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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/7/2018 11:33:23 PM   
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Wow Hopkins OT run after the catch was Amazing.


Always nice to see the Conboys lose.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/8/2018 7:38:48 AM   
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Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 10:42:01 AM   
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Should be a great one this weekend when the Pats and Chiefs meet
Hoping to see some great football, and none of the other usual peripheral bullshit.
One great proven group meeting one unproven rising team.

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 10:46:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 10:48:40 AM   
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Not "everybody"
Which was my point
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 2:50:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.


Are you a Sean McVay, or are you a Frank Reich?
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 7:46:58 PM   
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Jason Peters looks done

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 9:39:47 PM   
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Giants might have the worst O-Line I've ever seen.

Even when Manning has time, he looks cooked.

Barkley is the real deal. He's amazing.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 10:07:41 PM   
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Giants might have the worst O-Line I've ever seen.

Even when Manning has time, he looks cooked.

Barkley is the real deal. He's amazing.



Man a couple of those runs were unreal.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 10:38:40 PM   
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Giants might have the worst O-Line I've ever seen.

Even when Manning has time, he looks cooked.

Barkley is the real deal. He's amazing.



Man a couple of those runs were unreal.


Vision, power, change of direction and speed.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/11/2018 11:09:50 PM   
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Barkley is good but tonight shows how low on the pole a RB is.

I would take a QB, 2 or 3 OL, DE, corners, and WR before I even thought about a RB.

Just doesn’t matter in today’s NFL.

Giants screwed the franchise by not drafting a QB last April.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 5:33:39 AM   
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Giants might have the worst O-Line I've ever seen.

Even when Manning has time, he looks cooked.

Barkley is the real deal. He's amazing.

Easy pre-season prediction for ROY.
Got some Sanders in him with more speed.

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 8:04:50 AM   
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2 Eagle defenders took bad angles on Barkley and boom 50 yard td run

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 11:17:20 AM   
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Barkley is good but tonight shows how low on the pole a RB is.

I would take a QB, 2 or 3 OL, DE, corners, and WR before I even thought about a RB.

Just doesn’t matter in today’s NFL.

Giants screwed the franchise by not drafting a QB last April.


They might have the first overall pick next draft.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 11:18:51 AM   
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Jason Peters looks done


Maybe, he is playing injured
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 11:20:03 AM   
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Barkley is good but tonight shows how low on the pole a RB is.

I would take a QB, 2 or 3 OL, DE, corners, and WR before I even thought about a RB.

Just doesn’t matter in today’s NFL.

Giants screwed the franchise by not drafting a QB last April.


Really, they should have drafted an OL in the first round... oh wait...
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 11:38:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.


But if they punt and the other team scores and wins that's just fine because it's conventional?

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 12:32:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.


But if they punt and the other team scores and wins that's just fine because it's conventional?


If they punt they make the other team drive a lot farther, use timeouts if they have any left, and get into postion to win. If they go for it and fail the other team is nearly in FG range already. I take my chances that my defense can keep them out of FG range from a longer distance. Probability is higher that way.

It was a gutsy move by McVay, I'm not against it. but I wouldn't make it a habit as it will lead to more losses in the long run. If it becomes the norm Defenses will be prepared for it.

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/12/2018 6:49:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.


But if they punt and the other team scores and wins that's just fine because it's conventional?


If they punt they make the other team drive a lot farther, use timeouts if they have any left, and get into postion to win. If they go for it and fail the other team is nearly in FG range already. I take my chances that my defense can keep them out of FG range from a longer distance. Probability is higher that way.

It was a gutsy move by McVay, I'm not against it. but I wouldn't make it a habit as it will lead to more losses in the long run. If it becomes the norm Defenses will be prepared for it.


I have no numbers but it sure seems easy for teams to drive the field to get into scoring position with anything around a minute anymore. I'd go for it more than punt it.

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/14/2018 7:35:35 PM   
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Mahomes is a little overhyped to start this one.

Overthrew two pretty easy TDs.
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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/14/2018 9:38:54 PM   
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why did KC kick the extra point instead of going for 2?

