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SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/21/2012 10:19:33 AM)

Same here
Seem dominant, Yankee like
When they lose, they say nice things, they never cheap shot, they never start stupid stuff
And then return the next year better somehow




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/21/2012 11:07:09 PM)

I have to admit though, and it's probably a byproduct of MN fandom, I hate all teams that are dominant over time.  Call it jealousy or whatever, it's true and I can't/won't hide it.  No order of precedence.  They are normally the teams that sign FA's for 19 cents on the dollar because those guys want a championship.


Hockey:  Det

Football:  Pats, Cowboys and Niners years ago

Baseball:  Spankies, STL

BBall: Lakers, Celtics

CBB:  Puke, NC, KU and Kentucky

WCBB:  Ten and UConn

CFB:  SEC [&:]




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/21/2012 11:09:04 PM)

BTW man, since we've both commented on it numerous times.  SJ out again.  You could knock me over with a feather [&:].   We were the worst team in the league and they muster, what, 5 more games than us.  Unreal the amount of talent they've had over the years and lack of success.   Not sure who's been worse over the past 10 years.  Them or Ottawa. 




Lynn G. -> RE: General NHL (4/22/2012 10:01:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I have to admit though, and it's probably a byproduct of MN fandom, I hate all teams that are dominant over time.  Call it jealousy or whatever, it's true and I can't/won't hide it.  No order of precedence.  They are normally the teams that sign FA's for 19 cents on the dollar because those guys want a championship.


Hockey:  Det

Football:  Pats, Cowboys and Niners years ago

Baseball:  Spankies, STL

BBall: Lakers, Celtics

CBB:  Puke, NC, KU and Kentucky

WCBB:  Ten and UConn

CFB:  SEC [&:]


I totally agree with everything you wrote, except that I'd add the Packers to the football category (more so because of their arrogant fans). I know that part of my reasoning is jealousy, as you said, but I also have a genetic predisposition toward fairness, and it isn't fair that one set of fans - through no fault of their own - don't get to enjoy the bounty of championships that other fans - due to nothing they personally have done - get to enjoy.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/22/2012 9:56:21 PM)

If you reside, or are in, a 6000 mile radius of Vancouver....RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN [:D]


Sweet justice batman.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/23/2012 8:14:58 AM)

Too bad nobody cares. Bettman probably needs someone to talk him down off the ledge.


Vancouver - OUT

Detroit - OUT

Pittsburgh - OUT

[&:][&:][&:][&:]


If Boston goes too will they just cancel the rest of the playoffs altogether??




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/23/2012 8:40:40 AM)

Almost perfect weekend
Only Boston's ot win ruined it
Love what is happening otherwise




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/24/2012 9:26:44 AM)

2 more losses (Boston and the Rags) and this will have been the perfect storm of a first round [8|]




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/25/2012 7:26:56 PM)

Hopin for caps, sens, and panthers, in these game sevens .....bet that doesn't happen tho.
Good to see Zanon getting some fun. Warrior.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/25/2012 8:30:49 PM)

Both the Caps and Bruins are playing tight right now. I expected that out of the Caps, not the Bruins (refuse to call them the "B's").




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/25/2012 9:30:52 PM)

Boston out. Could luck getting coverage from here on out. Anyone got one of those old ass AM radio's with the antennas that are 6 feet tall? We may get radio coverage from Uzbekistan. [:D]


BTW- the guy from the Caps, who scored the winner, sounds awfully familiar.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 7:22:34 AM)

Lots of ex-Wilders still making some hay during th4e playoffs.
Good for Ward ... guy always seemed to work his ass off.
Milbury and Jones were ripping the contract he got during the off-season ..... something like $6mil? [:-]
Not worth that ... until last night in OT.  Now he's worth every penny. [:D]
1 good Game 7 down, 2 to go tonight.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 11:29:47 AM)

This is called living dangerously ...

All 18 of Washington's playoff wins in the last four years have been by a rookie goalie.  [:-]




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 2:31:26 PM)

http://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7858832/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-joel-ward-washington-capitals-not-letting-racist-tweets-ruin-biggest-goal

Really? In 2012? We STILL have to put up with this kind of shit?
It'll never end, will it?
Just never understood it myself. Ward seems to handle it better than I'd expect anyone would. Good for him.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 3:03:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

This is called living dangerously ...

All 18 of Washington's playoff wins in the last four years have been by a rookie goalie.  [:-]




Whatever happened to Huet? They paid a lot for him.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 3:57:38 PM)

He's in the NLA right now, Swiss league.
Last NHL team was Blackhawks.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 6:44:16 PM)

I remember him going to the Hawks for big money (that's what I meant, bad mistake). He got hurt that's all I remember. Guy faded in to oblivion after that it seems.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 6:45:09 PM)

BTW- speaking of ex Caps.


I'm in my 30's but why does it seem like Gonchar was a wily vet when I was 6???




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 11:11:04 PM)

OUTSTANDING night of hockey ... no matter how this one ends .

