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Troy Newell -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:34:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph Two days and counting.. Get those entries in.. Its weird.. two days to go (more or less), and I still dont really know what the Vikings are going to do at #12, nor do I have any clues about most of those entry questions.. fun times. [&:] What's really funny is most people want the Vikings to take a QB at 12 (myself included) but the NFL has invited 25 players to attend the first night of the draft and only 2 of them are qbs and they are expected to go in the first 5 picks. Are there really only 2 qbs in the top 25 based on BPA? If so, my entry is so screwed!

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:35:36 PM)
Based on most "experts" BPA, yes, that is true.

David Levine -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:39:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Troy Newell quote: ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph Two days and counting.. Get those entries in.. Its weird.. two days to go (more or less), and I still dont really know what the Vikings are going to do at #12, nor do I have any clues about most of those entry questions.. fun times. [&:] What's really funny is most people want the Vikings to take a QB at 12 (myself included) but the NFL has invited 25 players to attend the first night of the draft and only 2 of them are qbs and they are expected to go in the first 5 picks. Are there really only 2 qbs in the top 25 based on BPA? If so, my entry is so screwed! I think the issue is that its VERY likely that more than 2 QBs will be drafted in the Top 25, but its not nearly as clear as to which ones. And the NFL is trying to avoid the Aaron Rodgers/Brady Quinn/any other guy sitting alone in the "stew room".

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:39:32 PM)
Scout's Inc. "top 32" 1. Marcell Dareus DT Alabama 97 2. Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 97 3. Patrick Peterson CB LSU 97 4. A.J. Green WR Georgia 97 5. Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri 96 6. Robert Quinn DE N. Carolina 96 7. Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 96 8. Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson 95 9. Julio Jones WR Alabama 95 10. Tyron Smith OT USC 95 11. Nick Fairley DT Auburn 94 12. J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin 94 13. Aldon Smith DE Missouri 93 14. Corey Liuget DT Illinois 93 15. Muhammad Wilkerson DE Temple 93 16. Cam Newton QB Auburn 93 17. Mike Pouncey C Florida 93 18. Anthony Castonzo OT B.C. 93 19. Cameron Jordan DE California 92 20. Nate Solder OT Colorado 92 21. Mark Ingram RB Alabama 92 22. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin 91 23. Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue 91 24. Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 91 25. Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame 90 26. Jake Locker QB Washington 90 27. Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA 89 28. Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 89 29. Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State 88 30. Aaron Williams CB Texas 88 31. Brooks Reed DE Arizona 87 32. Brandon Harris CB Miami (FL) 87

