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ORIGINAL: Todd M

When Dallas was potentially lining up for an onside kick, but kicked away, they flashed the season success rate...what was it, 4% or 8% ? Either way I knew it was down. Isn't generally somewhere in the low to mid 20's as a probability %? Wonder why it's so down this year.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

When Dallas was potentially lining up for an onside kick, but kicked away, they flashed the season success rate...what was it, 4% or 8% ? Either way I knew it was down. Isn't generally somewhere in the low to mid 20's as a probability %? Wonder why it's so down this year.

With the new rule keeping the kicking team from getting a running start it's too hard to get down there and blast the guy trying to field the ball.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Trust me, I'm not going to build a case to keep Compton unless he's a minimum deep back-up or even zealously defend my statement above, but the other two were horrible late in the season.

I have hope for Elf and think it may easily have come down to lingering effects of his injuries, including conditioning. But we can't count on him as a surefire starter on a good line at this point.

I'm going to eventually try to see what's available in FA beyond Saffold, but we have to add two starter level interior OL before the draft or we're risking another lost season and another year where we can't readily evaluate what we have---or don't have---in Cousins.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Trust me, I'm not going to build a case to keep Compton unless he's a minimum deep back-up or even zealously defend my statement above, but the other two were horrible late in the season.

I have hope for Elf and think it may easily have come down to lingering effects of his injuries, including conditioning. But we can't count on him as a surefire starter on a good line at this point.

I'm going to eventually try to see what's available in FA beyond Saffold, but we have to add two starter level interior OL before the draft or we're risking another lost season and another year where we can't readily evaluate what we have---or don't have---in Cousins.

Saffold (30 ) appears to be the best UFA G this off-season

My guess it will take 4-5 year contract north of 50ml to land him

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Trust me, I'm not going to build a case to keep Compton unless he's a minimum deep back-up or even zealously defend my statement above, but the other two were horrible late in the season.

I have hope for Elf and think it may easily have come down to lingering effects of his injuries, including conditioning. But we can't count on him as a surefire starter on a good line at this point.

I'm going to eventually try to see what's available in FA beyond Saffold, but we have to add two starter level interior OL before the draft or we're risking another lost season and another year where we can't readily evaluate what we have---or don't have---in Cousins.

Saffold (30 ) appears to be the best UFA G this off-season

My guess it will take 4-5 year contract north of 50ml to land him

That's doable.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Trust me, I'm not going to build a case to keep Compton unless he's a minimum deep back-up or even zealously defend my statement above, but the other two were horrible late in the season.

I have hope for Elf and think it may easily have come down to lingering effects of his injuries, including conditioning. But we can't count on him as a surefire starter on a good line at this point.

I'm going to eventually try to see what's available in FA beyond Saffold, but we have to add two starter level interior OL before the draft or we're risking another lost season and another year where we can't readily evaluate what we have---or don't have---in Cousins.

Saffold (30 ) appears to be the best UFA G this off-season

My guess it will take 4-5 year contract north of 50ml to land him

That's doable.

This where not drafting a Daniels or a Whitehair gets you.

Still think we would need to purge a high cb salary so we can make additional moves.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I think Saffold resigns with the Rams.

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/39526/longest-tenured-ram-rodger-saffold-has-seen-it-all-and-wants-to-come-back-for-more

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I think Saffold resigns with the Rams.

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/39526/longest-tenured-ram-rodger-saffold-has-seen-it-all-and-wants-to-come-back-for-more

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

Trading Rhodes doesn't gain 14 mil dude.. it gains six. And you wont get a 1st for him, especially since you think hes damaged goods.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Time for Zimmer to lose the chip on his shoulder. He hasn't accomplished shit. 5 years that ended in a thunk of one fashion or another. The latest being a giant turd of failed expectations. Great defensive mind that has used a ton of top draft stock for defense all to leave then feeling over coached in the end and under performing. Cries about running the ball but neglected the line.

He takes too many shots at people and players for a guy that has one playoff win as a coach and it took a miracle play to get it.

If we turn it around and save his job that will be fine with me...but if we thunk again what a waste the last half dozen years will be.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

Trading Rhodes doesn't gain 14 mil dude.. it gains six. And you wont get a 1st for him, especially since you think hes damaged goods.

Rhodes should garner a 1st rd pick.

He's due 14ml unless we get hit with some sort dead cap hit from a trade.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Pro personnel group has to earn their money, including Spielman. I've been in the space in an NBA office where they dealt with players already in the league, and they had rankings, groupings, classifications, color coding, etc, for every player in the NBA, the developmental league, and a bunch in Europe. They had extensive data not only on performance, but on their career history, salary history, forward projections, etc. They had trade scenario's that included who was worth a first-rounder, what it might take to get each in terms of draft picks, cash, cap room, players currently on their roster, etc.

The Vikings have to go into the draft with two new starters out of the three interior OL spots, and they probably aren't getting a star. I'd love to get Saffold, but I've thought all along he returns to the Rams unless there's something unknown. When I read that article, none of it surprised me.

We are going to have to be creative and smart, and probably willing to overpay the guys we bring in. What we can't do is wait until the draft, because we might not have guys fall to us who can legitimately start on Day 1 of the 2019 season.

Any offseason plan that doesn't account for two new starting interior OL is a total non-starter, pun somewhat intended. Past failures have made it much harder to field an effective OL in 2019, as Bill said.

The front office has to have started earning their 2019 paychecks well before the present moment or we might already be screwed.