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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/11/2019 11:06:43 AM   
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Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/11/2019 11:11:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)

huh? would think Hakeem Butler would be in the mix.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/11/2019 12:21:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)

huh? would think Hakeem Butler would be in the mix.

Butler went at pick 103 IIRC. For him to make this list he would have had to be Jeremiah's 52nd overall or better.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/11/2019 3:27:48 PM   
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Alexander Mattison's detractors like to point out how he only had 9 runs of over 15 yards. If this post from Reddit is accurate they were really cherry picking that stat. Seems like you normally talk about runs of over 10 yards or 20 yards.

[–]DevtoneFreemon 7 points 1 month ago
3rd in the nation in 10 yard runs, 20 yard runs and missed tackles forced. Although someone you are not a fan of is in the top 3 of all the same categories as well: Singletary.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/11/2019 11:51:43 PM   
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Alexander Mattison's detractors like to point out how he only had 9 runs of over 15 yards. If this post from Reddit is accurate they were really cherry picking that stat. Seems like you normally talk about runs of over 10 yards or 20 yards.

[–]DevtoneFreemon 7 points 1 month ago
3rd in the nation in 10 yard runs, 20 yard runs and missed tackles forced. Although someone you are not a fan of is in the top 3 of all the same categories as well: Singletary.


It seems that he had more rushing attempts than most every other RB. Still, he was able to produce even though defenses knew he was getting the ball.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/11/2019 11:56:44 PM   
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Alexander Mattison's detractors like to point out how he only had 9 runs of over 15 yards. If this post from Reddit is accurate they were really cherry picking that stat. Seems like you normally talk about runs of over 10 yards or 20 yards.

[–]DevtoneFreemon 7 points 1 month ago
3rd in the nation in 10 yard runs, 20 yard runs and missed tackles forced. Although someone you are not a fan of is in the top 3 of all the same categories as well: Singletary.


It seems that he had more rushing attempts than most every other RB. Still, he was able to produce even though defenses knew he was getting the ball.

He probably had a $hitload of runs between 10-15 yards and all his over 15 were 20 or more. Or the quote I found was false. I already knew he was very good in the breaking tackles department.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 6:56:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)


Here is more on how Daniel Jeremiah liked our draft. It's interesting to me how he rated Samia right behind McGovern. (#75 and#76) A notable omission from the list is our running selection. Also, he has Johnson rated above Mitchell.

Daniel Jeremiah appears to be a big fan of the Vikings’ draft https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/11/18615872/daniel-jeremiah-minnesota-vikings-2019-nfl-draft

Note: Sorry again for the lengthy links. I was sharing from an app on my phone.

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 5/12/2019 7:00:05 AM >


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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 7:48:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)


Here is more on how Daniel Jeremiah liked our draft. It's interesting to me how he rated Samia right behind McGovern. (#75 and#76) A notable omission from the list is our running selection. Also, he has Johnson rated above Mitchell.

Daniel Jeremiah appears to be a big fan of the Vikings’ draft https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/11/18615872/daniel-jeremiah-minnesota-vikings-2019-nfl-draft

Note: Sorry again for the lengthy links. I was sharing from an app on my phone.

Nice Link Bruce. While there I found the following illuminating information on Dillon Mitchell.

By Christopher Gates May 11, 2019, 9:47am PDT
A tweet by Dillon's Father.

One week ago today the Minnesota Vikings @Vikings drafted my son, @DMFM1_ taking a chance on him and giving him an opportunity. I want to personally thank the Vikings ofganization myself for the once in a lifetime opportunity. Due to a few entrusted individuals with ill intent (and you know who you are) who gave NFL teams some false negative info about his team character he dropped in the draft from a 3rd round graded selection to the 7th round. His head coach verified that the info was false and not true but teams went with it anyway. Everyone who really knows him knows that his skills speak for themselves and what his true team character really is, which is to work hard to be the best player he can be for his team. To those individuals as the saying goes “No man can stop what God has for you.” Again @Vikings Thank You!