Loved how the Sens kicked the shit outta the Rangers tonight.
The best team does not always win.
That 5 minute stretch of constant pressure they put on in the third was a thing of beauty.
Not sure I've ever seen that much sustained pressure without a goal at some point.
At least it showed the Rangers they have no right to think they are better than anyone at this point.
Sens earned a lot of respect .. you could see it in the line shake.
Fun third in Fla too.
That Panther top line just buzzes, man. Buzzzzzzzzzz. 




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 11:28:31 PM)

Damn!
Teeeee-o-door gives up a softie for the game-winner.
Fun series. Zidlicky moves on. Dude has moved up into their top pair. [:-]




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 11:30:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

BTW- speaking of ex Caps.


I'm in my 30's but why does it seem like Gonchar was a wily vet when I was 6???


U got that right. Feels like any Gonchar playing yet ... should be the next generation. [:D]
But he played well.
Guy was excellent with the puck, created a lot of chances.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/26/2012 11:50:42 PM)

As usual ... The Sports Guy knocks it out of the park ...


At some point last night, I tweeted that sudden death of Game 7 in hockey was like chain-smoking cigarettes while doing cocaine bumps and sitting on the Lethal Weapon 2 toilet. I have only done one of those three things. I was just guessing. But playoff hockey is a different animal, and when your entire season hinges on a series of bounces, rebounds and deflections that just keep coming and coming, the experience ceases to be entertaining and morphs into something much darker. You don't watch sudden death of a Game 7; you endure it. There's just nothing like it.
Deep down, Capitals fans and Bruins fans knew Game 7 in Boston was probably coming down to overtime. The other six games had been decided by one goal apiece. You didn't exactly need a Magic 8-Ball to figure this baby out. And so Boston's title defense came down to the same excruciating, chew-your-toenails-because-you-have-no-fingernails heart-pounder that the Bruins kept pulling out last spring on the way to their first Cup in 39 years. Sometimes in the playoffs, you reach a certain level when two opponents realize they're relatively even, when neither of them can possibly try any harder … and then, it comes down to hustle and luck. Last night's hasty overtime came down to two rebounds: Boston's Patrice Bergeron missing his chance because of a bouncing puck, then Washington's Joel Ward coming through two minutes later. That's hockey for you. Boston had a slightly better team; Washington had a slightly better goalie. It was a coin flip.
Ahhhhhhh, the goalies. Last spring, Boston's Tim Thomas was lights-out. This spring, he left the lights on two or three times a game. Even if neither of Wednesday night's goals were his fault, he played just poorly enough in the other games to keep the Caps hanging around. As the years pass and memories cloud, people will remember Thomas's goofy White House snub in late January serving as a tipping point of sorts — in other words, the Bruins were heading for a repeat until Thomas screwed up the whole thing.
That's not totally what happened. The Bruins battled the infamous Cup hangover coming out of the gate, dropping seven of their first 10, then ripping off one of the best streaks in franchise history: 24 games, 21 wins, three losses (one by shootout). I can't remember any Bruins team playing like that before. They had me devotedly watching regular-season hockey for the first time since grad school. There was one jaw-dropping stretch before Christmas when they won 6-0 in Philly, beat their archrival Canadiens at home, then topped it off by beating a quality Panthers team 8-0. Eight to nothing! The Bruins were outscoring teams and beating them up. They had three lines who could score, four defensemen you could trust, two goalies averaging fewer than two goals allowed per game … oh, and they could manhandle you. I attended a Kings-Bruins game in March, well after that scorching streak had fizzled out, when the Bruins were so much more physical than the Kings that it almost didn't seem fair. They pounded the Kings in the corners, knocked them around and basically laid the smack down. You would have thought they were winning 10-0 … and looking back, maybe that they barely eked out a 4-2 victory (capped off by a late empty-netter) wasn't the greatest sign.
Just don't blame the White House (and the admittedly kooky Washington symmetry) for Boston's season inadvertently peaking in December. Blame Nathan Horton's season-ending concussion on January 22 — from that point on, Boston's offense just never felt as potent. Blame the upper-body injury that claimed reliable defenseman Adam McQuaid for Round 1, which meant Greg Zanon and Joe Corvo played more than anyone wanted. Blame Bergeron's mystery injury from Game 5, which clearly hampered him in the final two games (and maybe caused him to blow that overtime rebound). Blame backup Tuukka Rask's knee injury putting the season's weight entirely on Thomas (38 years old, by the way). Blame Washington rookie Braden Holtby for harkening the ghost of Steve Penney for two solid weeks. Blame Boston's lousy power play, which disappeared even more egregiously than it did last spring (when it nearly cost them the title). Most of all, blame hockey. This is what happens with defending champs: They kill themselves to win a Cup, celebrate all summer, let down a little, regroup, prove they're great again, and then, it's really up to the whims of the season itself. Sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't.
Quick story: I attended 22 Kings games (and counting) this season and sat directly behind one of the nets. Almost immediately, I found myself becoming fascinated by the quirkiness of goalies. There's something extremely OCD-ish about that position; it's all about sticking to a semi-insane routine, whether it's stretching the same way during the same points of every game, sipping water the same number of times every time, even tapping the goal posts in some creepy order during every break. Maybe facing 35-40 shots a game with forwards repeatedly crashing the net like semitrucks drives you toward the sanctity of those OCD routines. Maybe they're bonkers to begin with. Regardless, it's a fragile position played by seemingly fragile people. People who can't allow themselves to rest for a second.
Well, except for Tim Thomas.
Of all the goalies I caught in person this season, he was the only one who didn't seem flummoxed by the pressure. If anything, he carried himself more like a professional golfer. He barely did any of the OCD stuff, just some easy stretching to stay loose. He conversed with linesmen during breaks and seemed to be genuinely amused by the Ice Girls. Sometimes when he pulled off his mask to grab a drink, he'd stare into our section and check out the fans (with a friendly look on his face, no less). One time, he did something that I never saw any other goalie do — as players fought for the puck on the other end, Thomas rested his right arm on the crossbar and leaned against his own net. For a few seconds, he just hung out and watched the game with us — happily playing the role of "The Guy Who Won Last Year's Cup and Fully Expects to Win Again." The champs were in the house. And acting like it.
Looking back, that moment summed up the season. The Bruins were good and they knew it. They fully expected things to work out their way; that's what happened last year, that's what would happen this year. Of course, the Hockey Gods had other ideas. There's a reason no NHL champ has repeated since the '98 Red Wings; it's hard to be good AND lucky for two straight years. As last night proved, a second straight Cup just wasn't meant to be. My friend Sean Grande summed it up best: “That was a great title defense for the Bruins. They wore the belt well.” And they did.
Last note: After the game abruptly ended, a few idiot Bruins fans tweeted racial slurs because Ward (an African-Canadian) scored the game-winning goal. Those morons don't reflect on the city of Boston, but rather the Internet itself — an occasionally unseemly place with little accountability that willingly courts hateful morons from every corner of the world. Over the years, I have gotten e-mails from "readers" hoping that I'd die in a fire and (fill in any other horrible scenario). I don't even blink when I see that stuff anymore. It's just part of life on the Internet. If you don't believe me, spend an hour reading YouTube comments some time. Just because last night became Boston's spin on the Hateful Idiot Internet Wheel doesn't mean some larger connection needs to be made, even if it may have fit neatly into a once-popular (and increasingly unfair) stereotype of Boston that stopped being true long ago. It's not 1974 any more. Those assholes didn't represent Boston, but rather the underbelly of the Internet itself. There's a difference.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (4/27/2012 6:40:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Eastern Conference

