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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 6:39:58 PM   
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It only relates to UFAs. Actual FA, you know guys who have already been released.  They can sign anywhere.

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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 6:44:53 PM   
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wow, i thought i was somewhat savvy when it came to free agent definitions

i never knew there was an UFA category and an Actual Free Agent category



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/6/2009 6:46:12 PM   
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Glad to know those Packers got fines. I think Al Harris' should have been a lot more than $5000 because he really whipped Berrian's head around.
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 6:47:55 PM   
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I thought guys who have already been released have no restrictions and thus are unrestricted.  There is a designation besides unrestricted and restricted?
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 7:21:09 PM   
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brett farve named fedex air player of the week

sorry bill

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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 7:27:23 PM   
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Who got ground player?
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 7:28:22 PM   
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 7:34:14 PM   
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Thanks. I could have checked but I was too lazy.
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 7:52:14 PM   
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Goodell transcript before congress

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_13713584
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 7:55:23 PM   
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Folks are jumping the gun on CT. Look for 29 to make a big contribution in the second half, he always has 1-2 games where he has a couple of big TD plays...29 is due! Still has plenty left in the tank.


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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 8:09:37 PM   
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Goodell transcript before congress

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_13713584

Translation:  "We hid vital information from our players, the courts told us that we were wrong to do so, and now I want you guys to clean up my mess for me."

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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 10:11:15 PM   
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House subcommittee chairman: Congress doesn't want to intervene in NFL's dispute with Vikings' Kevin and Pat Williams.
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The prevailing wisdom of the day, however, was that Congress should not get involved.
"I use the analogy of a man using a shotgun to kill the ant that crawled into his house," said Gabriel Feldman, director of the Sports Law Program at Tulane University.
"Here, we're not sure if the ant is even in the house."
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RE: Safety - 11/6/2009 10:15:49 PM   
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Shooter Now: Jerry Burns says protecting Brett Favre easier than protecting Fran Tarkenton
http://www.twincities.com/ci_13702587?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com
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Jerry Burns, who long has been a big fan of Brett Favre, was Fran Tarkenton's offensive coordinator when Bud Grant coached the Minnesota Vikings.
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A year ago, Burns, as a Vikings fan, was salivating at the possibility of Favre joining the Vikings.
"I like how well he moves inside of the pocket," Burns said. "He finds a throwing lane and moves around and finds a receiver. When he sees an open man, he lets him have the ball.
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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 10:35:16 AM   
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Misleading headline. He is saying that the rule changes are allowing the lines to protect the qb better, not that one qb is better than another.
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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 10:49:31 AM   
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Goodell transcript before congress

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_13713584

"At the core of what is in our collective bargaining agreement, there's an agreement not to sue outside the system. They have done that and challenged the system. How that impacts the overall collective bargaining agreement ... we have many issues we have to deal with. "

They'll never get any help with this, you can't collectively bargain away due process and available redress. You can agree to alternative arbitration of grievance but the process must be fair. We all live under the same laws of the land called the constitution. The fourteenth amendment states that no law can be passed which denies due process.
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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 11:24:39 AM   
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I thought that this was interesting and true...


Vikings' Hutchinson not playing up to reputation


Much was made of Vikings OLG Steve Hutchinson committing his first penalty in 27 games in Week Seven against the Steelers, an apparent testament to his discipline. But Hutchinson, long one of the most dependable linemen in the NFL, hasn't played up to his sterling reputation this season. He hasn't been bad, but a back injury clearly has limited his power and execution. A handful of mistakes — most notably, allowing a blocked field goal at the end of the half against the 49ers and getting walked back on the sack that caused a fumble recovery against the Steelers — show that Hutchinson doesn't anchor as well against powerful defensive linemen. In fact, D-linemen with great drive have given him fits at times this season, and though the Vikings are nowhere near considering benching Hutchinson, we are hearing that this problem has sounded a few alarms amongst the coaches.
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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 12:33:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: diggidydog

I thought that this was interesting and true...


Vikings' Hutchinson not playing up to reputation


Much was made of Vikings OLG Steve Hutchinson committing his first penalty in 27 games in Week Seven against the Steelers, an apparent testament to his discipline. But Hutchinson, long one of the most dependable linemen in the NFL, hasn't played up to his sterling reputation this season. He hasn't been bad, but a back injury clearly has limited his power and execution. A handful of mistakes — most notably, allowing a blocked field goal at the end of the half against the 49ers and getting walked back on the sack that caused a fumble recovery against the Steelers — show that Hutchinson doesn't anchor as well against powerful defensive linemen. In fact, D-linemen with great drive have given him fits at times this season, and though the Vikings are nowhere near considering benching Hutchinson, we are hearing that this problem has sounded a few alarms amongst the coaches.


What's the point of the premise? I'd say he is playing up to his reputation, Steve Hutchinson with "a back injury [that] clearly has limited his power and execution". Do they expect that Steve Hutchinson with "a back injury [that] clearly has limited his power and execution" should be playing at the level of a Steve Hutchinson without said injury?
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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 2:45:20 PM   
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JC, I agree that 30 years old is generally the break point for a RB. But I think it might be different in Chester's case, just because he has avoided the wear and tear of a lot of RB's, being a backup for a lot of his career. As someone (Chilly?) said: "He's still got a lot of wiggle in him."

