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djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 1:29:17 PM)

Agree, although that's a pretty good jump.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 1:34:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

Agree, although that's a pretty good jump.


They could send him to Eliz and the college SS, Gore, to CR

But splitting time w/Javier seems counter productive

Given what he's doing in the GCL, Lewis is ready for more.



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 1:45:23 PM)

Agree. Good logjam of talent problems to have now. I think we have more high-end MI prospects in the organization right NOW than we had for 30+ years combined.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 1:53:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

Agree. Good logjam of talent problems to have now. I think we have more high-end MI prospects in the organization right NOW than we had for 30+ years combined.


Maybe EVER, overall

Add in the international signing kid, and you have a lot of SS talent.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 2:31:44 PM)

GCL won 13-1

15 hits

Rodriguez 3-4/2doubles/BB/Grand Slam (HR1)/7rbi, Lewis 3-5/2R HR(2)/3R/SB94), De La Torre 3-5/3R/RBI/SB(3), Robles 2-4/BB/2R/2RBi, Alvarez 2-5/R, Baddoo 1-5/BB/2R

Graterol 1-0 5IP H/2BB/4K
Jones 4IP 3H/R/3K/Save(1)



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 2:32:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

Agree. Good logjam of talent problems to have now. I think we have more high-end MI prospects in the organization right NOW than we had for 30+ years combined.


Maybe EVER, overall

Add in the international signing kid, and you have a lot of SS talent.


De La Torre is starting to hit, and is another good SS prospect.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 2:33:34 PM)

CR played a get-away game

Got 1-hit, 3-0. was 1-0 until the 9th

Cavaness had the only hit, 1-4/double

Del Rosario 7-5 6IP 6H/R/2BB/2K/HR
Lombana 2IP H/2K
Cordy IP H/2R/1Er/2BB



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 4:00:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

Agree. Good logjam of talent problems to have now. I think we have more high-end MI prospects in the organization right NOW than we had for 30+ years combined.


Maybe EVER, overall

Add in the international signing kid, and you have a lot of SS talent.


De La Torre is starting to hit, and is another good SS prospect.


Yep. Hopefully we'll be able to turn some of it into more pitching depth in a couple years.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 9:55:27 PM)

Garver is the first Wings catcher to earn IL Batter of the Week since Wilson Ramos in June of 2010.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/10/2017 10:08:45 PM)

Monday night

Roch on AAA all star break

Chatt had 2 hits, lost 3-2
White 1-4/2R HR(5)/E(3)

DRod 3-1 7IP 7H/3R/2BB/K/HR
Clemens IP K


FTM also had 2 hits, but won 1-0 with a run in the 8th

English 1-4/triple/RBI

Poppen 1-0 8IP 5H/BB/4K
Muren IP K/Save(3)\


Eliz,in a wild game walked off in 10, 13-12

Robinson had the winning hit, went 2-3/BB/3R HR(3)/5 RBI, Carrier 3-6/double/2R/2RBI, Rooker 3-3/3BB/3R/RBI, Javier 2-6/triple/BB/2R/RBI/E(5), Albanese 2-5/Bb/R/RBi, Miranda 1-5/BB/2R, Bechtold 1-5/Solo HR(1)

Ynoa 2IP 5H/6R/5ER/5BB/2K
Lasko 3IP 3H/BB/K
Gamez 2IP 5H/5R/2BB/K/HR
Martinez BS/2-0 3IP 2H/R/2K/E(1)



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/11/2017 4:18:37 PM)

2 games on all-star night

GCL Twins lost 5-2

5 hits

Camacho 2-2/2doubles/BB/R, Tapia 1-3/RBI, Rodriguez 1-3/R

Lewis 0-3

Balazovic 0-1 3IP 7H/3R/3BB/K
Cruz 2IP 3H/R/BB/4K/HR
Featherstone 2IP 2BB/2K
Bizzle IP 2H/R/2BB



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/11/2017 9:39:05 PM)

Chattanooga played tonight, lost on 4-run 8th, 4-1

Murphy 1-3/Solo HR(1), Wade 2-3/BB, Gorgon 0-4

Romero 5IP 2H/BB/5K
Eades 2-2 2.1IP H/3R/2ER/3BB/4K
Rosario .2IP BS 3-3 IRS 2H/UER



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/12/2017 12:47:44 PM)

GCL Twins on track. up 5-0

Lewis 2-2 with a walk, 2 steals/2 runs so far.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/12/2017 2:46:55 PM)

GCL Twins hit fest totalled 15,and with 5 walks and 4 errors, they won 14-0

Maldonado 3-4/2doubles/3R HR(1)/2R/4RBI, Lewis 2-4/2BB/3R/2SB(6), Tademo 2-4/double/2Bb/2R/2RBI/E(1), Rodriguez 2-5/RBI, Baddoo 1-5/double/2R/2RBI, Robles 2-6/R, Tapia 1-5/2R


Suniaga 2-0 6IP 2H/6K/E(1)
Schutte 3IP 2BB/2K/Save(2)



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/12/2017 9:21:35 PM)

Eliz scored 5 in the second, won 9-3 Wednesday.