Now, I assume that by saying that Mitchell was a “3rd round graded selection,” the elder Mitchell is referring to the grade that Dillon Mitchell received from the College Advisory Committee, the body that college underclassmen are able to consult with when making their decision to declare for the Draft or not. Obviously, we can’t confirm that one way or another, but that’s the impression I get from the statement.
Dillon Mitchell was coming off of a season where he set the Oregon school record for receiving yardage with 1,184 yards on 75 receptions, and also had ten receiving touchdowns. He did come out after his junior year, which is more reason to believe that he did get a decent grade from the advisory board. I wouldn’t think he would have declared for the draft otherwise.
I haven’t been able to find anything resembling a mark against Mitchell’s character, whether on the field or off, from any sort of search that I’ve done. I don’t recall hearing anything during the pre-draft process, either.
If Mitchell was given a third-round grade by the College Advisory Committee and wasn’t selected until the Vikings grabbed him at #239 overall, it certainly sounds like he’s going to get to Eagan this summer with some extra motivation to make his way up a wide receiver depth chart that, after the first two spots, is pretty much wide open.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 7:55:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)


Here is more on how Daniel Jeremiah liked our draft. It's interesting to me how he rated Samia right behind McGovern. (#75 and#76) A notable omission from the list is our running selection. Also, he has Johnson rated above Mitchell.

Daniel Jeremiah appears to be a big fan of the Vikings’ draft https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/11/18615872/daniel-jeremiah-minnesota-vikings-2019-nfl-draft

Note: Sorry again for the lengthy links. I was sharing from an app on my phone.

Nice Link Bruce. While there I found the following illuminating information on Dillon Mitchell.

By Christopher Gates May 11, 2019, 9:47am PDT
A tweet by Dillon's Father.

One week ago today the Minnesota Vikings @Vikings drafted my son, @DMFM1_ taking a chance on him and giving him an opportunity. I want to personally thank the Vikings ofganization myself for the once in a lifetime opportunity. Due to a few entrusted individuals with ill intent (and you know who you are) who gave NFL teams some false negative info about his team character he dropped in the draft from a 3rd round graded selection to the 7th round. His head coach verified that the info was false and not true but teams went with it anyway. Everyone who really knows him knows that his skills speak for themselves and what his true team character really is, which is to work hard to be the best player he can be for his team. To those individuals as the saying goes “No man can stop what God has for you.” Again @Vikings Thank You!

Now, I assume that by saying that Mitchell was a “3rd round graded selection,” the elder Mitchell is referring to the grade that Dillon Mitchell received from the College Advisory Committee, the body that college underclassmen are able to consult with when making their decision to declare for the Draft or not. Obviously, we can’t confirm that one way or another, but that’s the impression I get from the statement.
Dillon Mitchell was coming off of a season where he set the Oregon school record for receiving yardage with 1,184 yards on 75 receptions, and also had ten receiving touchdowns. He did come out after his junior year, which is more reason to believe that he did get a decent grade from the advisory board. I wouldn’t think he would have declared for the draft otherwise.
I haven’t been able to find anything resembling a mark against Mitchell’s character, whether on the field or off, from any sort of search that I’ve done. I don’t recall hearing anything during the pre-draft process, either.
If Mitchell was given a third-round grade by the College Advisory Committee and wasn’t selected until the Vikings grabbed him at #239 overall, it certainly sounds like he’s going to get to Eagan this summer with some extra motivation to make his way up a wide receiver depth chart that, after the first two spots, is pretty much wide open.

Supposedly, Bisi Johnson making biggest 1st impression. Great routes and great hands.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 7:57:58 AM   
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his twitter fight with Akaili Smith made him look like a bit of a head case.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:02:01 AM   
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https://www.twincities.com/2019/04/27/vikings-draftees-dillon-mitchell-olabisi-johnson-both-seek-no-3-receiver-spot/

Both guys slipped in the draft= huge chip on shoulders

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:16:26 AM   
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his twitter fight with Akaili Smith made him look like a bit of a head case.

Of all the things I read about regarding Mitchell that was the one that gave me the biggest concern.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:21:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

his twitter fight with Akaili Smith made him look like a bit of a head case.

Of all the things I read about regarding Mitchell that was the one that gave me the biggest concern.

Kid looks clean per wiki

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:25:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)


Here is more on how Daniel Jeremiah liked our draft. It's interesting to me how he rated Samia right behind McGovern. (#75 and#76) A notable omission from the list is our running selection. Also, he has Johnson rated above Mitchell.