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:41:10 PM)
"Top 100" Marcell Dareus DT 6'3⅛" 319 Alabama 97 1 1 Von Miller OLB 6'2⅝" 237 Texas A&M 97 1 2 Patrick Peterson CB 6'0¼" 219 LSU 97 1 3 A.J. Green WR 6'3⅝" 211 Georgia 97 1 4 Blaine Gabbert QB 6'4⅜" 234 Missouri 96 1 5 Prince Amukamara CB 6'0" 206 Nebraska 96 2 6 Robert Quinn DE 6'4" 265 North Carolina 96 1 7 Tyron Smith OT 6'5" 307 USC 95 1 8 Julio Jones WR 6'2¾" 220 Alabama 95 2 9 Da'Quan Bowers DE 6'3⅜" 280 Clemson 95 2 10 Nick Fairley DT 6'2⅞" 291 Auburn 94 2 11 J.J. Watt DE 6'5⅜" 290 Wisconsin 94 3 12 Corey Liuget DT 6'2⅛" 298 Illinois 93 3 13 Aldon Smith DE 6'4¼" 263 Missouri 93 4 14 Mike Pouncey OC 6'5" 303 Florida 93 1 15 Cam Newton QB 6'5" 248 Auburn 93 2 16 Muhammad Wilkerson DE 6'4⅛" 315 Temple 93 5 17 Anthony Castonzo OT 6'7" 311 Boston College 93 2 18 Cameron Jordan DE 6'4⅛" 287 California 92 6 19 Nate Solder OT 6'8¼" 319 Colorado 92 3 20 Ryan Kerrigan DE 6'3⅞" 267 Purdue 91 7 21 Gabe Carimi OT 6'7" 314 Wisconsin 91 4 22 Mark Ingram RB 5'9⅛" 215 Alabama 91 1 23 Adrian Clayborn DE 6'2⅝" 281 Iowa 91 8 24 Jake Locker QB 6'2½" 231 Washington 90 3 25 Kyle Rudolph TE 6'6⅛" 259 Notre Dame 90 1 26 Cameron Heyward DE 6'4⅝" 294 Ohio State 89 9 27 Jimmy Smith CB 6'2¼" 211 Colorado 89 3 28 Danny Watkins OG 6'3⅜" 310 Baylor 89 1 29 Brooks Reed DE 6'2½" 263 Arizona 88 10 30 Akeem Ayers OLB 6'2½" 254 UCLA 88 2 31 Aaron Williams CB 5'11⅞" 204 Texas 88 4 32 Stephen Paea DT 6'1¼" 303 Oregon State 88 4 33 Randall Cobb WR 5'10¼" 191 Kentucky 87 3 34 Justin Houston DE 6'2⅞" 270 Georgia 87 11 35 Andy Dalton QB 6'2" 215 TCU 87 4 36 Rahim Moore S 5'11¾" 202 UCLA 87 1 38 Christian Ponder QB 6'2" 229 Florida State 86 5 39 Phil Taylor DT 6'3¼" 334 Baylor 86 5 40 Derek Sherrod OT 6'5⅜" 321 Mississippi State 86 5 41 Ryan Williams RB 5'9⅜" 212 Virginia Tech 86 2 42 Marvin Austin DT 6'1⅝" 309 North Carolina 85 6 43 Marcus Cannon OT 6'5" 358 TCU 84 6 44 Bruce Carter OLB 6'1½" 241 North Carolina 84 3 45 Mikel Leshoure RB 5'11⅝" 227 Illinois 84 3 46 Jurrell Casey DT 6'0⅝" 300 USC 84 7 47 Ryan Mallett QB 6'6¾" 253 Arkansas 83 6 48 Christian Ballard DT 6'3¾" 283 Iowa 83 8 49 Titus Young WR 5'11⅜" 174 Boise State 83 4 50 Allen Bailey DE 6'3" 285 Miami (FL) 82 12 51 Ras-I Dowling CB 6'1⅜" 198 Virginia 82 6 52 Clint Boling OG 6'4⅝" 308 Georgia 82 2 53 Torrey Smith WR 6'0⅞" 204 Maryland 81 5 54 William Rackley OG 6'5" 303 Lehigh 81 3 55 Jabaal Sheard DE 6'2⅞" 264 Pittsburgh 80 13 56 Colin Kaepernick QB 6'4⅝" 233 Nevada 80 7 57 Benjamin Ijalana OT 6'3⅝" 317 Villanova 80 7 58 Jonathan Baldwin WR 6'4⅜" 228 Pittsburgh 80 6 59 Rodney Hudson OC 6'2⅜" 299 Florida State 80 2 60 James Carpenter OG 6'4⅝" 324 Alabama 80 4 61 Johnny Patrick CB 5'10⅝" 191 Louisville 79 7 62 Greg Little WR 6'2½" 231 North Carolina 79 7 63 Kendall Hunter RB 5'7¼" 199 Oklahoma State 79 4 64 Lance Kendricks TE 6'2⅞" 243 Wisconsin 79 2 65 Orlando Franklin OG 6'5½" 316 Miami (FL) 79 5 66 Tandon Doss WR 6'2" 201 Indiana 78 8 67 Daniel Thomas RB 6'0¼" 230 Kansas State 78 5 68 Jarvis Jenkins DT 6'4" 310 Clemson 77 9 69 Leonard Hankerson WR 6'1½" 209 Miami (FL) 77 9 70 Marcus Gilbert OT 6'6⅛" 330 Florida 77 8 71 Joshua Thomas CB 5'10¼" 191 Buffalo 76 8 72 Martez Wilson OLB 6'4" 250 Illinois 76 4 73 Jaiquawn Jarrett S 5'11⅞" 198 Temple 76 2 74 Quan Sturdivant ILB 6'1" 241 North Carolina 76 1 75 Kelvin Sheppard ILB 6'1⅞" 250 LSU 75 2 76 Jerrel Jernigan WR 5'8⅞" 185 Troy 75 10 77 Mason Foster ILB 6'1¼" 245 Washington 74 3 78 Virgil Green TE 6'3⅜" 249 Nevada 74 3 79 Curtis Brown CB 5'11⅝" 185 Texas 74 9 80 John Moffitt OG 6'4¼" 319 Wisconsin 74 6 81 Terrell McClain DT 6'1⅝" 297 South Florida 74 10 82 Gregory Salas WR 6'1⅛" 210 Hawaii 73 11 83 Marcus Gilchrist CB 5'10" 195 Clemson 73 10 84 Johnny White RB 5'9⅞" 209 North Carolina 73 6 85 Sam Acho DE 6'1⅝" 262 Texas 72 14 86 Christopher Carter OLB 6'1½" 241 Fresno State 72 5 87 Ricky Stanzi QB 6'4⅜" 223 Iowa 71 8 88 Dion Lewis RB 5'6⅝" 193 Pittsburgh 71 8 89 Brandon Burton CB 5'11⅝" 190 Utah 71 11 90 Lee Ziemba OT 6'5⅝" 317 Auburn 71 9 91 Edmond Gates WR 5'11¾" 192 Abilene Christian 70 12 92 Shareece Wright CB 5'10⅞" 185 USC 70 12 93 Dontay Moch OLB 6'1⅜" 248 Nevada 70 6 94 Luke Stocker TE 6'4¾" 258 Tennessee 70 4 95 Ahmad Black S 5'9½" 184 Florida 70 3 96 Jeremy Beal DE 6'2¼" 262 Oklahoma 69 15 97 Kenrick Ellis DT 6'4⅞" 346 Hampton 69 11 98 Vincent Brown WR 5'11" 184 San Diego State 69 13 99 Jacquizz Rodgers RB 5'5⅞" 196 Oregon State 69 9 100

