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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

It looks like the Vikings want to keep Rudolph and are trying to make the numbers work. I don't begrudge a guy who believes in himself by taking a strong stand in his contract negotiations and I do appreciate his contributions on and off the field in the past. Being a Red Zone threat makes him a valuable player. If I saw him in another uniform I do believe I would be sad. That's why I reacted a bit emotionally when he refused to compromise. I do want the best possible team on the field because I'm a Vikings fan and they have a chance this year to be Super. Also, it is a valid point that tight ends usually take some time to develop. So you can see that I am listening to both sides of this issue. Just, I have decided that blocking is more important than being a pass catcher for a tight end and is a reason to play Rudolph less than in the past. That's why I think of him as a backup, now. I'm just a fan and don't know Rudolph as well as the Vikings staff does, so I have to acknowledge that I very well could be on the wrong side of this issue. Again, it does appear that the Vikings are patiently and persistently trying to make the numbers work.

It's Kyle Rudolph's illusions I recall, I really don't know Kyle Rudolph at all.

https://youtu.be/8L1UngfqojI

Oh the memories.. The Purple People Eaters were just coming into their own when this one hit the charts..

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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It looks like the Vikings want to keep Rudolph and are trying to make the numbers work.

Other than an unnamed source from idiot Florio and his crack team of ace reporters working without spell check, do we have anything that supports this?

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Hilarious.

From a guy that has proclaimed a 7th rounder will not only make the team but instantly produce as our 3rd WR. Based on his college production. BUT ignores the college production of our 2nd rounder.

Classic KG.

Da

BOOM!

we haven't seen it yet, but i have already bought into a vikings' base offense as 12 personnel...smith will be our new wr#3 from the tight end position...dennison and kubiak designing our new mobile zone o-line - cook shooting through the creases and mattison carrying defenders a couple of yards after contact...rudolph's length/catching radius and smith's quickness - diggs and thielen....

cousins is going to have to work on his rollout passing to the left more so we're less predictable....

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

It looks like the Vikings want to keep Rudolph and are trying to make the numbers work. I don't begrudge a guy who believes in himself by taking a strong stand in his contract negotiations and I do appreciate his contributions on and off the field in the past. Being a Red Zone threat makes him a valuable player. If I saw him in another uniform I do believe I would be sad. That's why I reacted a bit emotionally when he refused to compromise. I do want the best possible team on the field because I'm a Vikings fan and they have a chance this year to be Super. Also, it is a valid point that tight ends usually take some time to develop. So you can see that I am listening to both sides of this issue. Just, I have decided that blocking is more important than being a pass catcher for a tight end and is a reason to play Rudolph less than in the past. That's why I think of him as a backup, now. I'm just a fan and don't know Rudolph as well as the Vikings staff does, so I have to acknowledge that I very well could be on the wrong side of this issue. Again, it does appear that the Vikings are patiently and persistently trying to make the numbers work.

It's Kyle Rudolph's illusions I recall, I really don't know Kyle Rudolph at all.

https://youtu.be/8L1UngfqojI

Oh the memories.. The Purple People Eaters were just coming into their own when this one hit the charts..

Try this version Kurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob0mYdbFjdU

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

It looks like the Vikings want to keep Rudolph and are trying to make the numbers work. I don't begrudge a guy who believes in himself by taking a strong stand in his contract negotiations and I do appreciate his contributions on and off the field in the past. Being a Red Zone threat makes him a valuable player. If I saw him in another uniform I do believe I would be sad. That's why I reacted a bit emotionally when he refused to compromise. I do want the best possible team on the field because I'm a Vikings fan and they have a chance this year to be Super. Also, it is a valid point that tight ends usually take some time to develop. So you can see that I am listening to both sides of this issue. Just, I have decided that blocking is more important than being a pass catcher for a tight end and is a reason to play Rudolph less than in the past. That's why I think of him as a backup, now. I'm just a fan and don't know Rudolph as well as the Vikings staff does, so I have to acknowledge that I very well could be on the wrong side of this issue. Again, it does appear that the Vikings are patiently and persistently trying to make the numbers work.

It's Kyle Rudolph's illusions I recall, I really don't know Kyle Rudolph at all.

https://youtu.be/8L1UngfqojI

Oh the memories.. The Purple People Eaters were just coming into their own when this one hit the charts..

