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ewen21 -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 3:36:02 PM)

From a 40 year Giant fan.....Wow guys. That is a tough one. I just hope he is OK




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 3:53:39 PM)

Been worried about those little deer legs since Day One.
Not his fault, but it's always been there.
Hope it's not as serious as it seems for him personally. Good kid. Didn't need this.




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 3:54:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

From a 40 year Giant fan.....Wow guys. That is a tough one. I just hope he is OK

Thanks, but you're a team with huge successes and rings to show it.
You have no idea .......




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:07:29 PM)

Zimmer speaking

Significant knee injury
Undergoing more tests

Non contact




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:10:04 PM)

Mostly upset in camp because Teddys such a nice kid, per Zimmer.
Zimmer making sure we take care of him, but we have to move forward.
Doesn't look good to play this season. Confident in Shaun Hill.
Stressing team.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:10:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Mostly upset in camp because Teddys such a nice kid, per Zimmer.
Zimmer making sure we take care of him, but we have to move forward.
Doesn't look good to play this season. Confident in Shaun Hill.
Stressing team.



Looked so much better Sunday vs Chargers.

Dangit.




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:17:02 PM)

And so it goes.




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:25:54 PM)

Final
Preseason
Practice

You can't make this shit up




Black 47 -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:30:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Something bent in the wrong direction? Maybe something like that Louisville basketball player?

Sounds like thats what happened.




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 4:33:07 PM)

We won in GB last year with 99 yards passing.
Has to kept in mind.




McMurfy -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 5:11:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

We won in GB last year with 99 yards passing.
Has to kept in mind.



Yep.
I like the kid.
Think he has a chance to be really good.

But.

We won a lot of games with less than 200 yards passing and less than 2 TDs passing.

Plenty of guys out there who can do that.

Just need to get one.


Shame on the team for not having a back up plan and yes I'm saying Shaun Hill was no back up plan.


I bring in Geno Smith, Tarvaris Jackson, and Mike Vick for tryouts




MDK -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 5:16:38 PM)

I bring in Joe Mauer for a tryout. God knows he doesn't do anything as a Twin.

This really sucks.

Why does this continually happen to MN sports teams.




Black 47 -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 5:19:07 PM)

Johnny Manziel?




Black 47 -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 5:21:35 PM)

Matt Hasslebeck?




MDK -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 5:23:38 PM)

I still say Mauer......if Tebow can give baseball a try, why can't Joe give football a try. We already know that Joe is a warrior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM




MDK -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 5:27:55 PM)

John Clayton's list of QB options

http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/17425385/nfl-quarterbacks-minnesota-vikings-target-teddy-bridgewater-2016-season-knee-injury

The Minnesota Vikings' Super Bowl hopes crashed Tuesday when quarterback Teddy Bridgewater went down with a "significant" knee injury.

When asked if Bridgewater could miss the season, coach Mike Zimmer said "it doesn't look good right now."



The Minnesota Vikings canceled their practice Tuesday after quarterback Teddy Bridgewater suffered a significant knee injury during a noncontact drill.
If Bridgewater is out for the season, it's going to be tough for the Vikings to get through a 16-game schedule with 36-year-old Shaun Hill at quarterback. The other QB on their roster is Taylor Heinicke, who was an undrafted free agent in 2015. They could also bring back Brad Sorensen, who was cut on Tuesday, but he likely isn't an option to start.

A season-ending injury to Bridgewater would force the Vikings to be aggressive in trying to find a replacement. They would need to bring in someone who could challenge Hill and Heinicke. Here are the quarterbacks I think fit best if Bridgewater is out for a significant time.


1. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers

Forget the controversy about the national anthem. Kaepernick has to be a consideration. San Francisco coach Chip Kelly hasn't named a starter, but Blaine Gabbert appears to have the job, and I'm sure 49ers ownership wouldn't mind unloading Kaepernick. Still, Kaepernick has talent and could be worked into a Norv Turner offense that features the run.


To facilitate such a trade, Kaepernick would either have to restructure his contract or the 49ers would need to kick in money to help the Vikings. Kaepernick's $12.9 million salary is guaranteed, and the Vikings have only $6.2 million of cap room. A fifth-round pick might be all it takes to get the trade done. This might not be a popular move, but I think it's the Vikings' best option.


2. Brandon Weeden, Houston Texans

Turner coached Weeden in 2013 when he was offensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns. Weeden started five games for Turner and played eight. His numbers weren't good. Weeden completed 52.8 percent of passes and had nine touchdowns and nine interceptions. But he does know the system.


3. Christian Ponder, San Francisco 49ers

Ponder was being phased out as the Vikings' starting quarterback when Turner arrived in Minnesota as the offensive coordinator. He had one start and threw 44 passes.


