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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 2:51:53 PM   
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JUST DROP IT! Trump and Pelosi will reach an accord before you guys do.


I'm 100% done.



I'm not.

Someone is telling me what I believe.

I find that comically insulting and ridiculous at the same time.


I do too, but I really don't care enough about his opinion of me to continue on.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 2:55:24 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 2:57:35 PM   
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JUST DROP IT! Trump and Pelosi will reach an accord before you guys do.


I'm 100% done.



I'm not.

Someone is telling me what I believe.

I find that comically insulting and ridiculous at the same time.


I do too, but I really don't care enough about his opinion of me to continue on.


Look I can be a pretty stubborn ass sometimes, but when you are completely disrespectful of another poster as you were it's easy not to care about their opinion. Perhaps you should consider that in future interactions.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 2:57:41 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 3:00:15 PM  3 votes
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I will say that I am sorry for the vitriol on here today.

I was insulted and didn't take it well. I apologize to all the other posters including Pager and DL.

It's sad one can't have a conversation on here without someone being an insulting jerk And I admit I went too far. But others did too.

Peace.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 3:02:37 PM   
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You believe that I think Flip is better than Reich despite my posting history on Reich and the fact that I said I don't?

You can't make this s*** up.


Whatthefuckever.

I can believe whateverthefuck that I want.

How about this. you believe what you want to believe. i will believe what I want to believe and we'll just leave it at that?



Do you think I'm lying?

Do you know me better than I know myself?

I am amazed you are so dug in.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 3:06:35 PM   
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Time for me to unplug.

I'm sorry for taking over the thread for what, literally, is nonsense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 3:12:40 PM   
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DeFillipo and Stefanski may both be very good head coaches some day....I love that Kubiak is advising Stefanski. Jags should get an advisor for Flip.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 3:13:35 PM   
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You believe that I think Flip is better than Reich despite my posting history on Reich and the fact that I said I don't?

You can't make this s*** up.


Whatthefuckever.

I can believe whateverthefuck that I want.

How about this. you believe what you want to believe. i will believe what I want to believe and we'll just leave it at that?



Do you think I'm lying?

Do you know me better than I know myself?

I am amazed you are so dug in.


I posted a public apology and you follow it up with more shit.

who's more dug in?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 4:38:10 PM   
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It's good if Zimmer knows his limitations. He has always brought in former head coaches to help him with the offense, starting with Norv. I like that about him. He delegates authority. That's what successful managers do who are not bound by their egos. It's the same with special teams. I don't believe he was too proactive with the special teams. Releasing our rookie kicker might have been Zimmer, though.


Yes it’s good that he brings in seasoned people. But he does seem to have a short fuse with his people when things go a bit awry.


My memory is a bit sketchy, but didn't Norv just quit because he didn't get along with Pat Shurmur? Maybe I'm wrong. Who else has Zimmer cut ties with a short fuse?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 4:52:24 PM   
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I will say that I am sorry for the vitriol on here today.

I was insulted and didn't take it well. I apologize to all the other posters including Pager and DL.

It's sad one can't have a conversation on here without someone being an insulting jerk And I admit I went too far. But others did too.

Peace.


You guys are all good posters. I appreciate you all.

Elflein had a tough sophomore year and I don't believe he was 100%. Still, good centers can be found in the mid rounds. I wanted Daniels last year. One option is for Elflein to switch to guard if we find a really good center in the draft. say in the third round. It might be good insurance in case Elflein doesn't come back to his rookie year form. I don't have the inside information on Elflein.

Also, I'm wondering if we make a scheme change on the line again next year. It may depend on who the offensive line coach is what he can bring to the team. Being that we are bringing former Denver Broncos coaches to the offense, my hunch is that we will stick with the zone blocking scheme, though. Maybe it's good to see some continuity. Every year there is a new offensive line coach and there are wholesale changes in personnel. With that in mind, I really do hope Elflein returns to form. That will help if there are three starters returning to their same positions.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 5:08:37 PM   
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Kiper's take on how we will address the offensive line in the first round. His suggestion is that the Vikings will take the last offensive lineman in him mock draft of the first round. In other words, if he is gone, then they will need to select another position.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/1/17/18187124/minnesota-vikings-offensive-line-mel-kiper-mock-draft-2019-nfl-draft?fbclid=IwAR2Mf6qg8tXQEo2R2aEmTYcEBEArIy_ZHF_AO6wA9NncBr410mYU1zq6h48

Sorry. Maybe this should have been posted in a draft thread.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 5:17:21 PM   
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In 22 years as an NFL OC or head coach, Kubiak’s teams have run the ball 47 percent of the time. That’s plenty enough to saddle up alongside Zimmer.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 5:41:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

It's good if Zimmer knows his limitations. He has always brought in former head coaches to help him with the offense, starting with Norv. I like that about him. He delegates authority. That's what successful managers do who are not bound by their egos. It's the same with special teams. I don't believe he was too proactive with the special teams. Releasing our rookie kicker might have been Zimmer, though.