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:47:11 PM)
And Kiper's latest big board: Patrick Peterson * CB6-0219 Analysis: An extraordinary athlete, Peterson has 4.3 speed, safety size, good cover skills and a willingness to hit. He's also a big threat in the return game. Last week: No. 1 Von Miller LB6-3246 Analysis: Miller can impact NFL games early in his career as a pass-rushing 3-4 outside linebacker, but he also has coverage skills. Heady, big-time athlete. Last week: No. 2 A.J. Green * WR6-4211 Analysis: Premier wideout in the draft. Good route-runner, great size and hands, good speed (4.48 in Indy). Immediate help. Last week: No. 5 Nick Fairley * DT6-4297 Analysis: After facing some questions about his size, has had great workouts, and the pile of tape is still immense. Versatility and skills imply star potential. Last week: No. 3 Marcell Dareus * DE6-3319 Analysis: Dareus is a gifted penetrator with pass-rush skills to burn and a good motor. Well-liked, scheme-versatile, I like him most as a penetrating 3-4 DE. Last week: No. 4 Da'Quan Bowers * DE6-4277 Analysis: Perhaps draft's most gifted pass-rusher, has big upcoming pro day, with small injury concerns. Potential to go as 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. Star athleticism. Last week: No. 6 Robert Quinn * DE6-4265 Analysis: Great natural pass-rusher, solid athlete, serious motor, high character. Quinn could be an early impact threat. Last week: No. 7 Julio Jones * WR6-3220 Analysis: Very good when healthy. Worked out brilliantly in Indy; ran a 4.39. Some durability concerns, but has maintained high stock all year. Last week: No. 8 Prince Amukamara CB6-0206 Analysis: Great instincts, finds the ball with good awareness and has good hands. Good speed, safety size. Ready to start at corner. Last week: No. 11 Muhammad Wilkerson * DT6-4315 Analysis: Continues gains. Scheme-flexible, disruptive, strong penetrator. Ideal 3-4 DE. Thought he could be top-10 pick next year; in the mix for 2011. Last week: No. 12 Corey Liuget * DT6-2298 Analysis: Reads game well; strong against the run or the pass. Good leverage, disruptive, not elite pass-rusher. Solid workouts. Last week: No. 13 Aldon Smith * OLB6-4263 Analysis: Ideal frame and athleticism to consider for edge in 4-3 or 3-4; still developing but loaded with upside. Athletic enough with size to be versatile. Last week: No. 17 Cameron Jordan DE6-4287 Analysis: Frame and skills capable of handling 3-4 or 4-3 DE duty. Has top athleticism, smarts and speed for DE position. Last week: No. 9 Blaine Gabbert * QB6-4234 Analysis: Strong arm, good accuracy, ideal size and physical skills. An underrated athlete. Had a solid but unspectacular pro day. Will go high. Last week: No. 14 Cam Newton * QB6-5250 Analysis: Big-time physical ability, underrated mechanics and accuracy. Enters a big phase now with individual meetings and workouts. Will face tough questions. Last week: No. 15 Jimmy Smith CB6-2211 Analysis: Excellent size and speed combination, Smith quietly shut down receivers all season. Character concerns overstated in eyes of personnel people. Last week: NR Tyron Smith * OT6-5307 Analysis: A future blindside tackle. Fallen some after a quick rise. Good frame, athleticism and quickness. Has added bulk. Last week: No. 10 J.J. Watt * DE6-5290 Analysis: Has shown athleticism and versatility at full 290 pounds. Great motor, good diagnostic skills. Last week: No. 17 Anthony Castonzo OT6-7306 Analysis: Smart, reliable with solid footwork and has added needed strength and overall bulk to improve leverage. Consistent worker, smart player. Safe pick. Last week: No. 18 Adrian Clayborn DE6-3281 Analysis: Better fit for 4-3 DE. Really good motor; batters O-linemen. Needs to refine rush skills; gets very high marks from those he's gone against. Last week: No. 19 Mark Ingram * RB5-9215 Analysis: Great pad level, explodes from contact, a terror on second level; 40 time not a huge concern for me; top-end speed was never assumed. Last week: No. 20 Nate Solder OT6-8319 Analysis: A physical specimen, has great length and has added bulk to his long frame. Could be moved along offensive line to provide help early in NFL career. Last week: No. 21 Gabe Carimi OT6-7314 Analysis: Monster year of tape, battling a number of high draft picks. Better footwork in 2010; added consistency. Excellent frame; could move along the line. Last week: No. 22 Ryan Kerrigan OLB6-4267 Analysis: Limited physical skills but elite instincts, ball awareness and a TFL machine, even against double-teams. Will hope to shake tweener tag. Last week: No. 23 Jake Locker QB6-3229 Analysis: In eyes of evaluators, rebounded some with good workouts, interviews after combine. Arm, attitude, athleticism all there. Accuracy the question. Last week: No. 25