4. Mark Sanchez, Denver Broncos

It's clear the Broncos would like to move him now that Trevor Siemian won the starting job in Denver. At $4.5 million, Sanchez would fit in the Vikings' salary cap. The paths of Turner and Sanchez haven't crossed. The Vikings are going to rely heavily on Adrian Peterson, and Sanchez could manage the offense.


5. Geno Smith, New York Jets

Though this isn't a great option, it is an available option. The Jets could trade him for a low draft choice. Smith, who is 11-18 as a starter, is in his last year of his contract. He has a decent arm, but his career completion percentage is just 57.9.


New Bears backup Brian Hoyer has played for several teams and could be a viable option for the Vikings. AP Photo/Elise Amendola

6. Brian Hoyer, Chicago Bears

Hoyer spent the 2013 season with the Browns when Turner was offensive coordinator. Weeden suffered a thumb injury on September 18. Hoyer filled in and did well. The Browns won all three of his starts, and he completed 59.4 percent of his passes with five touchdowns and three interceptions. An ACL tear ended his season. He's on a cheap, one-year deal with the Bears. Would they part with him? They might hold onto him as insurance for Jay Cutler.


7. Charlie Whitehurst, free agent

Whitehurst spent two years as a backup for Turner when he was with the San Diego Chargers from 2007 through 2009. He didn't get on the field in three seasons. He spent last season with the Titans and Colts.


8. Matt Cassel, Tennessee Titans

Cassel was Bridgewater's backup in 2014. He had three starts and completed 57.7 percent of his passes and had three touchdowns and four interceptions that year. But he wasn't good with the Cowboys last season, and he's down the list of options.


9. EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills

Manuel is in the last year of his contract with the Bills, and they aren't expected to bring him back next season after signing Tyrod Taylor to a contract extension. He has 22 starts on his resume, and a trade would likely cost the Vikings a low draft pick.


10. T.J. Yates, free agent

Yates was cleared to return to the field after recovering from an ACL tear suffered last year. He threw 57 passes with three touchdowns and an interception for the Texans last season. He's 4-3 as a starter in his career.

No Tebow thank heavens. No Manziel.




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 7:15:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

We won in GB last year with 99 yards passing.
Has to kept in mind.



Yep.
I like the kid.
Think he has a chance to be really good.

But.

We won a lot of games with less than 200 yards passing and less than 2 TDs passing.

Plenty of guys out there who can do that.

Just need to get one.


Shame on the team for not having a back up plan and yes I'm saying Shaun Hill was no back up plan.


I bring in Geno Smith, Tarvaris Jackson, and Mike Vick for tryouts

Agree on all Murf
Cassel was a better plan B imo
Should have had a MUCH better plan in place
The chances this might happen were actually pretty good, unfortunately.




SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 7:21:37 PM)

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Statement from Vikings Director of Sports Medicine and Head Athletic Trainer Eric Sugarman on Teddy Bridgewater:

Teddy Bridgewater suffered a non-contact injury today at practice. The injury was quickly identified as a dislocated knee. The injury was stabilized, and he was transported to a nearby hospital for treatment and evaluation. After undergoing an MRI, it was determined that Teddy suffered a complete tear to his ACL and other structural damage. Fortunately, there appears to be no nerve or arterial damage. Surgical repair will be scheduled within the next few days. Although the recovery time will be significant, we expect Teddy to make a full recovery. I would like to thank all of the medical professionals and our athletic training staff for all of their help today. Teddy has already displayed the attitude needed to overcome this injury and attack his rehab.


Best case result, the way it looked ...




bstinger -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 9:14:33 PM)

How does one do that much damage without contact?

I've been worried about his ability to survive significant contact, didn't think he'd dislocate his knee backing away from center. The MN sports curse continues. The D will keep us in most games but not looking forward to Hill at QB. Spielman has been a pretty solid GM, but not having a better backup is going to haunt us I think. We'll see if he can scramble and get someone else in.




Corleone -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 9:24:05 PM)

Just another day in sports hell. [sm=thblowup.gif]




sixthwi -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/30/2016 9:25:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

How does one do that much damage without contact?

I've been worried about his ability to survive significant contact, didn't think he'd dislocate his knee backing away from center. The MN sports curse continues. The D will keep us in most games but not looking forward to Hill at QB. Spielman has been a pretty solid GM, but not having a better backup is going to haunt us I think. We'll see if he can scramble and get someone else in.


I tore my ACL, MCL, and PCL playing rec league football when my cleats got caught in the turf (grass). Doesn't take much somtimes.




TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/31/2016 8:31:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MDK

1. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers

Forget the controversy about the national anthem. Kaepernick has to be a consideration. San Francisco coach Chip Kelly hasn't named a starter, but Blaine Gabbert appears to have the job, and I'm sure 49ers ownership wouldn't mind unloading Kaepernick. Still, Kaepernick has talent and could be worked into a Norv Turner offense that features the run.