Yes it’s good that he brings in seasoned people. But he does seem to have a short fuse with his people when things go a bit awry.


My memory is a bit sketchy, but didn't Norv just quit because he didn't get along with Pat Shurmur? Maybe I'm wrong. Who else has Zimmer cut ties with a short fuse?


If there has ever been a reason given for why Norv quit I haven't heard it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 6:31:22 PM   
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I pretend to know but I don't know.

I'm not entirely unconvinced our record wouldn't have been better if Flip coached us the entire year.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 6:32:13 PM   
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I pretend to know but I don't know.

I'm not entirely unconvinced our record wouldn't have been better if Flip coached us the entire year.


I've considered that possibility as well.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 6:33:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

It's good if Zimmer knows his limitations. He has always brought in former head coaches to help him with the offense, starting with Norv. I like that about him. He delegates authority. That's what successful managers do who are not bound by their egos. It's the same with special teams. I don't believe he was too proactive with the special teams. Releasing our rookie kicker might have been Zimmer, though.


Yes it’s good that he brings in seasoned people. But he does seem to have a short fuse with his people when things go a bit awry.


My memory is a bit sketchy, but didn't Norv just quit because he didn't get along with Pat Shurmur? Maybe I'm wrong. Who else has Zimmer cut ties with a short fuse?


If there has ever been a reason given for why Norv quit I haven't heard it.

No there hasn't. doubt we'll ever find out.

I think he and Zim must have had a bit of a falling out. Bradford was just aquired and being he had worked with Shurmur he more or less took over the offense and I'm sure Norval was butt hurt.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 7:43:15 PM   
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I will say that I am sorry for the vitriol on here today.

I was insulted and didn't take it well. I apologize to all the other posters including Pager and DL.

It's sad one can't have a conversation on here without someone being an insulting jerk And I admit I went too far. But others did too.

Peace.


You guys are all good posters. I appreciate you all.

Elflein had a tough sophomore year and I don't believe he was 100%. Still, good centers can be found in the mid rounds. I wanted Daniels last year. One option is for Elflein to switch to guard if we find a really good center in the draft. say in the third round. It might be good insurance in case Elflein doesn't come back to his rookie year form. I don't have the inside information on Elflein.

Also, I'm wondering if we make a scheme change on the line again next year. It may depend on who the offensive line coach is what he can bring to the team. Being that we are bringing former Denver Broncos coaches to the offense, my hunch is that we will stick with the zone blocking scheme, though. Maybe it's good to see some continuity. Every year there is a new offensive line coach and there are wholesale changes in personnel. With that in mind, I really do hope Elflein returns to form. That will help if there are three starters returning to their same positions.



Good post Bruce. Free Agency is also deeper at the center position. Guard drops off pretty rapidly after Saffold, while centers seems to have more upgrade type options. Getting a veteran stud at center might do more for the guard positions than anything. Then you have more flexibility with the draft. If the right guy falls to you at 18, scoop him up. But you don't have to reach. Have Easton, Elflien, and rookie competing for 2 spots.

I'd be talking with Elf already, see if he's open to it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 7:50:32 PM   
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Kiper's take on how we will address the offensive line in the first round. His suggestion is that the Vikings will take the last offensive lineman in him mock draft of the first round. In other words, if he is gone, then they will need to select another position.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/1/17/18187124/minnesota-vikings-offensive-line-mel-kiper-mock-draft-2019-nfl-draft?fbclid=IwAR2Mf6qg8tXQEo2R2aEmTYcEBEArIy_ZHF_AO6wA9NncBr410mYU1zq6h48

Sorry. Maybe this should have been posted in a draft thread.



The surprising thing is Ford going 7th overall. Easily the highest I've seen so far. Yes I know, very early.

I don't think moving Reif inside is a viable option. Too many question marks with that (and residual trauma from the last time we tried it) for a season this important to the team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 8:05:45 PM   
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A reply to the tweet:

Larry Lunder @LarryLunder
Replying to @VikeFans @athielen19

I tried to bid on it but dropped my phone before I could complete the bid.

< Message edited by Ricky J -- 1/17/2019 8:08:27 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 8:35:48 PM   
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A reply to the tweet:

Larry Lunder @LarryLunder
Replying to @VikeFans @athielen19

I tried to bid on it but dropped my phone before I could complete the bid.


A better answer would have been "I tried to bid on it but my internet connection dropped before I could complete the bid."
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 10:04:58 PM   
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Coach Moss???

That would be Sweet!

www.dailynorseman.com/2019/1/17/18187658/coach-randy-moss-wide-receiver-coach-minnesota-vikings

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/17/2019 10:24:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

I will say that I am sorry for the vitriol on here today.

I was insulted and didn't take it well. I apologize to all the other posters including Pager and DL.

It's sad one can't have a conversation on here without someone being an insulting jerk And I admit I went too far. But others did too.

