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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 1:48:35 PM   
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I'm guessing he only signs it if they have a deal in place for a trade that he likes. If not, he won't sign it IMO.

Can other teams negotiate with a player who hasn't signed the franchise tag? Or does he have to sign it 1st?
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 1:52:17 PM   
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Good question. Not sure but I'm 'guessing' there can be a gentlemen's deal in place with both teams that the player is well aware of so nobody gets screwed. Just a guess though.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 1:56:08 PM   
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Good question. Not sure but I'm 'guessing' there can be a gentlemen's deal in place with both teams that the player is well aware of so nobody gets screwed. Just a guess though.

I'm also guessing the other team will only give up a 3rd rounder at the most for him. Washington doesn't have the leverage to demand the two 1st rounders.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 2:41:01 PM   
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Washington isn’t tagging Cousins..

Crazy talk.

Is Adrian Peterson their new spokesperson?
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 7:43:49 PM   
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Washington isn’t tagging Cousins..

Crazy talk.

Is Adrian Peterson their new spokesperson?


I wouldn't put anything past that bizarre owner they have.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 11:07:41 PM   
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Malcolm Butler for nickelback.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 11:43:57 PM   
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I'm guessing he only signs it if they have a deal in place for a trade that he likes. If not, he won't sign it IMO.


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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 11:46:21 PM   
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I'm guessing he only signs it if they have a deal in place for a trade that he likes. If not, he won't sign it IMO.

Can other teams negotiate with a player who hasn't signed the franchise tag? Or does he have to sign it 1st?


With that teams permission. Cousins is still a Redskin until the new year starts. This is how Alex Smith's new contract is already done.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/4/2018 11:50:37 PM   
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Washington isn’t tagging Cousins..

Crazy talk.

Is Adrian Peterson their new spokesperson?


I think the possibility of that is very low. However they could basically barter his exclusive negotiating rights prior to the franchise window closing. IF Cousins has a specific, preferred team.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 12:01:03 AM   
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Starting to get on the Cousins bandwagon.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 9:45:33 AM   
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Washington isn’t tagging Cousins..

Crazy talk.

Is Adrian Peterson their new spokesperson?


I think the possibility of that is very low. However they could basically barter his exclusive negotiating rights prior to the franchise window closing. IF Cousins has a specific, preferred team.


The only way I could see this happening is if Snyder decides to be a dick over it. Unfortunately, history has shown that is pretty much what he is. The problem for him is that Cousins can turn around and make it just as bad for Snyder.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 9:48:29 AM   
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Snyder won't block anything over him. He's already vilified within that fan base. They just want to move on from Kirk Cousins and never look back. It's crazy how alienating he let that situation get.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 10:11:30 AM   
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Washington isn’t tagging Cousins..

Crazy talk.

Is Adrian Peterson their new spokesperson?


I think the possibility of that is very low. However they could basically barter his exclusive negotiating rights prior to the franchise window closing. IF Cousins has a specific, preferred team.


The only way I could see this happening is if Snyder decides to be a dick over it. Unfortunately, history has shown that is pretty much what he is. The problem for him is that Cousins can turn around and make it just as bad for Snyder.



They traded for then extended Alex Smith. They are not going to tag Cousins unless they really want to handcuff themselves to salary cap hell. It would be as dumb a move as there is.

Cousins is a free agent as of the beginning of March or so.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 10:33:33 AM   
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Would be hilarious if Washington tagged Cousins and then couldn't trade him. It would never happen but ROFLMAO it would be great.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 1:26:48 PM   
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Tight End: Tyler Eifert
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While Matthews had injury concerns, Tyler Eifert will probably make his future team's general manager and head coach give up on sleep altogether.

Hoping the tight end can stay healthy hasn't ended well for a while. He hasn't played a full 16-game season since he entered the league in 2013, and he has missed 41 of a possible 80 regular-season games. Worse, Eifert has been on the field for just 10 games since the beginning of the 2016 campaign.

Over that two-year stretch, he's needed two back surgeries. That's beyond a red flag—being carved up twice often leads to a white flag.

If Eifert were in his early 30s, his career might be winding toward an unfortunate injury-induced conclusion. He'll only be 27 years old when free agency begins, however, which means it's much easier for a team in need of a tight end to talk itself into Eifert, especially since he might be limited to a one-year deal while trying to re-establish his value.

Eifert has proved he can be a red-zone behemoth when healthy by scoring 18 touchdowns during a 21-game stretch during the 2015 and 2016 seasons. He earned a Pro Bowl selection in 2015 with 52 receptions for 615 yards and 13 touchdowns, all while missing three games.

It won't cost much for a team to take the chance he'll return to his 2015 form. If he ends 2018 on injured reserve again, the sting won't last long either.



