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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Very un-Minnesotan to not extend Spielman and Zimmer's contracts thus far. Above average usually gets it done.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Very un-Minnesotan to not extend Spielman and Zimmer's contracts thus far. Above average usually gets it done.

the wilf's could be getting ready to sell the team, and want to allow the new owners the flexibility of selecting their own coaches and front office personnel....

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Very un-Minnesotan to not extend Spielman and Zimmer's contracts thus far. Above average usually gets it done.

the wilf's could be getting ready to sell the team, and want to allow the new owners the flexibility of selecting their own coaches and front office personnel....

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Very un-Minnesotan to not extend Spielman and Zimmer's contracts thus far. Above average usually gets it done.

the wilf's could be getting ready to sell the team, and want to allow the new owners the flexibility of selecting their own coaches and front office personnel....

Is that pure speculation based on hearsay ... and if so, where did you hear it?

Or is that pure speculation / thinking out loud ...

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

He does have an impressive resume with a lot of experience at different positions. What's interesting to me is that he was a linebacker as a player, but has coached on offense, including offensive coordinator and QB coach.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Dennison

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

He does have an impressive resume with a lot of experience at different positions. What's interesting to me is that he was a linebacker as a player, but has coached on offense, including offensive coordinator and QB coach.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Dennison

He was TE/WR in college

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

My point was that Zimmer and Co. kept putting the same crap out there EVERY WEEK with garbage results. Everyone knows an offensive line needs cohesion, but if the results you want continues to come up short, you try something else. Why not try Isidora or Jones? Hard to believe it could have been any worse. Why not promote Edison? Gossett gets plucked from the practice squad. Let's continue to march these "Veteran" scrubs out there EVERY week.

Zimmer is extremely guilty of this. He will continue to start his vets, no matter how bad they're playing. Hell, if Sendejo doesn't get hurt, Anthony Harris is still riding the pine.

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

My point was that Zimmer and Co. kept putting the same crap out there EVERY WEEK with garbage results. Everyone knows an offensive line needs cohesion, but if the results you want continues to come up short, you try something else. Why not try Isidora or Jones? Hard to believe it could have been any worse. Why not promote Edison? Gossett gets plucked from the practice squad. Let's continue to march these "Veteran" scrubs out there EVERY week.

Zimmer is extremely guilty of this. He will continue to start his vets, no matter how bad they're playing. Hell, if Sendejo doesn't get hurt, Anthony Harris is still riding the pine.

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

My point was that Zimmer and Co. kept putting the same crap out there EVERY WEEK with garbage results. Everyone knows an offensive line needs cohesion, but if the results you want continues to come up short, you try something else. Why not try Isidora or Jones? Hard to believe it could have been any worse. Why not promote Edison? Gossett gets plucked from the practice squad. Let's continue to march these "Veteran" scrubs out there EVERY week.

Zimmer is extremely guilty of this. He will continue to start his vets, no matter how bad they're playing. He'll, if Sendejo doesn't get hurt, Anthony Harris is still riding the pine.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

My point was that Zimmer and Co. kept putting the same crap out there EVERY WEEK with garbage results. Everyone knows an offensive line needs cohesion, but if the results you want continues to come up short, you try something else. Why not try Isidora or Jones? Hard to believe it could have been any worse. Why not promote Edison? Gossett gets plucked from the practice squad. Let's continue to march these "Veteran" scrubs out there EVERY week.

Zimmer is extremely guilty of this. He will continue to start his vets, no matter how bad they're playing. He'll, if Sendejo doesn't get hurt, Anthony Harris is still riding the pine.

Can't believe Zimmer let them play Brian O'neill, or Elflein last year.

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

This guy nailed it as far as the play of the OLine this past season and how coaching was a very big part of the problem. There was no accountability for the poor results for marching out the same crap week after week.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/01/26/fix-minnesota-vikings-offensive-line/4/

I agree. If something isn't working, try something else.

Reminds me of 2013 when it was obvious that Ponder wasn't playing well, and when asked for comment, Frazier would reply that he needed to review the tape. It was obvious something wasn't working, so make a change.

Sticking with the status quo suggests that the backup o-lineman are even worse, which seems difficult to believe. I'd like to believe that the team would bench relatively high draft picks or free agent signings that play like crap, but I'm not sure they would. It's as if the coaches are scared to make Spielman look bad.

Continuity is almost as important as anything else for an OL unit. The throw crap at the wall and see what sticks coaching approach should be limited to OTAs, training camp, and preseason.

That's conventional wisdom. Would you never bench an underperforming offensive lineman? The Vikings don't seem to.

Of course I would. Just not for a worse performing player. It's not like the Vikes haven't seen what they have at backup. This don't want to make Spielman look bad stuff is silly, why would Spielman look bad if we replaced Compton with Isiidora?

My point was that Zimmer and Co. kept putting the same crap out there EVERY WEEK with garbage results. Everyone knows an offensive line needs cohesion, but if the results you want continues to come up short, you try something else. Why not try Isidora or Jones? Hard to believe it could have been any worse. Why not promote Edison? Gossett gets plucked from the practice squad. Let's continue to march these "Veteran" scrubs out there EVERY week.

Zimmer is extremely guilty of this. He will continue to start his vets, no matter how bad they're playing. He'll, if Sendejo doesn't get hurt, Anthony Harris is still riding the pine.

Can't believe Zimmer let them play Brian O'neill, or Elflein last year.

Me neither, especially the way Elflein struggled.

Why not play Jones? As for O'Neil, it wouldn't have happened with him either, if Hill hadn't gotten hurt.

See a pattern?

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Sean Borman@SeanBoarMan
Ben Goessling said on KFAN he expects Rick Dennison to be named offensive line coach for the #Vikings.