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Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/24/2014 12:38:50 PM)
Friday Roch 16 hits(14 singles), 4-2 win 2-12 RISP(finished suspended game) Pinto 4-5 Herrmann 3-5, Farris 3-4/2doubles/2R, Hicks 1-4/Sac Fly/RBI Johnson .2IP 2H/R/BB/K Achter 3.1IP 2H/R/BB/3K 0-2 iRS Pryor 1-0 2.2IP H/2BB/3K Oliveros 1.1IP 0-2 IRS H/2BB/2K Tonkin IP K/Save(8) Only 3 hits in the next game, 7-0 loss Farris 2-2 Darnell 6-6 4I 6H/6R/2BB/5K/2HR Guerra 2IP 3H/R/BB/3K NB lost 7-2 5 hits Rodriguez 2-4/double(35)/R/RBI, Waring 2-3/BB Salcedo 2-9 3IP 5H/4R/BB/4K/HR Turpen 3IP 3H/3R/BB/3K O'Rourke 2IP 2BB FTM 10 hits, 5-2 win Mejia 4-5/R/RBI/SB(21),Harrison 1-3/double(31)/BB/2RBI(57), Kanzler 3-4/double/triple/3R/SB(10) Tomshaw 11-5 7IP 2H/2R/4K Peterson IP 2K ZJones IP H/2K/Save(2) Eliz 4 e's in 10-4/loss White 2-4/R/E(1), Kuresa 2-4/BB/R/E(3), Fernandez 2-4/R/RBI, Real 2-5, Vavra 2-4/b/RBI(Assist@2nd) Jorge 6.2IP 6H/3R/6K/HR Booser BS/1-4 IP H/7UER/BB/2K/2E's(3) Irby .1IP H/K 2-2 IRS GCL Twins won in 11, 4-3 Baez 2-4/double/BB/R, Poteete 3-5/double/3RBI Nordgren 4.2IP 10H/3R/K Silva 3.1IP 0-2 IRS 5H/BB/3K Del Rosario 2.2IP 2H/2BB/k Hildenberger 1-4 .1IP 0-2 IRS

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/24/2014 12:41:24 PM)
Pinto at AAA at this point is an absolute joke. .917 OPS. No doubt in my mind he'd be outhitting Suzuki right now at the ML level.

ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/24/2014 12:53:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Pinto at AAA at this point is an absolute joke. .917 OPS. No doubt in my mind he'd be outhitting Suzuki right now at the ML level. Notice how once Suzuki has regressed over the last month offensively. The Twins signed him at precisely the moment when his value was the highest. He will regress back to his career norms and then the Twins will wonder why. All the while Pinto will be frozen out. You can make book on it

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/24/2014 12:55:07 PM)
Yep. Ryan Doumit all over again. They never learn.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/24/2014 12:55:48 PM)
Saturday Roch split 2 more 3-2 win, Herrmann 3-3/2doubles/R/RBI, Florimon 1-3/Solo HR(4) Gilmartin 4.1IP 3H/2R/4BB/4K/HR Hamburger 4-4 1.2IP 0-2 IRS 2BB Tonkin IP H/BB/2K/Save(9) 2-1 loss 4 hits Florimon 1-3/double(16)/RBI, Beresford 1-3/R Vasquez 1-1 7IP 6H/2R/BB/11K/HR NB 10 hits, 6-1 win Michael 2-3/BB/2R, Waring 2-4/double/R, Knudson 2-3/double/BB/R/RBI, Polanco 2-3/2BB/RBI Wheeler 5-4 6IP 3H/R/BB/8K Wimmers 2IP H/2BB/3K Fuller IP BB/2K FTM lost 7-3 Walker 3-4/triple/2R, Kepler 3-4/2doubles/R/RBi, Rodriguez 2-3/RBI Mildren 2-3 4.1IP 9H/6R/2BB/KHermsen 2.2IP 0-1 IRS 4H/R BB Muren IP CRapids 3-zip winner Hu 7-1 6IP 4H/BB/K Gilberts 2IP 2H/2K Reed IP H/K/Save(4) Swim 2-4/RBI, Chrstensen 1-3/R, Vielma/Hinojosa 1-4/R Eliz 11 hits, 9-1 win Kuresa 2-5/double/4RBI(40), Pineda 2-5/3R/2RBI/SB(21), Hurt 2-3/BB/R/RBi, Gordon 1-5/R/RBI, Diemer 1-4/2R/SB(10) Penilla 5-4 6Ip 4H/2R/Bb/5K/HR Clay 2IP 2h/2Bb/5K Burris IP H/2K GCL Twins with a doubleheader sweep 5-2 win Guzman 2-4/R/rBI/SB917), Baez 1-3/R/2SB912), Silva 1-4/R/2RBI Tapia 5-1 5.1Ip 5H/R/5K/E(2) Zazueta 1.2IP 0-1 IRS H/uER/2BB/Save(1) 3-0 win Minier 2-3/double(10)/BB/R/RBI, Silva 2-4, Valera 1-2/triple/R/RBI Tillery 2-3 5.1IP 5H/2K Hildenberger 1.2IP 3K 0-1 IRS Save(9)