Daniel Jeremiah appears to be a big fan of the Vikings’ draft https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/11/18615872/daniel-jeremiah-minnesota-vikings-2019-nfl-draft

Note: Sorry again for the lengthy links. I was sharing from an app on my phone.

Nice Link Bruce. While there I found the following illuminating information on Dillon Mitchell.

By Christopher Gates May 11, 2019, 9:47am PDT
A tweet by Dillon's Father.

One week ago today the Minnesota Vikings @Vikings drafted my son, @DMFM1_ taking a chance on him and giving him an opportunity. I want to personally thank the Vikings ofganization myself for the once in a lifetime opportunity. Due to a few entrusted individuals with ill intent (and you know who you are) who gave NFL teams some false negative info about his team character he dropped in the draft from a 3rd round graded selection to the 7th round. His head coach verified that the info was false and not true but teams went with it anyway. Everyone who really knows him knows that his skills speak for themselves and what his true team character really is, which is to work hard to be the best player he can be for his team. To those individuals as the saying goes “No man can stop what God has for you.” Again @Vikings Thank You!

Now, I assume that by saying that Mitchell was a “3rd round graded selection,” the elder Mitchell is referring to the grade that Dillon Mitchell received from the College Advisory Committee, the body that college underclassmen are able to consult with when making their decision to declare for the Draft or not. Obviously, we can’t confirm that one way or another, but that’s the impression I get from the statement.
Dillon Mitchell was coming off of a season where he set the Oregon school record for receiving yardage with 1,184 yards on 75 receptions, and also had ten receiving touchdowns. He did come out after his junior year, which is more reason to believe that he did get a decent grade from the advisory board. I wouldn’t think he would have declared for the draft otherwise.
I haven’t been able to find anything resembling a mark against Mitchell’s character, whether on the field or off, from any sort of search that I’ve done. I don’t recall hearing anything during the pre-draft process, either.
If Mitchell was given a third-round grade by the College Advisory Committee and wasn’t selected until the Vikings grabbed him at #239 overall, it certainly sounds like he’s going to get to Eagan this summer with some extra motivation to make his way up a wide receiver depth chart that, after the first two spots, is pretty much wide open.

Supposedly, Bisi Johnson making biggest 1st impression. Great routes and great hands.

Nothing wrong with the Bisi Johnson pick but 54 receptions for 749 yards or something like that doesn't compare to 75 catches for 1184 yards. Mitchell makes things happen and they are mostly good things.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:26:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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his twitter fight with Akaili Smith made him look like a bit of a head case.

Of all the things I read about regarding Mitchell that was the one that gave me the biggest concern.

Kid looks clean per wiki

Explain? I read the Wiki and his HS numbers were Ridonkulous.
Mitchell attended White Station High School in Memphis, Tennessee. As a junior in 2015, he was named first team All-State selection and district Offensive Player of the Year and also earned the 2015 Tennessee Titans Mr. Football Class 6A Back of the Year award. In his senior season, he was named Tennessee’s Gatorade football player of the year after he caught 81 passes for 1,484 yards and 22 touchdowns, leading the Spartans to a 9-4 record and the Class 6A quarterfinals.[1] He also rushed for 951 yards and 20 more touchdowns on 64 carries

That's 2435 yards and 42 TDs in 13 games.

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 5/12/2019 8:30:51 AM >


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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:28:35 AM   
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Bisi

Overview
Tough, consistent and dependable are terms scouts and coaches use in describing Johnson as a player. He is a very polished route runner, but his lack of top-end speed could limit his draft stock somewhat. His short-area footwork is solid, but he could really thrive as a big, zone-beater in space. Johnson's football character, intelligence and core special teams ability give him a chance to find work early and eventually become a dependable WR3.

per Lance Zierlein

Sources Tell Us

"He's super smart and really, really dependable. He played with Michael Gallup, Preston Williams and Rashard Higgins over the last three years and his tape has always been solid during that time. I think he's a Day 3 player but coaches are going to love him." -- Scouting director for AFC team


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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:30:12 AM   
Bill Jandro

 

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

his twitter fight with Akaili Smith made him look like a bit of a head case.