Rangers - Senators
NY has been the best team in hockey for a long period of time this season, imo.
I don't see that changing for at least a round or two.
Rangers in 5
OK, maybe 7 ....

Bruins - Capitals
My upset special.
Why? Because this is the year everyone is OFF the Washington bandwagon.
Capitals in 7
Yeah, baby ...

Panthers - Devils
Oh my, this is a tough one.
Should be gritty and emotional.
Panthers in 6
Well, it was gritty

Penguins - Flyers
Should be a war.
Been a Phlyer believer since this years HBOs Winter Classic series, so I'm sticking with them.
Flyers in 6
Not bad, not bad ...

Western Conference

Canucks - Kings
Hate to admit it, but Vancouver is just damn good again.
LA just doen't have enough, imo.
Canucks in 5
I'm an idiot

Blues - Sharks
The excitement in St Louie has to be fun,
The only time you'll see me pull for Oshie and Backes is during this playoff season, would be good for league to see them go a couple rounds.
Blues in 7
Easier than I thought

Coyotes - Blackhawks
Phoenix is a good example of "it all coming together" for a group that stuck thru some tough times.
They impressed the hell out of me the past couple weeks, while the Blackhawks have looked lost.
Yotes in 7
Close

Predators - Red Wings
Classic new vs old, haves vs nots, unknowns vs dynasty.
Detroits finally been showing some chinks in the armor, they are ripe for picking.
Preds in 7
Wasn't quite as hard as I thought it's be



6-2.
I'll take it.

Will try to get the next rd done before tonight
What a SUPER first rd, tho .... wow, great hockey. Great for the game. Won some fans over. Freaked some people out.
Its all good.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (4/27/2012 9:42:03 AM)

Good for the game for die hards like us. I bet Bettman isn't too happy. Pretty much all of his cash cows got the boot [:D]


The one thing I didn't like was the Torres suspension. Here's the breakdown:

25 games total


1 was because he "left his feet"
1 was because it was Hossa and he got leveled
5 because Shannahan is a self righteous prick who never had a questionable hit in his career
10 because ESPN was horrified, which let the lemmings to also be horrified. Good God, can you imagine if he hit Lebron, Kobe, Durant or Cindy like that? [:-]
8 because Torres is just generally an asshole who deserves to be suspended for 25 for just waking up every day




Corleone -> RE: General NHL (4/27/2012 10:54:59 AM)

Going with St. Louis over Philly for Lord Stanley's Cup.

Although I hope it's St. Louis - Washington. Love rooting for teams with history not named "Canucks" that have never won it...must be my Viking fan leanings.




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