48 PM)
One of the best games I've ever seen last night INCREDIBLE action, almost every hit was taken and given with respect These are two really really really good teams. Fun to watch a game with all the tension, yet the players were making every play. Tape to tape, great decisions, etc.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/22/2018 3:00:01 PM)
and .... in one of the best games I've ever seen ... no surprise that TJ Oshie was THE MAN most of the night. I used to hate that kid. He's the REAL DEAL Another stupid we-don't-need-him decision on our part last off-season.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/22/2018 7:35:41 PM)
First night without hockey in maybe 10 months I No Likey

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/22/2018 7:36:23 PM)
Our summer league starts in two weeks. [:D]

joejitsu -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/22/2018 7:47:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan First night without hockey in maybe 10 months I No Likey Ha! I feel the same way. I'm watching a movie called Bad Tutor on the Lifetime Movie Network. Please come back, hockey!!!

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 9:09:58 AM)
Not a big one tonight A HUGE one. Love me some Game Sevens.

kevinemmer -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 9:41:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I'm still fuming over the way the expansion draft was handled. There is no way an expansion team should be in the Stanley Cup finals or the championship series of any sport in its inaugural year. Did the NHL change the rules for Vegas in the expansion draft?

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 9:51:48 AM)
Found this interesting regarding that https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/04/18/dont-blame-expansion-draft-rules-for-vegas-success-blame-your-gm/

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 9:53:26 AM)
Back in November, The Athletic’s Michael Russo wrote about the anatomy of the deal that sent Tuch and Haula to Vegas and the thought process for both teams. According to Russo, general manager Chuck Fletcher’s approach was to clear salary cap space (which was necessary) while also protecting his defenseman so he could trade one for forward help. All of that ended up happening. Vegas didn’t take a defenseman, and the Wild eventually traded Marco Scandella and Jason Pominville to the Buffalo Sabres for Marcus Foligno and Tyler Ennis. When combined with losing Haula (who ended up signing for $2.75 million per season) the Wild definitely cleared a lot of salary cap space. They also ended up getting the short-end of the trade-off talent wise when you consider what Haula and Tuch did. Together Foligno and Ennis scored 16 goals this season. Tuch scored 15 on an entry-level contract and Haula scored 29. Here’s where Minnesota is deserving of some criticism: Why wasn’t Haula scoring 29 goals for them? Why didn’t they realize what they had in him, and maybe given themselves a reason to keep him instead of giving him away to protect someone else? Or, perhaps having a trade asset that could have actually brought them something meaningful in return if they had to lose him. Over the past two years Haula was getting third-or and at times fourth-line minutes for the Wild and still scoring 15 goals. On a per-minute basis he was consistently one of their most productive players. Before you write off his 29-goal season this year as a fluke, just look at what he was doing individually during 5-on-5 play. Kind of the same. The big difference this season is that in Vegas he had the opportunity to play 18 minutes per night instead of 12 minutes per night. Keep in mind that last year Minnesota had Haula on their roster and decided it had to trade for Martin Hanzal (giving up first-and second-round draft picks) and then gave him more minutes than Haula over the final 20 regular season games and playoffs. It’s your job as a GM to know what you have. The Wild had Haula and wasted him, then willingly gave him away plus another pretty good young forward.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 9:58:03 AM)
The league can try to defend itself how ever it wants ... One team comes in alone, there's no sharing whats available Current salary statuses are what opened up the best pool of players for an expansion team, EVER These aren't old vets with hoof and mouth disease These were hungry, pissed off players who merely wanted a fresh start And then again ... you get to chose from ALL of them, not half. Vegas's tough times will come now in a couple years, when all of these guys who paid off, expect to get paid off.

David Levine -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 9:59:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan Found this interesting regarding that https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/04/18/dont-blame-expansion-draft-rules-for-vegas-success-blame-your-gm/ That's good stuff. Thanks Scott.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 10:05:08 AM)
As it relates to the Wild, I'm more pissed off than most at the coaches. Yeo and BB BOTH, imo, did not see what they had in Haula or Tuch. They can say all they want, someone was holding back the reins on both of them. Tuch barely got a sniff, even after they'd see his potential in training camps. Haula is the biggest snafu. He DID produce, He DID fit in, he DID put out. But the coaches limited his PT. And his duties. He does it all in Vegas. Anyone with a hockey brain saw that here. He's the ultimate crescent wrench player. He can do any duty IF ALLOWED. Can score Can check Can skate Can defend Can kill penalties Can play power play They treated him here like he was lucky to have a job. It was BULLSHIT right from the start. And most in here saw it early on.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 10:06:33 AM)
Haula has JUMP to his game Its not coachable and its rare. Wild games were different that he was allowed to play in. We all saw it. Tuch is the ultimate watch-out-if-this-guy-gets-it guy.

SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 10:14:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan Found this interesting regarding that https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/04/18/dont-blame-expansion-draft-rules-for-vegas-success-blame-your-gm/ That's good stuff. Thanks Scott. Thanks DL I'm as guilty as anyone of bitching about their good fortune, but I thought that one put the blame where most of it belongs.

David Levine -> RE: General NHL Talk (5/23/2018 10:16:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan As it relates to the Wild, I'm more pissed off than most at the coaches. Yeo and BB BOTH, imo, did not see what they had in Haula or Tuch. They can say all they want, someone was holding back the reins on both of them. Tuch barely got a sniff, even after they'd see his potential in training camps. Haula is the biggest snafu. He DID produce, He DID fit in, he DID put out. But the coaches limited his PT. And his duties. He does it all in Vegas. Anyone with a hockey brain saw that here. He's the ultimate crescent wrench player. He can do any duty IF ALLOWED. Can score Can check Can skate Can defend Can kill penalties Can play power play They treated him here like he was lucky to have a job. It was BULLSHIT right from the start. And most in here saw it early on. That appears to be the case with a lot of the Knights. At least paying attention from the periphery, it seems like a lot of guys finally got chances to play and CRUSHED their career numbers.

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