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:47:51 PM)
Locker appears to be rising amongst the "experts" in the last 2 weeks or so. I bet he ends up going somewhere in the 1st, and the rest last until the 2nd. Should be interesting.

David Levine -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:58:00 PM)
I think we'll see 4 QBs in the first. Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker.

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 1:58:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I think we'll see 4 QBs in the first. Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker. could be. will be interesting.

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 2:42:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Troy Newell quote: ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph Two days and counting.. Get those entries in.. Its weird.. two days to go (more or less), and I still dont really know what the Vikings are going to do at #12, nor do I have any clues about most of those entry questions.. fun times. [&:] What's really funny is most people want the Vikings to take a QB at 12 (myself included) but the NFL has invited 25 players to attend the first night of the draft and only 2 of them are qbs and they are expected to go in the first 5 picks. Are there really only 2 qbs in the top 25 based on BPA? If so, my entry is so screwed! I think the issue is that its VERY likely that more than 2 QBs will be drafted in the Top 25, but its not nearly as clear as to which ones. And the NFL is trying to avoid the Aaron Rodgers/Brady Quinn/any other guy sitting alone in the "stew room". Well, last year, they invited guys to the draft that werent even projected to go in the first round. I think the NFL inviting players to the draft is more so for fan interest, as having guys come out and shake the commissoner's hand in the 2nd or 3rd round creates some sort of viewing interest. And with this particular draft in the midst of the CBA dispute (putting that nicely), its an olive branch to these draft picks, allowing the NFL to show they "care."

