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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Have no confidence in Spielman. He mis-handled the whole season, and still got to drive Frazier under the bus.

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If there's one thing I hope to achieve from sharing this story, it's to make sure that Mike Priefer never holds a coaching position again in the NFL, and ideally never coaches at any level.

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Heard Dubay mention that the Vikings have never hired a coach with previous NFL HC experience.  Had never noticed that before.

Let's change it up. Whis!!!

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-player-until-i-was-fired-by-two-cowards-an-1493208214?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Interesting Kluwe op ed piece. Based on what he wrote, I am embarrassed for and angry at Mike Priefer, and I agree with Kluwe's intention:

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If there's one thing I hope to achieve from sharing this story, it's to make sure that Mike Priefer never holds a coaching position again in the NFL, and ideally never coaches at any level.

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-player-until-i-was-fired-by-two-cowards-an-1493208214?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-player-until-i-was-fired-by-two-cowards-an-1493208214?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Yeeeck.

If Preifer really did everything Kluwe is claiming, (and there are meetings with some players that could possibly back his story up)  then I no only don't want him anywhere near the HC position, I want him gone now.

If Wilf has any nuts and Speilman isn't the coward Kluwe claims him to be, they let that guy go post haste.  This is going to give this team a lot more negative attention than anything since the Love Boat and Whizzenator years.

I believe Wilf wanted to clean up that behavior. 


Damn

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

Where I live ... the dipstick would get elected to ANY office or job, IN A LANDSLIDE ... because of his bigoted opinion. And they'd cloak his bigotry with some usual "he speaks his mind" drivel.  

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

Where I live ... the dipstick would get elected to ANY office or job, IN A LANDSLIDE ... because of his bigoted opinion. And they'd cloak his bigotry with some usual "he speaks his mind" drivel.  

FIRST AMENDMENT, I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT!!!

Yes, you do have the right to make a jackass of yourself.  You do not have the right to not get called out for being a giant jackass, however.  Amazing how many people don't get that concept after they say something idiotic and are called to the carpet for it.

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Ben Goessling ‏@GoesslingESPN
Police also found a small amount of marijuana and drug paraphernalia during Henderson's arrest.

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

Where I live ... the dipstick would get elected to ANY office or job, IN A LANDSLIDE ... because of his bigoted opinion. And they'd cloak his bigotry with some usual "he speaks his mind" drivel.  

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

Where I live ... the dipstick would get elected to ANY office or job, IN A LANDSLIDE ... because of his bigoted opinion. And they'd cloak his bigotry with some usual "he speaks his mind" drivel.  

Same here.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

Where I live ... the dipstick would get elected to ANY office or job, IN A LANDSLIDE ... because of his bigoted opinion. And they'd cloak his bigotry with some usual "he speaks his mind" drivel.  

FIRST AMENDMENT, I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT!!!

Yes, you do have the right to make a jackass of yourself.  You do not have the right to not get called out for being a giant jackass, however.  Amazing how many people don't get that concept after they say something idiotic and are called to the carpet for it.

You, as a lawyer, know this, but the First Amendment protects the rights to people to say what they want (there are limitations to this but still) and NOT FEAR PERSECUTION or PROSECUTION FOR IT FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

It does not protect anyone from saying what they believe and then getting criticized hard by another group for saying it.

It does not protect someone from being fired for saying what they believe.  BUSINESSES don't violate your first amendment rights, because the amendment wasn't meant to protect you from the business.  It's meant to protect you from the government.

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy
Here as well, once I moved out of Portland proper onto some acreage in the country.

JR Rider said it best,

"We can go 40 miles down the road, and they're probably still hanging people from trees."

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Willing-to-back-up-Foles-Vick-expects-to-start-somewhere-in-2014.html

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

Wow.  If half of what he says about Priefer is true -- and I don't know what incentive Kluwe would have to lie -- he should be fired immediately.  Whatever your view of the legality of gay marriage is, that is unacceptable behavior from a manager at any level at any job (and could subject a company to liability as well).  Crazy.

Frankly, I think Spielman might have cut Kluwe from the team regardless, but that's another matter.

I've heard too many people with similar views as Priefer's (if true) to doubt it much at all.

Where I live ... the dipstick would get elected to ANY office or job, IN A LANDSLIDE ... because of his bigoted opinion. And they'd cloak his bigotry with some usual "he speaks his mind" drivel.  

Same here.

Here as well, once I moved out of Portland proper onto some acreage in the country.

JR Rider said it best,

"We can go 40 miles down the road, and they're probably still hanging people from trees."

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Willing-to-back-up-Foles-Vick-expects-to-start-somewhere-in-2014.html

Your bets on whether any of Ponder/Cassell/Freeman are Vikings next year?

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ORIGINAL: sixthwi
Minnesota and Wisconsin have more in common than you guys want to admit.