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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 9:49:56 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

UDFAs are basically part of the draft. It is actually tougher than the draft because there is no order and it is a free for all.

That being said, early returns on our high draft picks are not good but hopefully will improve.

They are connected … one cant happen without the other … but they are two vastly different, separate processes.

Give credit for finding undrafted talent … but saying we drafted well because we signed an undrafted punter after the draft is absurd.


Phil is a FOD... Front Office Defender.

Just like he blames losses and failed seasons on injuries. In the offseason he was mourning the loss of some 2nd-3rd stringer as a big reason the team faltered.

For him, it's living vicariously siding with "management". His upper crust.


9-2 is my response; they are doing things right.

How do you feel about your Laker FO right now?

Do you see me defending the TWOLVES FO or Twins FO right now? Vikings FO has done it right.


And away we go.......
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 9:51:59 AM   
David F.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 10:10:41 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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ORIGINAL: David F.

He didn't know where the head coach's office was. He. Didn't. Know. Where. The. EFFING. Head. Coach's. Office. Was.

















So glad he's gone. But then again I soured on him pretty early.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 10:50:17 AM   
Karl Juhnke


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

UDFAs are basically part of the draft. It is actually tougher than the draft because there is no order and it is a free for all.

That being said, early returns on our high draft picks are not good but hopefully will improve.

They are connected … one cant happen without the other … but they are two vastly different, separate processes.

Give credit for finding undrafted talent … but saying we drafted well because we signed an undrafted punter after the draft is absurd.


Phil is a FOD... Front Office Defender.

Just like he blames losses and failed seasons on injuries. In the offseason he was mourning the loss of some 2nd-3rd stringer as a big reason the team faltered.

For him, it's living vicariously siding with "management". His upper crust.


9-2 is my response; they are doing things right.

How do you feel about your Laker FO right now?

Do you see me defending the TWOLVES FO or Twins FO right now? Vikings FO has done it right.


9-2 is not blanket proof that they did EVERYTHING right. Kwesi hit a home run in coaching hire, and modernizing and revamping the organization as a whole. Good free agent signings, cap management. Another home run in trading for Hockenson.

But the draft has so far been subpar. They are 9-2 with little contribution from rookies. I know injuries have played a role in that, but I have my doubts that anyone would have jumped up even injury free. Cine maybe. He seemed talented but wasn’t impressing anyone on the staff even before he got injured.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 11:47:59 AM   
Daniel Lee Young


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

UDFAs are basically part of the draft. It is actually tougher than the draft because there is no order and it is a free for all.

That being said, early returns on our high draft picks are not good but hopefully will improve.

They are connected … one cant happen without the other … but they are two vastly different, separate processes.

Give credit for finding undrafted talent … but saying we drafted well because we signed an undrafted punter after the draft is absurd.


Phil is a FOD... Front Office Defender.

Just like he blames losses and failed seasons on injuries. In the offseason he was mourning the loss of some 2nd-3rd stringer as a big reason the team faltered.

For him, it's living vicariously siding with "management". His upper crust.


9-2 is my response; they are doing things right.

How do you feel about your Laker FO right now?

Do you see me defending the TWOLVES FO or Twins FO right now? Vikings FO has done it right.


And away we go.......

That sound you hear is the sound of a “thumper” single stroke farm diesel engine being fired up to move goal posts…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 11:58:21 AM   
bstinger


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

UDFAs are basically part of the draft. It is actually tougher than the draft because there is no order and it is a free for all.

That being said, early returns on our high draft picks are not good but hopefully will improve.

They are connected … one cant happen without the other … but they are two vastly different, separate processes.

Give credit for finding undrafted talent … but saying we drafted well because we signed an undrafted punter after the draft is absurd.


Phil is a FOD... Front Office Defender.

Just like he blames losses and failed seasons on injuries. In the offseason he was mourning the loss of some 2nd-3rd stringer as a big reason the team faltered.

For him, it's living vicariously siding with "management". His upper crust.


9-2 is my response; they are doing things right.

How do you feel about your Laker FO right now?

Do you see me defending the TWOLVES FO or Twins FO right now? Vikings FO has done it right.

Dumb response

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 12:01:55 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

UDFAs are basically part of the draft. It is actually tougher than the draft because there is no order and it is a free for all.

That being said, early returns on our high draft picks are not good but hopefully will improve.

They are connected … one cant happen without the other … but they are two vastly different, separate processes.

Give credit for finding undrafted talent … but saying we drafted well because we signed an undrafted punter after the draft is absurd.


Phil is a FOD... Front Office Defender.

Just like he blames losses and failed seasons on injuries. In the offseason he was mourning the loss of some 2nd-3rd stringer as a big reason the team faltered.

For him, it's living vicariously siding with "management". His upper crust.


9-2 is my response; they are doing things right.

How do you feel about your Laker FO right now?

Do you see me defending the TWOLVES FO or Twins FO right now? Vikings FO has done it right.