Try this version Kurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob0mYdbFjdU

A nice song. Not really fit for these boards.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

It's from PFF so needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, but it's exciting.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-a-healthy-dalvin-cook-is-a-dark-horse-for-top-running-back-honors-in-the-nfl

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Worth a read

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/18/18623742/vikings-kirk-cousins-all-stats-but-nothing-super

Starts out as a pretty damning article on Cousins failures but then goes on with some conclusive data as to why and how this could be rectified.

For example, Cousins numbers are identical to Brady's. Only Brady had a top ten rushing attack.

Sea is a good example. piss poor oline and running game equals missing the playoffs. They reconstructed their oline and had the #1 rushing attack last season and are back in the playoffs.

As much as this is a passing league a top ten defense and a top ten rushing attack are still the staple to success.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

It's from PFF so needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, but it's exciting.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-a-healthy-dalvin-cook-is-a-dark-horse-for-top-running-back-honors-in-the-nfl

Cook is primed for a big year, as long as the tight end can sustain his blocks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Worth a read

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/18/18623742/vikings-kirk-cousins-all-stats-but-nothing-super

Starts out as a pretty damning article on Cousins failures but then goes on with some conclusive data as to why and how this could be rectified.

For example, Cousins numbers are identical to Brady's. Only Brady had a top ten rushing attack.

Sea is a good example. piss poor oline and running game equals missing the playoffs. They reconstructed their oline and had the #1 rushing attack last season and are back in the playoffs.

As much as this is a passing league a top ten defense and a top ten rushing attack are still the staple to success.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Worth a read

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/18/18623742/vikings-kirk-cousins-all-stats-but-nothing-super

Starts out as a pretty damning article on Cousins failures but then goes on with some conclusive data as to why and how this could be rectified.

For example, Cousins numbers are identical to Brady's. Only Brady had a top ten rushing attack.

Sea is a good example. piss poor oline and running game equals missing the playoffs. They reconstructed their oline and had the #1 rushing attack last season and are back in the playoffs.

As much as this is a passing league a top ten defense and a top ten rushing attack are still the staple to success.

Judging and ranking a running game only on total yards is misleading.

Patriots did rush for TD's well, but their average per carry was below average.

Again, teams with leads, especially big leads, run more. Doesn't mean they ran their way to success, in fact, quite often it's the opposite.

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ORIGINAL: marty

That was one of the 2 contentions I had with article posted, the success of the run game, amount of yardage especially, goes up with quarterbacking that gets early leads or converts on 3rd down.

The quarterback that converts 3rd downs and gets early leads, also leads to the defensive rankings being better.

And Cousin's higher QB ranking in the 4th quarter is not impressive, if it doesn't lead to wins. If you're behind by 2 TDs, the defense gives you prevent for the 1st one, easy TD. Then the next drive, you get a bunch of yardage, but the defense tightens so you don't score and tie the game, your team loses by 7.

So, in that case, your 4th QB ranking looks great as you got a TD and tons of yardage, but your team lost. And this also ignores that you sucked the 1st 3 quarters. And it doesn't look like the run game supported you in the 4th quarter, as you did almost all passing, because you were behind. Behind because: QB sucked the 1st 3 quarters.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Maybe I'm just old school.

But I really enjoy watching an oline manhandle the defense and simply run the ball down their throat.

Unfortunately, haven't seen that out of our oline since maybe 2012.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Winning teams run. Running teams don’t win.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Maybe I'm just old school.

But I really enjoy watching an oline manhandle the defense and simply run the ball down their throat.

Unfortunately, haven't seen that out of our oline since maybe 2012.

Yeah it gets really old listening to all these metrosexual passing league types.

Poodles.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Maybe I'm just old school.

But I really enjoy watching an oline manhandle the defense and simply run the ball down their throat.

Unfortunately, haven't seen that out of our oline since maybe 2012.

Yeah it gets really old listening to all these metrosexual passing league types.

Poodles.

And

https://youtu.be/8L1UngfqojI

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

If our team wants to do more play action, they will have to get better at running the ball or opposing defenses will overplay the pass.

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ORIGINAL: marty

.... With your Sloter obsession you're going to dismiss anything favorable to Cousins.

Not true, I am actually kidding about Sloter, and expect he will soon have some poor preseason games, regression to the mean, and playing against 2nd stringers instead of 3rd stringers.

Cousins has done ok at times, has nice accuracy, and can throw it far. I just want him to play better against strong opponents, I want him to be clutch. I loved his play at Philly last year, I want more of that, early leads and put teams away.

I do realize it will take many other positions stepping it up, not just the Captain.