Of all the things I read about regarding Mitchell that was the one that gave me the biggest concern.

Kid looks clean per wiki

Explain?

meaning he has never been in trouble

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 8:31:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

his twitter fight with Akaili Smith made him look like a bit of a head case.

Of all the things I read about regarding Mitchell that was the one that gave me the biggest concern.

Kid looks clean per wiki

Explain?

meaning he has never been in trouble

O I C. Thanks.
However, that Twitter thing was just such a ridiculously over the top reaction to an innocent comment from Akili Smith.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 9:14:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)


Here is more on how Daniel Jeremiah liked our draft. It's interesting to me how he rated Samia right behind McGovern. (#75 and#76) A notable omission from the list is our running selection. Also, he has Johnson rated above Mitchell.

Daniel Jeremiah appears to be a big fan of the Vikings’ draft https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/11/18615872/daniel-jeremiah-minnesota-vikings-2019-nfl-draft

Note: Sorry again for the lengthy links. I was sharing from an app on my phone.

Nice Link Bruce. While there I found the following illuminating information on Dillon Mitchell.

By Christopher Gates May 11, 2019, 9:47am PDT
A tweet by Dillon's Father.

One week ago today the Minnesota Vikings @Vikings drafted my son, @DMFM1_ taking a chance on him and giving him an opportunity. I want to personally thank the Vikings ofganization myself for the once in a lifetime opportunity. Due to a few entrusted individuals with ill intent (and you know who you are) who gave NFL teams some false negative info about his team character he dropped in the draft from a 3rd round graded selection to the 7th round. His head coach verified that the info was false and not true but teams went with it anyway. Everyone who really knows him knows that his skills speak for themselves and what his true team character really is, which is to work hard to be the best player he can be for his team. To those individuals as the saying goes “No man can stop what God has for you.” Again @Vikings Thank You!

Now, I assume that by saying that Mitchell was a “3rd round graded selection,” the elder Mitchell is referring to the grade that Dillon Mitchell received from the College Advisory Committee, the body that college underclassmen are able to consult with when making their decision to declare for the Draft or not. Obviously, we can’t confirm that one way or another, but that’s the impression I get from the statement.
Dillon Mitchell was coming off of a season where he set the Oregon school record for receiving yardage with 1,184 yards on 75 receptions, and also had ten receiving touchdowns. He did come out after his junior year, which is more reason to believe that he did get a decent grade from the advisory board. I wouldn’t think he would have declared for the draft otherwise.
I haven’t been able to find anything resembling a mark against Mitchell’s character, whether on the field or off, from any sort of search that I’ve done. I don’t recall hearing anything during the pre-draft process, either.
If Mitchell was given a third-round grade by the College Advisory Committee and wasn’t selected until the Vikings grabbed him at #239 overall, it certainly sounds like he’s going to get to Eagan this summer with some extra motivation to make his way up a wide receiver depth chart that, after the first two spots, is pretty much wide open.

Supposedly, Bisi Johnson making biggest 1st impression. Great routes and great hands.

Nothing wrong with the Bisi Johnson pick but 54 receptions for 749 yards or something like that doesn't compare to 75 catches for 1184 yards. Mitchell makes things happen and they are mostly good things.

Have these two switch teams and then check their stats.

I hope they both become studs.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 9:40:34 AM   
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It will be awesome if this year becomes the rise of the two 7th round WR's. They grow together and chase down their 2nd contracts becoming important components to the team.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 9:58:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Good value in the Vikes WR selections based on one man's evaluation (two if you include kgdabom)

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1126960549210742789

Daniel Jeremiah

Top Value picks WR
Team Name School My Value/Pick (Diff)
MIN Bisi Johnson CSU 132/247 (+115)
DET Travis Fulgham ODU 97/184 (+87)
CHI Riley Ridley UGA 42/126 (+84)
MIN Dillon Mitchell Oregon 161/239 (+78)
WAS Kelvin Harmon NCST 138/206 (+68)
AZ KeeSean Johnson Fresno 123/174 (+51)


Here is more on how Daniel Jeremiah liked our draft. It's interesting to me how he rated Samia right behind McGovern. (#75 and#76) A notable omission from the list is our running selection. Also, he has Johnson rated above Mitchell.