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/24/2014 1:02:05 PM)
Michael with a .758 OPS so far in NB. Kepler .802 in the 2nd half in Ft. Myers.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 6:46:39 AM)
Sunday Roch 4 in the bottom of the 8th, won 5-4 Bernier 1-3/double/BB/R/2RBI, Farris 3-4/R/RBI, Ortiz 2-4/Solo HR(8), Colabello 2-4/R, Hicks 1-3/BB/R Duffey 4IP 5H/3R/3BB/3K/HR Oliveros 2IP 3H/BB/2K Thompson 3-3 2IP H/K Pryor IP H/R/HR/Save(2) NB 12-0 win. Combined 4 hitter Dean 8-9 8IP 3H/2BB/3K Johnson IP H/K Wimberly 3-5/double/BB/2R, Polanco 2-4/2BB/2R/RBI, Gonzales 2-4/double/BB/2R/4RBI, Rodriguez 2-4/2R HR(20), Knudson 2-4/2double/BB/2R/RBi, Waring 2-5/double/2R FTM lost 5-2. Just 2 hits Walker 1-2/2BB/Solo HR(25/93RBI's)/Assist @3rd, Hicks 1-4/double(24)/R Baxendale 4-3 4.2IP 8H/5R/BB/3K/WP/2HBP Van Steensel 1.1IP H/K 1-2 IRS Johnson IP H/K Burdi IP K CRapids was out slugged 8-6 Christensen 2-5/2doubles(24)/4RBI(73), Williams 3-3/double/BB/R, Vielma 1-5/double/2R Batts 4.2IP 6H/3R/BB/4K/HR Bixler 2.1IP 0-2 IRS 2H/R/2K Boyd BS/4-4 IP3H/4R/3ER/BB/K/HR Eliz swept a doubleheader 10-4 win, Gordon 4-4/2R/RBI/SB(10), Fernandez 1-4/double/3RBI, Mautner 2-3/double/2R HR(4)/2R/3RBI, Vavra 2-3/2R Curtiss 4IP 8H/3R/2BB/3K Steele 2-1 2IP 2H/R/2K DRod IP 3K 1-0 2in, 2 hits Vavra 1-1/double/BB/RBI(31), Pineda 1-2/BB/R/SB(22) LeBlanc 1-3 5IP 4H/7K Irby 2IP 2H/5K/Save(2)

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 8:18:48 AM)
CRapids clinched a playoff spot despite the loss. Both A level teams are in the post season.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 8:59:01 AM)
Decent start for Gordon. He's now at .296/.333/.366/.700 Would like to see more power and OBP skills, but he is just 18...

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 9:36:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ewen21 quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Pinto at AAA at this point is an absolute joke. .917 OPS. No doubt in my mind he'd be outhitting Suzuki right now at the ML level. Notice how once Suzuki has regressed over the last month offensively. The Twins signed him at precisely the moment when his value was the highest. He will regress back to his career norms and then the Twins will wonder why. All the while Pinto will be frozen out. You can make book on it Hitting for a catcher is gravy. What really matters is how well he frames pitches. (Even if Suzuki is statistically no better than Pinto at that). Anyone notice that while the Twins were getting all those hits and runs on Friday night That Suzuki went 0-6? Even the position player that came into pitch struck him out. Sure glad we gave the Samurai an extention.

Jim Frenette -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 10:28:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Decent start for Gordon. He's now at .296/.333/.366/.700 Would like to see more power and OBP skills, but he is just 18... Twins placed him in the right place even though this is mostly college kids. He held his own

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 10:43:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Decent start for Gordon. He's now at .296/.333/.366/.700 Would like to see more power and OBP skills, but he is just 18... Twins placed him in the right place even though this is mostly college kids. He held his own I think he's going to rise pretty quickly. Obviously not completely comparable, but his dad was in the majors at 20 and his brother was at 23, and he's the best of the 3. LOT of time left for things to happen, but hoping he develops and is ready to be our starting SS by around 2018-19 or so. He'd be 22-23. Fairly rare for a SS, but he's got the talent to do that.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:08:51 PM)
The 2014 Appalachian League All Star Team has been announced. Elizabethton is proud to have the following named: U-INF: Nick Gordon OF: Max Murphy RHP: Felix Jorge Player of the Year: Max Murphy Pitcher of the Year: Felix Jorge Manager of the Year: Ray Smith. 7th time Smith named manager of the year.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:13:07 PM)
Eliz 3 game lead, 5 games to go. GCL Twins are out. Will not make the playoffs. Season ends Thursday. Roch 1 1/2 out of the Wildcard with a week to go NB has won 8 of last 10, 1 over .500, will miss the playoffs FTM and CRapids are in.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:18:17 PM)
Good stuff on our top 20 prospects (BA) from Sickels: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/8/22/6049843/minnesota-twins-top-20-2014-pre-season-prospects-in-review

