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CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 7:39:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I think Milone is ready for the big league rotation.


He could replace Santana at any time. A Santana start has become an automatic loss. At least Milone tries and cares. Santana could not care less how he pitches or if the Twins win one of his starts.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 8:05:49 AM)

John Ryan Murphy

last 9 Games
.345/.429/.586
4 2B
1 HR
6 RBI
5/5 K/BB




twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 8:49:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

John Ryan Murphy

last 9 Games
.345/.429/.586
4 2B
1 HR
6 RBI
5/5 K/BB


Watch your back, Centeno.

Don't worry, Suzuki.




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 9:13:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I think Milone is ready for the big league rotation.


He could replace Santana at any time. A Santana start has become an automatic loss. At least Milone tries and cares. Santana could not care less how he pitches or if the Twins win one of his starts.


Bullshit. You have no idea what player cares and what player doesn't.




CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 9:50:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I think Milone is ready for the big league rotation.


He could replace Santana at any time. A Santana start has become an automatic loss. At least Milone tries and cares. Santana could not care less how he pitches or if the Twins win one of his starts.


Bullshit. You have no idea what player cares and what player doesn't.


Well I guess he just sucks then. Nothing changes in his approach. Throw pitches across the plate and let opponent's hit the ball all over the place. Keep repeating the same thing over and over with crappy results. Pitch to impact.




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 10:13:06 AM)

Sucks? I couldn't agree more with you on that one. He is absolutely putrid. He needs Neil Allen to get reinstated and put him through the series of drills he used last year to turn him around. I get where people might think he doesn't care because Santana is stone faced on the mound. You can't tell if he is having his best game or his worst game by his face. Maybe he is better suited to poker.




CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 10:40:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Sucks? I couldn't agree more with you on that one. He is absolutely putrid. He needs Neil Allen to get reinstated and put him through the series of drills he used last year to turn him around. I get where people might think he doesn't care because Santana is stone faced on the mound. You can't tell if he is having his best game or his worst game by his face. Maybe he is better suited to poker.


Santana had a decent stretch of games last season. In 17 starts an even 4.00 ERA, 7 W 5 L, 104 hits allowed in 108 IP (not bad) 82 K, OBA .253 (respectable) and 1.30 WHIP (also respectable). If he had pitched to those stats this season, the Twins would have 5 or 6 more wins during his starts. As it is, the team is looking at an "L" every time he takes the mound.

This season, 5.10 ERA, in 65.1 IP he has allowed 77 hits, OBA .300 (terrible) and a 1.50 WHIP. He is closer to Phil Hughes type numbers. Hughes ERA at 5.95, OBA .315 and 1.51 WHIP.

YIKES! TR sure knows how to pick em' and waste team money spent on veteran players, especially pitchers. As it is, virtually none of the rostered veteran players are having a decent season. Joe Mauer has been respectable, but has not produced 1B type numbers that you would hope for.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/15/2016 4:17:45 PM)

CRapids Wednesday win 2-1, both runs bottom/8th

Kihle 2-3/BB/RBI, Arraez 2-4, Molina 1-4/double/RBI

Nordgren 7IP 3H/2BB/6K
Gibbons 2-3 IP 3H/R/K/HR
Ramirez .2IP H
Theofanopoulos .1IP Save(2) 0-1 IRS




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 7:03:53 AM)

Wednesday

Vargas Grand Slam enough,Roch 4-1 win

Vargas 3-4/double(11)/HR #9, now has 46 rbi's, Rosario 2-3/BB/SB(2) , Murphy 0-2/BB/R, Santana/1-4/R

ALbers 5-1 5.1IP 8H/R/BB/4K
Burnett 1.2IP 2K/0-3 IRS
Wimmers 2IP K / Save(5)


Chatt lost 4-2

Harrison 1-3/RBI, Michael 1-3/triple(5)/R
Just 6 hits

Baxendale 6-7 3IP 89H/3R/BB/K
Fernandez 3IP 3H/R
Melotakis IP BB/2K
Bencomo IP K



FTM 12 hits in 4-2 win

Gordon 3-5/double(11), White 3-4/SOlo HR(1), Perez 2-4/double/R/RBI, Navaretto 2-4

Jorge 7.2IP 6H/R/6K
Peterson 1.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/R/4K/Save(4)




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 7:55:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed



Baxendale 6-7 3IP 89H/3R/BB/K



Sounds like a rough outing...But how he only gave up 3 runs in 3 innings and giving up 89 hits is baffling me...[:D]




sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 12:35:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Wednesday

Vargas Grand Slam enough,Roch 4-1 win

Vargas 3-4/double(11)/HR #9, now has 46 rbi's, Rosario 2-3/BB/SB(2) , Murphy 0-2/BB/R, Santana/1-4/R

ALbers 5-1 5.1IP 8H/R/BB/4K
Burnett 1.2IP 2K/0-3 IRS
Wimmers 2IP K / Save(5)


Chatt lost 4-2

Harrison 1-3/RBI, Michael 1-3/triple(5)/R
Just 6 hits

Baxendale 6-7 3IP 89H/3R/BB/K
Fernandez 3IP 3H/R
Melotakis IP BB/2K
Bencomo IP K



FTM 12 hits in 4-2 win

Gordon 3-5/double(11), White 3-4/SOlo HR(1), Perez 2-4/double/R/RBI, Navaretto 2-4

Jorge 7.2IP 6H/R/6K
Peterson 1.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/R/4K/Save(4)



Is that two games in a row with a walk for Rosario. [:-]




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 12:42:05 PM)

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Is that two games in a row with a walk for Rosario


yes

Not only that, it's 4 walks in the last 5 games at Roch. 2 in a row, none June 12, now 2 in a row again.

