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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 10:26:17 AM   
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My neighbor once tackled Marcus Allen after he had scored a touchdown and started punching him. Marcus Allen then got up and helped my neighbor up.

Marcus Allen is my biggest regret all time on not drafting a guy. We passed him over for Darren Nelson..."Who would be better on turf". I was just shocked at the selection at the time.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 10:42:58 AM   
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My neighbor once tackled Marcus Allen after he had scored a touchdown and started punching him. Marcus Allen then got up and helped my neighbor up.

Marcus Allen is my biggest regret all time on not drafting a guy. We passed him over for Darren Nelson..."Who would be better on turf". I was just shocked at the selection at the time.


Dang Denny's Stanford bias----I think Denny just hated USC. They Anti-Brad have you....

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 10:47:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DeLain

My neighbor once tackled Marcus Allen after he had scored a touchdown and started punching him. Marcus Allen then got up and helped my neighbor up.

Marcus Allen is my biggest regret all time on not drafting a guy. We passed him over for Darren Nelson..."Who would be better on turf". I was just shocked at the selection at the time.


Dang Denny's Stanford bias----I think Denny just hated USC. They Anti-Brad have you....

Who made that call? Mike (Herschel) Lynn?
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 10:53:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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My neighbor once tackled Marcus Allen after he had scored a touchdown and started punching him. Marcus Allen then got up and helped my neighbor up.

Marcus Allen is my biggest regret all time on not drafting a guy. We passed him over for Darren Nelson..."Who would be better on turf". I was just shocked at the selection at the time.


Dang Denny's Stanford bias----I think Denny just hated USC. They Anti-Brad have you....

Who made that call? Mike (Herschel) Lynn?



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Like Phil said....there was a lot of bias...
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 11:10:41 AM   
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So Denny ran our draft while he was head coach at Northwestern?
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 11:25:31 AM   
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So Denny ran our draft while he was head coach at Northwestern?



That was just a reminder from the old days posting at the Strib. Denny did not once draft a guy from USC when he might have should. He drafted a few Stanford guys.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/18/2018 12:53:12 PM   
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My neighbor once tackled Marcus Allen after he had scored a touchdown and started punching him. Marcus Allen then got up and helped my neighbor up.

Marcus Allen is my biggest regret all time on not drafting a guy. We passed him over for Darren Nelson..."Who would be better on turf". I was just shocked at the selection at the time.



I’ve been pissed off about that, off and on, for years.

Would have made more sense if Nelson had not have been a midget.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/20/2018 7:22:56 PM   
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https://nflspinzone.com/2018/05/02/minnesota-vikings-2018-nfl-draft-redo/

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/20/2018 7:26:16 PM   
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https://nflspinzone.com/2018/04/29/minnesota-vikings-grading-every-2018-nfl-draft-pick/

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/21/2018 2:51:28 PM   
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https://zonecoverage.com/2018/vikings/crunching-the-numbers-the-analytics-behind-the-udfas/ (By Arif)

I read somewhere that the Vikings paid a lot of money for wide receiver, Korey Robertson. Based on that, he might be someone to watch in the camps.

It's interesting to read about Mike Boone on what he did well (I mean he really did well in the broad jump) and what he didn't do well, which are actually specifically critical for the running backs.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/21/2018 7:21:44 PM   
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https://nflspinzone.com/2018/05/02/minnesota-vikings-2018-nfl-draft-redo/


I agree with a lot of this article.

Frankly, it's easier to get excited about our UDFA's than our draft picks.

Hernandez or Daniels at 30 and I would have been a happy camper....

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/21/2018 10:12:36 PM   
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https://nflspinzone.com/2018/05/02/minnesota-vikings-2018-nfl-draft-redo/


I agree with a lot of this article.

Frankly, it's easier to get excited about our UDFA's than our draft picks.

Hernandez or Daniels at 30 and I would have been a happy camper....

I too would have been happier with Daniels or Hernandez at 30 and the best available CB at 62. However, O'neill actually only gave up one sack all year playing against some pretty good competition like Chubb.
Hopefully he can play well enough to make us forget about Hernandez and Daniels.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 5/26/2018 3:52:50 PM   
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Just thinking about our second round draft pick. Connor Williams was a possible OT, but he may wind up playing at guard. I don't know. If you don't count on him, you have to go back to Isaiah Wynn 38 draft picks earlier than O'Neil where an OT was taken, but again Wynn may wind up at guard, as well. Yes, there was a run on offensive linemen in the first and early second round, but these were guards. I'm just thinking that I'm grateful that O'Neil was still there, because if he wasn't there, then the next o-lineman to go was Parker who was considered to be a real project. It really could have been worse. O'Neil does seem to have size and frame to be a true OT. True, he needs to develop his strength, but that's something that's easily achievable. If he had been already strong, clearly he would have gone earlier and possibly in the first round. It's that hard to find a true OT. Just think about it. The OT before Wynn was Kolton Miller who was taken at pick #15. Would you rather have Miller at #15 or O'Neil at #62. I'll take O'Neil, thank you.