Daniel Jeremiah appears to be a big fan of the Vikings’ draft https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/5/11/18615872/daniel-jeremiah-minnesota-vikings-2019-nfl-draft

Note: Sorry again for the lengthy links. I was sharing from an app on my phone.

Nice Link Bruce. While there I found the following illuminating information on Dillon Mitchell.

By Christopher Gates May 11, 2019, 9:47am PDT
A tweet by Dillon's Father.

One week ago today the Minnesota Vikings @Vikings drafted my son, @DMFM1_ taking a chance on him and giving him an opportunity. I want to personally thank the Vikings ofganization myself for the once in a lifetime opportunity. Due to a few entrusted individuals with ill intent (and you know who you are) who gave NFL teams some false negative info about his team character he dropped in the draft from a 3rd round graded selection to the 7th round. His head coach verified that the info was false and not true but teams went with it anyway. Everyone who really knows him knows that his skills speak for themselves and what his true team character really is, which is to work hard to be the best player he can be for his team. To those individuals as the saying goes “No man can stop what God has for you.” Again @Vikings Thank You!

Now, I assume that by saying that Mitchell was a “3rd round graded selection,” the elder Mitchell is referring to the grade that Dillon Mitchell received from the College Advisory Committee, the body that college underclassmen are able to consult with when making their decision to declare for the Draft or not. Obviously, we can’t confirm that one way or another, but that’s the impression I get from the statement.
Dillon Mitchell was coming off of a season where he set the Oregon school record for receiving yardage with 1,184 yards on 75 receptions, and also had ten receiving touchdowns. He did come out after his junior year, which is more reason to believe that he did get a decent grade from the advisory board. I wouldn’t think he would have declared for the draft otherwise.
I haven’t been able to find anything resembling a mark against Mitchell’s character, whether on the field or off, from any sort of search that I’ve done. I don’t recall hearing anything during the pre-draft process, either.
If Mitchell was given a third-round grade by the College Advisory Committee and wasn’t selected until the Vikings grabbed him at #239 overall, it certainly sounds like he’s going to get to Eagan this summer with some extra motivation to make his way up a wide receiver depth chart that, after the first two spots, is pretty much wide open.

Supposedly, Bisi Johnson making biggest 1st impression. Great routes and great hands.

Nothing wrong with the Bisi Johnson pick but 54 receptions for 749 yards or something like that doesn't compare to 75 catches for 1184 yards. Mitchell makes things happen and they are mostly good things.

Have these two switch teams and then check their stats.

I hope they both become studs.

Agreed. the stats are very very arbitrary. Treadwell killed them both as a college senior ... so what.

Johnson and Mitchell have talent but its just farm talent. They will have to work through the 'system', have the fortitude and develop their skill sets while they sit on the PS or bottom of the roster (if they're lucky). If we are lucky, both hang on ... but not very likely.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 12:25:07 PM   
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Agreed. the stats are very very arbitrary. Treadwell killed them both as a college senior ... so what.

Johnson and Mitchell have talent but its just farm talent. They will have to work through the 'system', have the fortitude and develop their skill sets while they sit on the PS or bottom of the roster (if they're lucky). If we are lucky, both hang on ... but not very likely.

The competition for #3 WR on the Vikings is virtually non-existent. If these guys show anything they should make the team. If they show actual skill they should win the #3 and #4 WR spots.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 12:48:58 PM   
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Spielman on the hot seat - ish...with an all time draft. Starting C for a decade. A (future) starting TE, a future star RB, a starting guard, and a 3rd and 4th WR. Plus possibly more!

The WR depth chart will be a fun watch though. When you have stars at 1 and 2 locked up...1a and 1b really...and a bunch of young talent behind them chasing down the other spots...that's a good place to be.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 2:45:51 PM   
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Third receivers do not usually face top corners. That should help them, although it didn't help Treadwell.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 2:49:36 PM   
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With Beebe, Johnson and Mitchell, whomever works with the 2nd stringers the most, will have the benefit of Kyle Sloter throwing to them .

We might be wondering with the #3 WR, why don't they seem to be as impressive when playing with Cousins ? And this, despite the fact that they have Theilen and Diggs to open things up for them.

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