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 2:44:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I think we'll see 4 QBs in the first. Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker. Dustin wont like this (for our bet), but Ponder is also pegged to be in the 1st round. Being that Kaepernick and maybe even Dalton could go, its has the potential to be more QB heavy than we think.

thebigo -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 3:25:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I think we'll see 4 QBs in the first. Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker. Dustin wont like this (for our bet), but Ponder is also pegged to be in the 1st round. Being that Kaepernick and maybe even Dalton could go, its has the potential to be more QB heavy than we think. By who? Certainly not by the big guns on ESPN. Most of the pundits I've seen have 3-4 QBs going in the first round, not a one of them had Ponder there. In the bottom half of the round, only Seattle would be considered to have the QB position as a position of need. Are the other teams going to reach for players who are not at a position of need?

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 3:28:32 PM)
Many mock drafts that I've read, including some of those affiliated with the NFL netwrok have Ponder in the first round, ranging from Jacksonville's pick to Seattle. I honestly believe that a run on quarterbacks will start with one pick that gets teams nervous aboutnot getting a signal caller, which may prompt some movement. That run could start with Washington at #10, if they take Locker or even us with taking Lokcer or Mallett at #12.

thebigo -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 3:30:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I think we'll see 4 QBs in the first. Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker. IMO only 1 of those will be drafted in the bottom half of the round.

thebigo -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 3:32:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph Many mock drafts that I've read, including some of those affiliated with the NFL netwrok have Ponder in the first round, ranging from Jacksonville's pick to Seattle. I honestly believe that a run on quarterbacks will start with one pick that gets teams nervous aboutnot getting a signal caller, which may prompt some movement. That run could start with Washington at #10, if they take Locker or even us with taking Lokcer or Mallett at #12. I've not seen those mocks. Not a one. Then again I've seen one silly mock that has us picking Dalton at #12.

David Levine -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 4:34:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I think we'll see 4 QBs in the first. Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker. IMO only 1 of those will be drafted in the bottom half of the round. I agree.

Todd M -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 4:56:19 PM)
#1 Gabbert #3 Newton #8 Dalton #10 Locker #12 Mallett Late first Ponder/Kaepernick <everyone rushes to change their draft challenge entries to 7 QB's)

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/26/2011 5:22:29 PM)
LOL.. just changed mine actually, although I dont think 7 will go (but its possible, if Andy Dalton is picked). Some of these entries are very similar, but no two are completely alike, even with the added entries and changes made to some. Will be exciting to track on Thursday and Friday (if Friday is needed for tiebreaker purposes).

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/27/2011 12:36:24 PM)
Just a reminder.. make sure your draft entry is submitted and/or altered to your liking before the number 1 pick is announced tomorrow night.

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/28/2011 10:28:29 AM)
Its draft day!!!! Gonna definitely be a weird one, without the fact that this thing is 3 days now. I imagine that we'll jump around this and the regular draft thread all day and during the event this weekend. I'll be using this thread exclusively to update folks on the draft challenge so there isnt any confusion. There is still time to submit an entry. Since somebody is gonna win, it would be fun to have any many entries as possible to make it the most fun (and nerve racking for some lol). Good luck if youre already in or are preparing to enter.

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/28/2011 1:35:07 PM)
I'm guessing the big early drama is going to be over Gabbert; either he'll fall to the Titans, or the Redskins will move up to grab him. One or the other.

thebigo -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/28/2011 1:52:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz I'm guessing the big early drama is going to be over Gabbert; either he'll fall to the Titans, or the Redskins will move up to grab him. One or the other. Or something else.

djskillz -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/28/2011 2:13:28 PM)
Been a lot of smoke about the Skins moving up, but it would take next year's picks probably. Or their 2nd this year at least. They have no 3rd or 4th rder this year I believe.

thebigo -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/28/2011 7:15:04 PM)
Which draftee will be the first to blubber like a baby? would have been a good question.

Ian Joseph -> RE: 2011 Draft Prediction Challenge (4/28/2011 7:19:01 PM)
LOL.. maybe next year.. FYI.. there is currently a massive tie for 1st place, with most of the players receving 1 point for the Broncos being the first team to take a defensive player. I expect that tie to be non existant in about an hour.

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