I'm not sure yet what the impact will be on the rule changes for the kickoff, but the selection of Hughes just might be huge. He was rated by Priefer as the number one return man available in the draft. I know that some of us are down on the selection of the corner in the first round, but it could be a bit of an under the radar impact on our 2018 team. I always have thought that special teams are underrated- that they are more significant than most realize.

Of course we selected a kicker in the draft. He's definitely a special teamer. With his big leg, not only he's going to prevent the opposition from returning kicks, but I believe he may prevent injuries, as well. That's another under the radar kind of move, I believe. Forbath has been actually pretty good as a field goal kicker, fair at best as an extra point kicker, but also he lacked the leg to kick the ball out of the end zone. With our defense, it's nice to make the opposition go a whole 75 yards in order to score a touchdown and with kickoffs not being returned, it might indirectly help keep the defense a little fresher at the end of the games.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/20/2018 3:57:25 PM   
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This guy slipped under my radar. He sounds like an interesting prospect. There's even speculation that he could start after looking good in practice. 6' 2" and a 4.4 40? Whoa!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.burntorangenation.com/platform/amp/2018/6/4/17420800/minnesota-vikings-former-texas-longhorns-holton-hill-starter-ability

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/20/2018 4:29:48 PM   
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This guy slipped under my radar. He sounds like an interesting prospect. There's even speculation that he could start after looking good in practice. 6' 2" and a 4.4 40? Whoa!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.burntorangenation.com/platform/amp/2018/6/4/17420800/minnesota-vikings-former-texas-longhorns-holton-hill-starter-ability


If you are Marcus Sherels you're not happy with the Vikings draft picking up Mike Hughes. Sherels made the team based on special teams and he is really good,there, but he's questionable as a corner. If Hughes works out with the return duties, then Sherels will be gone and our depth at corner will appreciate measurably. Then the Vikings picked up Hill.

In my opinion, Hill is a lock to be a roster player. After giving him the largest signing bonus in franchise history to a non drafted player, they will not release him with hopes to make it to the practice squad. Therefore, Alexander has to be really nervous. It could be between him and Newman, I believe. Will the Vikings keep six corners? Maybe, but maybe not.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/20/2018 5:23:24 PM   
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They'll keep six corners. No reason not to.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 8:20:51 AM   
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If Sherels is cut he won't be unemployed long

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 8:32:13 AM   
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They'll keep six corners. No reason not to.


It must be that I'm getting old because I can't remember who the 6th corner was last year. Who was that player?

Both Alexander and Newman do not excel on special teams. It's possible they keep them both though, especially if Newman is considered to be an extra safety. We are definitely adding two rookies to the team. I bet Hill will be a stud on special teams.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 8:47:38 AM   
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They'll keep six corners. No reason not to.


It must be that I'm getting old because I can't remember who the 6th corner was last year. Who was that player?

Both Alexander and Newman do not excel on special teams. It's possible they keep them both though, especially if Newman is considered to be an extra safety. We are definitely adding two rookies to the team. I bet Hill will be a stud on special teams.


Rhodes
Waynes
Newman
Alexander
Price
Sherels

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 8:59:08 AM   
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Well one of them has to go, right?

Rhodes
Waynes
Alexander
Hughes

Then 2 of 3 between

Hill
Sherels
Newman

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 9:03:56 AM   
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If Hughes shows to be a good return man, Sherels is out.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 9:05:01 AM   
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If Hughes shows to be a good return man, Sherels is out.


Sherels is also a top gunner, so Hughes had best be good at that too.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 10:41:11 AM   
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If Hughes shows to be a good return man, Sherels is out.


Sherels is also a top gunner, so Hughes had best be good at that too.


Well, that's a Hill problem. I dont know that Hughes will be used in that way.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 10:52:06 AM   
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If Hughes is a solid return guy Sherels is out. It's as simple as that.

But he better be sure handed. We know he has wheels and can take it to the house but any fumbles or muffed punts in PS will give Zim pause.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 7/21/2018 1:02:20 PM   
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They'll keep six corners. No reason not to.


It must be that I'm getting old because I can't remember who the 6th corner was last year. Who was that player?

Both Alexander and Newman do not excel on special teams. It's possible they keep them both though, especially if Newman is considered to be an extra safety. We are definitely adding two rookies to the team. I bet Hill will be a stud on special teams.


Rhodes
Waynes
Newman
Alexander
Price
Sherels


Sorry, but Price not on last year's team. He was released on Sept 2nd.

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