Lecture 5693

9-2 is universally understood. Everybody feels great about that. IMO this fact is lost on you (and others).

Some of us can feel great about our record and still debate the team's shortcomings.

For instance, you might think of someone like Bill as the salty uncouth barbarian apocalyptic biker dude in Raising Arizona, who rides around throwing grenades at bunnies. I know I do.

IMO you invite that kind of attack by myself and others by compulsively throwing out lame excuses for an infallible version of the team that just doesn't exist. Ping-pong balling between disjointed unconnected points that just don't make sense ... because you feel like you need to defend the team.

Its true, some people like myself put more focus on the negative, in spite of the great record ... that's not disrespecting the team ... some of it is just trying to analyze how the team can get better.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 12/2/2022 1:07:48 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 1:48:16 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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Status: offline 		Why the string of logical posts to Phil? Do 'you people' think he will have his first-ever Ah Ha moment of clarity?

Don't bother with facts, chronology, bullet points, simple sentences... or anything.

It will all turn to mush.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 2:03:15 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

UDFAs are basically part of the draft. It is actually tougher than the draft because there is no order and it is a free for all.

That being said, early returns on our high draft picks are not good but hopefully will improve.

They are connected … one cant happen without the other … but they are two vastly different, separate processes.

Give credit for finding undrafted talent … but saying we drafted well because we signed an undrafted punter after the draft is absurd.


Phil is a FOD... Front Office Defender.

Just like he blames losses and failed seasons on injuries. In the offseason he was mourning the loss of some 2nd-3rd stringer as a big reason the team faltered.

For him, it's living vicariously siding with "management". His upper crust.


9-2 is my response; they are doing things right.

How do you feel about your Laker FO right now?

Do you see me defending the TWOLVES FO or Twins FO right now? Vikings FO has done it right.

Lecture 5693

9-2 is universally understood. Everybody feels great about that. IMO this fact is lost on you (and others).

Some of us can feel great about our record and still debate the team's shortcomings.

For instance, you might think of someone like Bill as the salty uncouth barbarian apocalyptic biker dude in Raising Arizona, who rides around throwing grenades at bunnies. I know I do.

IMO you invite that kind of attack by myself and others by compulsively throwing out lame excuses for an infallible version of the team that just doesn't exist. Ping-pong balling between disjointed unconnected points that just don't make sense ... because you feel like you need to defend the team.

Its true, some people like myself put more focus on the negative, in spite of the great record ... that's not disrespecting the team ... some of it is just trying to analyze how the team can get better.


Oh, must I spell out Kwesi's draft prowess for people...

First, Ingram, Evans, and the punter are starting. That is 9-2 success.

Secondly, the players you wanted to draft have been marginal. See the connection?

Finally, just what has the front offices of your favorite teams in other sports accomplished? HmmMMm? Riddle me that.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 2:04:12 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 2:23:18 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Why the string of logical posts to Phil? Do 'you people' think he will have his first-ever Ah Ha moment of clarity?

Don't bother with facts, chronology, bullet points, simple sentences... or anything.

It will all turn to mush.

Its kinda like throwing punches at the Swamp Thing. You think you’re going to land something good but your hand just sinks in with no effect.

You move on. Eventually you come back, and then ‘the dull yellow eye opens’ again.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 2:59:47 PM   
TJSweens


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Why the string of logical posts to Phil? Do 'you people' think he will have his first-ever Ah Ha moment of clarity?

Don't bother with facts, chronology, bullet points, simple sentences... or anything.

It will all turn to mush.

Its kinda like throwing punches at the Swamp Thing. You think you’re going to land something good but your hand just sinks in with no effect.

You move on. Eventually you come back, and then ‘the dull yellow eye opens’ again.



Best description of debating Phil I've ever read.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 3:02:34 PM   
kgdabom

 

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Adam Awes
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, the Vikings have played the 9th hardest schedule so far. The Vikings record is 9-2.

Teams that have had an easier schedule so far:
- 49ers (32nd)
- Eagles (29th)
- Cowboys (22nd)
- Dolphins (20th)
- Chiefs (15th)

But the Vikings seem to be the only fraudulent team🤔



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2022 3:29:16 PM   
TJSweens


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Status: online 		Except nobody said the Vikings are a fraudulent team. The pocket goal posts have moved again.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 9:53:32 AM  2 votes
Ricky J


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https://twitter.com/SeanBormanNFL/status/1599162985225719809?s=20&t=ppivgvgjv_ErAlLMJj-mSw
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 11:34:49 AM   
Bill Jandro

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 11:52:14 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 11:59:24 AM   
HL OSWALD

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 12:03:29 PM   
joejitsu

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 12:07:04 PM   
joejitsu

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 12:07:52 PM   
ronhextall


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 12:08:09 PM   
stfrank

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 12:09:21 PM   
joejitsu

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 12:10:38 PM   
stfrank

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/4/2022 3:21:03 PM   
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