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/14/2018 10:19:32 PM   
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i was kc to win so pats are pissed playing the bears next week

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/15/2018 9:24:55 AM   
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Jason Peters looks done


Maybe, he is playing injured

They pulled him out of the game so he must be knicked up

I think he was out all of last season with a torn ACL

He is 36

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/15/2018 11:21:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.


But if they punt and the other team scores and wins that's just fine because it's conventional?


If they punt they make the other team drive a lot farther, use timeouts if they have any left, and get into postion to win. If they go for it and fail the other team is nearly in FG range already. I take my chances that my defense can keep them out of FG range from a longer distance. Probability is higher that way.

It was a gutsy move by McVay, I'm not against it. but I wouldn't make it a habit as it will lead to more losses in the long run. If it becomes the norm Defenses will be prepared for it.



FWIW. Peter King has added a section on analytics.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/15/patriots-chiefs-tom-brady-nfl-fmia-week-6-peter-king/

• Week 5, Seahawks at Rams, Los Angeles ball, fourth-and-one (actually fourth-and-a-foot, but PFF doesn’t account for feet or inches—only yards) at their own 42, fourth quarter, 1:39 left, Rams up 33-31. Conversion percentage: 78.2 percent. Chance of winning if they convert: 99.9 percent. (They’d simply run out the clock.) Here’s the key, and it’s why—even though I wrote last week about what a smart call it was by Sean McVay—that it actually was overwhelmingly the smart call by McVay to go for it even if the play failed: The Rams’ chance to win the game was still 59.7 percent if they didn’t convert and handed the ball back to Seattle with no timeouts left and a questionable kicker in Janikowski (who’d made six of nine this year at that point). In other words, PFF still believed it was more likely than not that handing the ball back to Russell Wilson on a short field would have resulted in a Rams win.

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RE: Other Games 2018-19 - 10/15/2018 12:48:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Love seeing young coaches do things out of the norm
The Rams are this year's Eagles
Going for it, to run the clock out. How innovative. Players love that.
The game itself needs a lot more of this thinking.
I could imagine old-timers all over the country having heart attacks during that final sequence. Loved it. Hoping for more of it.



It was a smart and cool decision because it worked. If it failed it very well could have cost the Rams the game. and everybody would be wondering wtf McVay was thinking.

There is a very fine line between courage and insanity.


But if they punt and the other team scores and wins that's just fine because it's conventional?


If they punt they make the other team drive a lot farther, use timeouts if they have any left, and get into postion to win. If they go for it and fail the other team is nearly in FG range already. I take my chances that my defense can keep them out of FG range from a longer distance. Probability is higher that way.

It was a gutsy move by McVay, I'm not against it. but I wouldn't make it a habit as it will lead to more losses in the long run. If it becomes the norm Defenses will be prepared for it.



FWIW. Peter King has added a section on analytics.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/15/patriots-chiefs-tom-brady-nfl-fmia-week-6-peter-king/

• Week 5, Seahawks at Rams, Los Angeles ball, fourth-and-one (actually fourth-and-a-foot, but PFF doesn’t account for feet or inches—only yards) at their own 42, fourth quarter, 1:39 left, Rams up 33-31. Conversion percentage: 78.2 percent. Chance of winning if they convert: 99.9 percent. (They’d simply run out the clock.) Here’s the key, and it’s why—even though I wrote last week about what a smart call it was by Sean McVay—that it actually was overwhelmingly the smart call by McVay to go for it even if the play failed: The Rams’ chance to win the game was still 59.7 percent if they didn’t convert and handed the ball back to Seattle with no timeouts left and a questionable kicker in Janikowski (who’d made six of nine this year at that point). In other words, PFF still believed it was more likely than not that handing the ball back to Russell Wilson on a short field would have resulted in a Rams win.


The win percentage probability drops over 40% if the play fails...

And what the analytics are saying is that McVay may appear gutsy when in reality it took no guts at all to call that play....None. It would have, per analytics, been more gutsy to punt.

And this is why analytics has no place here.

Just like in baseball.

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