Peace.


You guys are all good posters. I appreciate you all.

Elflein had a tough sophomore year and I don't believe he was 100%. Still, good centers can be found in the mid rounds. I wanted Daniels last year. One option is for Elflein to switch to guard if we find a really good center in the draft. say in the third round. It might be good insurance in case Elflein doesn't come back to his rookie year form. I don't have the inside information on Elflein.

Also, I'm wondering if we make a scheme change on the line again next year. It may depend on who the offensive line coach is what he can bring to the team. Being that we are bringing former Denver Broncos coaches to the offense, my hunch is that we will stick with the zone blocking scheme, though. Maybe it's good to see some continuity. Every year there is a new offensive line coach and there are wholesale changes in personnel. With that in mind, I really do hope Elflein returns to form. That will help if there are three starters returning to their same positions.



Good post Bruce. Free Agency is also deeper at the center position. Guard drops off pretty rapidly after Saffold, while centers seems to have more upgrade type options. Getting a veteran stud at center might do more for the guard positions than anything. Then you have more flexibility with the draft. If the right guy falls to you at 18, scoop him up. But you don't have to reach. Have Easton, Elflien, and rookie competing for 2 spots.

I'd be talking with Elf already, see if he's open to it.



After the draft Elf said his preference was Guard, so, I bet he'd be more than happy to move over
unless he's changed his mind since then.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/18/2019 6:38:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

I will say that I am sorry for the vitriol on here today.

I was insulted and didn't take it well. I apologize to all the other posters including Pager and DL.

It's sad one can't have a conversation on here without someone being an insulting jerk And I admit I went too far. But others did too.

Peace.


You guys are all good posters. I appreciate you all.

Elflein had a tough sophomore year and I don't believe he was 100%. Still, good centers can be found in the mid rounds. I wanted Daniels last year. One option is for Elflein to switch to guard if we find a really good center in the draft. say in the third round. It might be good insurance in case Elflein doesn't come back to his rookie year form. I don't have the inside information on Elflein.

Also, I'm wondering if we make a scheme change on the line again next year. It may depend on who the offensive line coach is what he can bring to the team. Being that we are bringing former Denver Broncos coaches to the offense, my hunch is that we will stick with the zone blocking scheme, though. Maybe it's good to see some continuity. Every year there is a new offensive line coach and there are wholesale changes in personnel. With that in mind, I really do hope Elflein returns to form. That will help if there are three starters returning to their same positions.



Good post Bruce. Free Agency is also deeper at the center position. Guard drops off pretty rapidly after Saffold, while centers seems to have more upgrade type options. Getting a veteran stud at center might do more for the guard positions than anything. Then you have more flexibility with the draft. If the right guy falls to you at 18, scoop him up. But you don't have to reach. Have Easton, Elflien, and rookie competing for 2 spots.

I'd be talking with Elf already, see if he's open to it.



After the draft Elf said his preference was Guard, so, I bet he'd be more than happy to move over
unless he's changed his mind since then.

Even if he's not open to it, tough luck, he played like crap at center. Then again, the Vikings didn't bench their crap offensive lineman this season, so if he were to insist he remain at center, he'd probably continue on as the starting center.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/18/2019 6:42:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

I will say that I am sorry for the vitriol on here today.

I was insulted and didn't take it well. I apologize to all the other posters including Pager and DL.

It's sad one can't have a conversation on here without someone being an insulting jerk And I admit I went too far. But others did too.

Peace.


You guys are all good posters. I appreciate you all.

Elflein had a tough sophomore year and I don't believe he was 100%. Still, good centers can be found in the mid rounds. I wanted Daniels last year. One option is for Elflein to switch to guard if we find a really good center in the draft. say in the third round. It might be good insurance in case Elflein doesn't come back to his rookie year form. I don't have the inside information on Elflein.

Also, I'm wondering if we make a scheme change on the line again next year. It may depend on who the offensive line coach is what he can bring to the team. Being that we are bringing former Denver Broncos coaches to the offense, my hunch is that we will stick with the zone blocking scheme, though. Maybe it's good to see some continuity. Every year there is a new offensive line coach and there are wholesale changes in personnel. With that in mind, I really do hope Elflein returns to form. That will help if there are three starters returning to their same positions.



Good post Bruce. Free Agency is also deeper at the center position. Guard drops off pretty rapidly after Saffold, while centers seems to have more upgrade type options. Getting a veteran stud at center might do more for the guard positions than anything. Then you have more flexibility with the draft. If the right guy falls to you at 18, scoop him up. But you don't have to reach. Have Easton, Elflien, and rookie competing for 2 spots.

I'd be talking with Elf already, see if he's open to it.

I'm not sure I'd count on much from Easton. He wasn't that good to begin with, and the recent experience is it takes a long while for o-lineman to regain their form after season ending injuries. John Sullivan, Fusco, and Elflein, for example.
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