To facilitate such a trade, Kaepernick would either have to restructure his contract or the 49ers would need to kick in money to help the Vikings. Kaepernick's $12.9 million salary is guaranteed, and the Vikings have only $6.2 million of cap room. A fifth-round pick might be all it takes to get the trade done. This might not be a popular move, but I think it's the Vikings' best option.



I don't give the furry crack of a rat's ass about Kappernick sitting during the national anthem. It's his right as an American to do so. I just don't want him because he sucks ass. If the Niners cut him then I have no issue bringing him in for a try out. I sure as hell wouldn't give up an asset (no matter how low the pick) and be on the hook for $6.2 million for him.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/31/2016 9:46:18 AM)

Some doc on ESPN says the dislocated knee may never allow TB to get back to the mobility he had. Wow.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/31/2016 9:52:28 AM)

Disaster-control class was in session Tuesday afternoon, via cell phone from upstate New York to suburban Minneapolis. The instructor, Bill Parcells, was reminding the student, Mike Zimmer, what he learned in his long apprenticeship as an NFL assistant, including the four seasons Zimmer worked under Parcells in Dallas a decade ago.
Zimmer and Parcells spoke twice Tuesday—Zimmer considers Parcells the closest thing to a pro football mentor that he has had—for a total of about 20 minutes. The first time was mid-afternoon when Zimmer didn’t know for certain the diagnosis of quarterback Teddy Bridgewater—and the fate of his Super Bowl-contending team, after Bridgewater went down without contact in a simple practice drill in Eden Prairie, Minn. But when they talked later in the afternoon, Zimmer had a pretty good idea that the injury suffered by Bridgewater was season-ending.

“There are situations that won’t allow you to succeed,” Parcells told Zimmer. “I don’t think this is one of them.”
The Vikings announced later Tuesday that the starting quarterback on this rising team suffered a torn ACL to his left knee “and other structural damage.” Bridgewater is out for the year. It will be a challenge for him to return healthy for the 2017 season. For now, the Vikings will troll the league for a veteran backup to support the current veteran backup Shaun Hill, now the starter. Hill will inspire confidence in no one. He’s a career backup, with a 16-18 record as a starter. In four of his past five NFL seasons, he hasn’t started a game. In the one recent year he did start—in St. Louis in 2014—he went 3-5. He is 36. But he’s what Minnesota has.
When I talked to the 75-year-old Parcells on Tuesday night, he replayed the classic no-one’s-going-to-feel-sorry-for-you shtick to me that he relayed to Zimmer a couple hours earlier.

It’s not the first time Parcells has used it with young coaches. It’s a credo he’s believes in strongly, because it’s worked with teams he’s coached.
“I told him, ‘The first thing you need to know is this: Everyone in the organization, and that includes some of the players and the coaches, are going to think they have an excuse now,” Parcells said. “Once the shock is over, probably 48 hours from now, they’re all gonna come to you and look at you and say, ‘What are you gonna do?’ Because you’re charged with winning games now, no matter what you have on your team. You need to figure out what works—what recipe works. And tomorrow morning, once the shock wears off, nobody’s gonna give a s---. It’s his problem. He’s gotta figure out how to win now.”

Parcells said he told Zimmer about his experience when Phil Simms went down for the Giants late in 1990 with a broken foot. Unproven backup Jeff Hostetler took over and led the Giants to an unlikely Super Bowl win over Buffalo.

“I went through this,” Parcells said. “We had a backup quarterback who was unproven, Jeff Hostetler, and I remember vividly hearing all the experts then say, ‘No one’s ever won the Super Bowl with such an unproven guy.’ I said to my players, ‘We are not losing because we’re playing Jeff Hostetler. I guarantee you that.’ There were ways to win those games, and it was up to us to figure them out.
“There are ways to win these games. [Zimmer] has a good running game. You know he can coach defense, and they’ve got a good defense. Al Davis had some great advice for me once, and I told [Zimmer] this: You’re driving the train, and there’s 100 sets of eyes on you from behind. Players, coach, front office. They’re all screaming, ‘You gotta do something! What are you gonna do?’ And you’re going to have to figure it out.”

That’s the big question around Minnesota. With Bridgewater, the Vikings were peers with Green Bay atop the NFC North. What are they now? Who are they now? Zimmer has to wake up this morning and figure out a way to beat Tennessee in 11 days. That’s all that matters.
I asked Parcells: “How do you think Zimmer will respond?”
Parcells said: “Like he is as a man: Resolute. Determined.”
The Vikings seasons depends on it.




TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/31/2016 10:23:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Some doc on ESPN says the dislocated knee may never allow TB to get back to the mobility he had. Wow.


I heard a few orthapedists say that it wll ultimately come down to the degree of cartilage damage.




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