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:23:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Good stuff on our top 20 prospects (BA) from Sickels: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/8/22/6049843/minnesota-twins-top-20-2014-pre-season-prospects-in-review Not getting the C+ on Santana Vargas, both should be A's, IMO Neither was expected to contribute. I don't give a hang about Vargas' Defense right now. It's a work in progress. Guy can hit. Santana should be an A+, simply for having to go to the bigs and be switched to mostly CF. I'd give Gonsalves a B or A-, he's jumped into A ball, where I felt he should have been at the start of the year. Hu should move into the top 20. Eades is fading to oblivion. I'd grade Polanco and Berrios higher, given they're young guys in an older league.I'd go lower on Stewart and Rosario.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:25:45 PM)
Ed, I think those are his preseason grades on each. He was just looking back and doing a review on each. But the notes allude to where he'll put them next year (in the cases of Vargas/Santana they won't be eligible anymore).

MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:26:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Good stuff on our top 20 prospects (BA) from Sickels: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/8/22/6049843/minnesota-twins-top-20-2014-pre-season-prospects-in-review Not getting the C+ on Santana Vargas, both should be A's, IMO Neither was expected to contribute. I don't give a hang about Vargas' Defense right now. It's a work in progress. Guy can hit. Santana should be an A+, simply for having to go to the bigs and be switched to mostly CF. I'd give Gonsalves a B or A-, he's jumped into A ball, where I felt he should have been at the start of the year. Hu should move into the top 20. Eades is fading to oblivion. I'd grade Polanco and Berrios higher, given they're young guys in an older league.I'd go lower on Stewart and Rosario. Is the grade what was assigned in October 2013 or what is assigned now. If it is the grade of 2013, then they make some sense....but grades of C+ for Santana and Vargas are not valid based on their play at the big league level, especially the grade for Santana who has logged significant PT at the big league level with no sign of letting up in terms of hitting.

MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:27:15 PM)
Dustin beat me to it......didn't have his computer router turned on.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:27:21 PM)
And BTW, I know I've mentioned it before, but anyone who's interested in prospects across the game: John Sickels' site minorleagueball.com is fantastic. And free. Does a really good job of shedding light on what Baseball America is looking at/what they're hearing from scouts etc. And he's a Twins fan to boot. Has been doing a running "mock draft" alongside the Twins' each year for something like 10-15 years now. Fascinating to look back at each year.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:27:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MDK Dustin beat me to it......didn't have his computer router turned on. [;)]

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:31:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz And BTW, I know I've mentioned it before, but anyone who's interested in prospects across the game: John Sickels' site minorleagueball.com is fantastic. And free. Does a really good job of shedding light on what Baseball America is looking at/what they're hearing from scouts etc. And he's a Twins fan to boot. Has been doing a running "mock draft" alongside the Twins' each year for something like 10-15 years now. Fascinating to look back at each year. And what do some of these top prospects have in common, besides talent? The majority of them have played for Dougie baseball.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:32:30 PM)
And he does some really cool retrospectives like this too periodically around MLB: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/8/20/5957231/prospect-retrospective-kurt-suzuki-c-minnesota-twins

MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:33:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz And BTW, I know I've mentioned it before, but anyone who's interested in prospects across the game: John Sickels' site minorleagueball.com is fantastic. And free. Does a really good job of shedding light on what Baseball America is looking at/what they're hearing from scouts etc. And he's a Twins fan to boot. Has been doing a running "mock draft" alongside the Twins' each year for something like 10-15 years now. Fascinating to look back at each year. And what do some of these top prospects have in common, besides talent? The majority of them have played for Dougie baseball. Having Paul Molitor as a coach and Dougie Baseball managing Fort Meyers yet our former MOY will still wear the uni in 2015.[sm=scratch.gif]

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/25/2014 1:34:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MDK quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz And BTW, I know I've mentioned it before, but anyone who's interested in prospects across the game: John Sickels' site minorleagueball.com is fantastic. And free. Does a really good job of shedding light on what Baseball America is looking at/what they're hearing from scouts etc. And he's a Twins fan to boot. Has been doing a running "mock draft" alongside the Twins' each year for something like 10-15 years now. Fascinating to look back at each year. And what do some of these top prospects have in common, besides talent? The majority of them have played for Dougie baseball. Having Paul Molitor as a coach and Dougie Baseball managing Fort Meyers yet our former MOY will still wear the uni in 2015.[sm=scratch.gif] They're all just holding down the fort for Jake, guys. [8\|]

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