Projected contract (average annual value): $3 million

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i suspect the annual value to be more like 7 million

YMMV

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 1:31:54 PM   
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Eifert sounds a little like Jeffery with the Bears, injury prone, possibly because he was on a team that knew wasn't going anywhere, and was hoping to get out.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 1:45:29 PM   
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any interest in Josh Gordon?

Vikings seem to have a decent support system for addiction issues

keep him away from the tea, though

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/5/2018 3:16:55 PM   
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I am. We don't have the Norv connection anymore, but still I think he's very talented. Worth an audition during training camp.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 5:19:50 PM   
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I'd kick the tires on Gordon.

Love the idea of looking at Eifert. When healthy, he is a beast. Worth a flyer if his medical record checks out.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 6:20:49 PM   
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Why WOULDN'T the team in DC franchise Cousins? Seems like a no-brainer.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 6:26:50 PM   
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Why WOULDN'T the team in DC franchise Cousins? Seems like a no-brainer.


Because 57M is a lot to spend on the QB position...
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 7:43:20 PM   
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Why WOULDN'T the team in DC franchise Cousins? Seems like a no-brainer.


Because 57M is a lot to spend on the QB position...



Too much risk for too little gain.

All Cousins has to do is not sign the tender until March 14th and Redskins would have to be in cap compliance by that date. Meaning they'd already be over the cap and have to cut or renegotiate contracts just to be in compliance. Not to mention putting them behind the 8 ball with free agents they want to sign.

And all for what? They'll already get a 3rd round compensation pick.

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35547/numerous-obstacles-will-hinder-redskins-ability-to-trade-kirk-cousins

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 9:14:24 PM   
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Why WOULDN'T the team in DC franchise Cousins? Seems like a no-brainer.


Because 57M is a lot to spend on the QB position...



Too much risk for too little gain.

All Cousins has to do is not sign the tender until March 14th and Redskins would have to be in cap compliance by that date. Meaning they'd already be over the cap and have to cut or renegotiate contracts just to be in compliance. Not to mention putting them behind the 8 ball with free agents they want to sign.

And all for what? They'll already get a 3rd round compensation pick.

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35547/numerous-obstacles-will-hinder-redskins-ability-to-trade-kirk-cousins


The Redskins have plenty of cap space to do it. They are set to have $36M in space before any cuts approaching the "new league year". That amount already includes Smith's 21M that won't go on their books until he is offically traded to them in the "new year".

Once the new league year begins on March 14th you can go over the cap. You just have to be back under it by June 1st.

I'm not saying they should do it, just that they wouldn't tie themselves up by doing so.

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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 9:49:41 PM   
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Why WOULDN'T the team in DC franchise Cousins? Seems like a no-brainer.


Because 57M is a lot to spend on the QB position...



Too much risk for too little gain.

All Cousins has to do is not sign the tender until March 14th and Redskins would have to be in cap compliance by that date. Meaning they'd already be over the cap and have to cut or renegotiate contracts just to be in compliance. Not to mention putting them behind the 8 ball with free agents they want to sign.

And all for what? They'll already get a 3rd round compensation pick.

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35547/numerous-obstacles-will-hinder-redskins-ability-to-trade-kirk-cousins


The Redskins have plenty of cap space to do it. They are set to have $36M in space before any cuts approaching the "new league year". That amount already includes Smith's 21M that won't go on their books until he is offically traded to them in the "new year".

Once the new league year begins on March 14th you can go over the cap. You just have to be back under it by June 1st.

I'm not saying they should do it, just that they wouldn't tie themselves up by doing so.



I'm sure Dan Snyder is thinking the same thing.
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RE: 2018 Free Agents - 2/6/2018 9:57:18 PM   
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Why WOULDN'T the team in DC franchise Cousins? Seems like a no-brainer.


Because 57M is a lot to spend on the QB position...



Too much risk for too little gain.

All Cousins has to do is not sign the tender until March 14th and Redskins would have to be in cap compliance by that date. Meaning they'd already be over the cap and have to cut or renegotiate contracts just to be in compliance. Not to mention putting them behind the 8 ball with free agents they want to sign.

And all for what? They'll already get a 3rd round compensation pick.

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35547/numerous-obstacles-will-hinder-redskins-ability-to-trade-kirk-cousins


The Redskins have plenty of cap space to do it. They are set to have $36M in space before any cuts approaching the "new league year". That amount already includes Smith's 21M that won't go on their books until he is offically traded to them in the "new year".

Once the new league year begins on March 14th you can go over the cap. You just have to be back under it by June 1st.

I'm not saying they should do it, just that they wouldn't tie themselves up by doing so.


They have 18 other free agents besides Cousins that they might want to try and re-sign.

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