Rooker 1-3/2BB/2R HR(6)/2R/SB(2), Miranda (normally a SS, playing 2nd/3rd/DH) 1-3/BB/Solo HR(4)/2R/2RBI, Montesino 2-4/double/BB/2R/2RBI/SB(1), Contreras 2-4/BB/R/RBi

Gomez 1-0 5.1IP 10H/3R/2ER/4K
Ramirez 3.2IP H/2K/Save(1) 0-2 IRS

DSL Twins won 3-1, now 25-8

FTM rained out

CR lost 2-0, 4 hits, allowed 6. lost to West Michigan who is 59-27 on the year (Tigers affiliate)

Cabbage 2-3/double, Munoz/Morrison 1-3

Carlini 3-7 6IP 6H/2R/5K
McGuff 2IP 2BB/5K



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/12/2017 9:25:16 PM)

At Eliz, some 20 games in E-Twins have 4 guys in double figures for RBI's

Rooker 12, Miranda/Robinson 11/Cabbage(now at CR) 10

36 doubles(3 with 4) 6 triples 24 HRs

Again....several college guys there, that probably should not be. Same at GCL.



kgdabom -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/12/2017 10:02:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Eliz scored 5 in the second, won 9-3 Wednesday.

Rooker 1-3/2BB/2R HR(6)/2R/SB(2), Miranda (normally a SS, playing 2nd/3rd/DH) 1-3/BB/Solo HR(4)/2R/2RBI, Montesino 2-4/double/BB/2R/2RBI/SB(1), Contreras 2-4/BB/R/RBi

Gomez 1-0 5.1IP 10H/3R/2ER/4K
Ramirez 3.2IP H/2K/Save(1) 0-2 IRS

DSL Twins won 3-1, now 25-8

FTM rained out

CR lost 2-0, 4 hits, allowed 6. lost to West Michigan who is 59-27 on the year (Tigers affiliate)

Cabbage 2-3/double, Munoz/Morrison 1-3

Carlini 3-7 6IP 6H/2R/5K
McGuff 2IP 2BB/5K

How long until Rooker is moved up. He is making a mockery of that league.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 6:32:07 AM)

AAA All-star game was won by the PCL 6-4

Rucinski .2IP H

Chattanooga won in 12, 5-3

Wade 2-4/double/BB/2RBi, Wilkins 2-6/double/RBI, Whie 2-6, Perez 2-4/double/BB/R, Gordon 1-5/2R/RBI/2E(18)

Jorge 6IP 5H/2R/1Er/3BB/3K
Fernandez (BS) 1.1IP 2H/R/2BB/K/HR
Van Steensel 1.2IP 0-2 iRS 2H/K
N. Anderson 2-1 2IP 3K
Bard IP H/K/Save(4)



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 6:32:54 AM)

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How long until Rooker is moved up. He is making a mockery of that league.


"Originally"

The plan was to have Rooker in Eliz a week or so. Something altered it.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 9:25:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

AAA All-star game was won by the PCL 6-4

Rucinski .2IP H

Chattanooga won in 12, 5-3

Wade 2-4/double/BB/2RBi, Wilkins 2-6/double/RBI, Whie 2-6, Perez 2-4/double/BB/R, Gordon 1-5/2R/RBI/2E(18)

Jorge 6IP 5H/2R/1Er/3BB/3K
Fernandez (BS) 1.1IP 2H/R/2BB/K/HR
Van Steensel 1.2IP 0-2 iRS 2H/K
N. Anderson 2-1 2IP 3K
Bard IP H/K/Save(4)


It's looking more and more like Gordon will be playing somewhere other than SS in the majors.



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 10:09:45 AM)

I don't agree, Sweens. All the scouting reports (NOT from the Twins) are that he's more than solid there and should stick. He's still very young.

I've probably only seen him a half-dozen times or so, but I think he's a lot better defensive SS than Polanco, for instance. I don't see any issues there longterm. Has all the tools. Others have said it; he doesn't do any one thing exceptionally well, but he does everything above average. Going to be a good pro for a long time IMO.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 10:39:38 AM)

Berardino wrote an article from a veteran non Twins scouts that says the opposite.

A veteran scout who passed through Double-A Chattanooga earlier this season came away convinced Gordon would have to move off the position. Maybe he could end up at second or third base or even try center field, the scout surmised, but there was no way Gordon would be able to handle the varied demands of shortstop in the major leagues.

“You know how the best fielders always seem to get the good hop?” the scout asked. “Watching Gordon, he never seemed to get the good hop. For him, it was always the in-between hop. That’s instincts. That’s footwork. That’s hands.”

The scout shook his head.

“For me, those things just aren’t there when I watch Nick Gordon,” the scout said.

He then compared Gordon to Vielma ...

“When I see Vielma, I see a young Omar Vizquel,” the scout said. “He might not hit much early in his career until he puts on some muscle, but this kid can do incredible things with the glove. It was almost sad watching Gordon try to keep up with him when they were taking grounders together.”

The Twins response is basically that Gordon is not the ideal defensive shortstop, but he is good enough. Defensively he sounds like a slight uptick from Polanco. He may come up at SS, but I doubt he stays there long.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 10:53:57 AM)

Vielma is hitting .230 at AAA. Doesn't bode well to big-league hitting.

Let Gordon work on it. Seems like there are multiple others that will be moving up the ranks too.



kgdabom -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 11:47:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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How long until Rooker is moved up. He is making a mockery of that league.


"Originally"

The plan was to have Rooker in Eliz a week or so. Something altered it.

Any idea WHAT altered it? Sure isn't problems with his hitting. I wouldn't be surprised if he could hit major league pitchers right now.



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/13/2017 11:48:22 AM)

Again, I just disagree. Comparing him to Vielma is unfair, as Vielma is incredibly good defensively. But Gordon is just fine. You know I've always been a big Polanco fan as a player, but watching Polanco come up and Gordon come up is night and day defensively to me.

I think Gordon will stick at SS for us for at least 4-5 years (unless we trade him). By then probably one of the other lower-minors kids with a higher ceiling than him will take over.



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