He also has six hits in that time frame, w/3 strikeouts

Not surprisingly, his OBP has jumped from .317 to .353




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 12:49:27 PM)

Since going 2-21 in his first 5 G in Rochester, Eddie Rosario has hit .395/.420/.658 (1.078), w/8-2B, 4-HR and 4 BB/9K in 19 games.




sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 12:52:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Since going 2-21 in his first 5 G in Rochester, Eddie Rosario has hit .395/.420/.658 (1.078), w/8-2B, 4-HR and 4 BB/9K in 19 games.


Bring him up now! [:D]

(Only if his swinging rate out of the strike zone has improved significantly)




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 12:54:11 PM)

Roch's ERA as a team is 3.45

And with that lineup, whichis "decent",I honestly think they could win a number of series with the Twins.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 2:00:51 PM)

Polanco 3 R HR for ROch, has driven in all runs in 4-0 lead. Wheeler 5 shutout innings on 66 pitches thus far, 3k's




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 2:01:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Polanco 3 R HR for ROch, has driven in all runs in 4-0 lead. Wheeler 5 shutout innings on 66 pitches thus far, 3k's

But ... he cant help us?




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 2:02:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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Is that two games in a row with a walk for Rosario


yes

Not only that, it's 4 walks in the last 5 games at Roch. 2 in a row, none June 12, now 2 in a row again.

He also has six hits in that time frame, w/3 strikeouts

Not surprisingly, his OBP has jumped from .317 to .353

so ... THATS how that works.




twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 2:03:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Polanco 3 R HR for ROch, has driven in all runs in 4-0 lead. Wheeler 5 shutout innings on 66 pitches thus far, 3k's

But ... he cant help us?

Can't hit outside the city limits of Rochester, NY. Much like when TR told me Johan Santana can't pitch north of Latin America.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 2:43:13 PM)

Watching the innings click by.

Wheeler with the once-round the rotation outing.

So far

7.2IP 4H/R/Bb/7K/HR

[:D][:D]




CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 3:42:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Polanco 3 R HR for ROch, has driven in all runs in 4-0 lead. Wheeler 5 shutout innings on 66 pitches thus far, 3k's


I honestly think the Rochester team would be at least as competitive as the Twins are. The Red Wings pitching staff could not possibly be worse, at least the starting pitching rotation.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/16/2016 3:43:56 PM)

6-2 win for Roch.

Polanco 1-4/3R HR(3)/4RBI, Field 1-4/2R HR(4), Tovar 2-4/BB/R, Santana 2-4/2R/SB(1) (Started in RF), Rosario 1-4/R.

Wheeler 5-1 7.1IP 4H/2R/2BB/7K/HR
Chargois 1.1IP H/2K 1-2 IRS Save(5)




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/17/2016 5:39:09 AM)

Also TH

Chatt combo 3-hit 1-0 win

Just 4 hit. Reginatto 1-3, Granite/Palka/Hicks 1-4

Eades 4-2 7IP 3H/BB/3K
Reed IP BB/K
Hildenberger IP 2K/Save(10)


FTM lost 6-2

White 2-4/double/BB/RBI/SB(2), GOrdon 2-4/BB, Corcino 1-4/double/BB/R, Navaretto 1-4/R

Steele 2-6 6IP 5H/5R/2er/BB/5K/HR
Curtiss IP 3H/R/3K
Landa IP 2BB/2K

CRapids 6-1 winner on combo 4-hitter

Fernandez 1-3/BB/3R HR(4)/2R/4RBI, Kihle 1-3/BB/2R, Arraez 1-4/2RBI

Stashak 4-4 6.2IP 2H/2BB/8K
Lo 2.1IP 0-2 IRS 2H/R/K/HR /Save(1)




CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/17/2016 7:46:08 AM)

Ed, are there any minor league pitching prospects who are close to making the jump to the ML level at least as a tryout? We have seen Berrios and he seems to be over-matched. Kohl Stewart? Wheeler?




MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/17/2016 10:30:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stacey King

John Ryan Murphy

last 9 Games
.345/.429/.586
4 2B
1 HR
6 RBI
5/5 K/BB


Watch your back, Centeno.

Don't worry, Suzuki.


Wouldn't it be nice if once, just once, the Twins realized that veterans are expendable.....trade Suzuki when his trade value his high and go with the younger players.

I really don't think we could do any worse on the win loss side of the ledger.




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