I still think it's all about money and thoughts on regression. If they think he can be productive for another 2-3 years and he's willing to play backup for this team (both money and position-wise) then I could still see him back.


The deal is this with The Molester if he wants to lay it all out and be a feature back at his age he might get through one good year and have a high production rate then be silly putty after that. His age and the bumps and bruises will catch up to him and end his career soon . If he wants to hang around and be AD's caddy and play 3rd and passing downs and chip in when AD needs a blow then he can easily stretch his career for another 3 or 4 productive years .

It really all comes down how much of what he has left does he want throw on the table and how fast he wants to throw it !!! Personally I think he would be crazy not to want to come back and extend his career !


First off, Chester Taylor doesn't really gives us a complimentary skill set to Peterson.  As pointed out here by a great poster, he is more Peterson lite than he is a good change of pace.

Second, he slowed down 3 years in a row now.

Third, you can get good young backs that are more explosive to come in here.

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JC - 11/7/2009 3:32:44 PM   
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you can get good young backs


How about getting another Adrian Peterson ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_N._Peterson

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RE: JC - 11/7/2009 4:54:35 PM   
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you can get good young backs


How about getting another Adrian Peterson ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_N._Peterson


I've never quite got your fascination with him.

He's 30 years old, in his 8th year and has a career of 1260 yards (4.1), 8 TDs and 6 Fumbles.
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RE: JC - 11/7/2009 5:28:27 PM   
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Just caught up, out of town some this week...

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Can't remember who said Palomalu shouldn't be on the "dirty" list, just look at the Pitt tape when he dove at Percy's knees in the mold of Harris (who should have made the list!).

Points I haven't seen mentioned much:
If Edwards would play consistently like he did against the Pack, instead of disappearing every other game, we'd be kicking some serious butt!
Not sure why Robison doesn't get more snaps during Ray's down games..
Jimmy Kennedy is our Cedric-story (on a lesser scale) kid has really played well when in there.

Wondering about Reynaud and hoping Chili isn't dumb enough to have Percy doing PR, it was glaring in Pre-season that he's not comfortable fielding punts and Johnson/Reynaud (esp Reynaud) are both very good at it.

Wish we'd have picked up someone like Milloy or McCallister to plug into Ty-Jo's spot for the 2nd half.
As someone mentioned, are Sanford, Frampton, Abdullah so sucky that they wouldn't be better than Ty-Jo?
Or is it Frazier that's got Johnson running in circles? (can't imagine it's Leslie's fault Ty-Jo won't use his arms when tackling).

Anyways, stoked about 7-1!!
Bring on the Kitties!!

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RE: JC - 11/7/2009 5:35:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

Just caught up, out of town some this week...

Packer Sweep=
PRICELESS!!

Can't remember who said Palomalu shouldn't be on the "dirty" list, just look at the Pitt tape when he dove at Percy's knees in the mold of Harris (who should have made the list!).

Points I haven't seen mentioned much:
If Edwards would play consistently like he did against the Pack, instead of disappearing every other game, we'd be kicking some serious butt!
Not sure why Robison doesn't get more snaps during Ray's down games..
Jimmy Kennedy is our Cedric-story (on a lesser scale) kid has really played well when in there.

Wondering about Reynaud and hoping Chili isn't dumb enough to have Percy doing PR, it was glaring in Pre-season that he's not comfortable fielding punts and Johnson/Reynaud (esp Reynaud) are both very good at it.

Wish we'd have picked up someone like Milloy or McCallister to plug into Ty-Jo's spot for the 2nd half.
As someone mentioned, are Sanford, Frampton, Abdullah so sucky that they wouldn't be better than Ty-Jo?
Or is it Frazier that's got Johnson running in circles? (can't imagine it's Leslie's fault Ty-Jo won't use his arms when tackling).

Anyways, stoked about 7-1!!
Bring on the Kitties!!



I have been rough on him but if he keeps this up I will have to start referring to him as Phat Jimmy instead of Fat Jimmy !!!

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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 6:27:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: eduardo5046

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

JC, I agree that 30 years old is generally the break point for a RB. But I think it might be different in Chester's case, just because he has avoided the wear and tear of a lot of RB's, being a backup for a lot of his career. As someone (Chilly?) said: "He's still got a lot of wiggle in him."

I still think it's all about money and thoughts on regression. If they think he can be productive for another 2-3 years and he's willing to play backup for this team (both money and position-wise) then I could still see him back.


The deal is this with The Molester if he wants to lay it all out and be a feature back at his age he might get through one good year and have a high production rate then be silly putty after that. His age and the bumps and bruises will catch up to him and end his career soon . If he wants to hang around and be AD's caddy and play 3rd and passing downs and chip in when AD needs a blow then he can easily stretch his career for another 3 or 4 productive years .

It really all comes down how much of what he has left does he want throw on the table and how fast he wants to throw it !!! Personally I think he would be crazy not to want to come back and extend his career !


First off, Chester Taylor doesn't really gives us a complimentary skill set to Peterson.  As pointed out here by a great poster, he is more Peterson lite than he is a good change of pace.

Second, he slowed down 3 years in a row now.

Third, you can get good young backs that are more explosive to come in here.


I just saw the replacement for both Chester & Tahi.

Gerhart just bulldozed Oregon for 220 yards.

He is big enough for FB, a little shifty but not overly fast, but he makes good cuts.

This is the guy we need to be a lead blocker because he can also run.
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RE: Safety - 11/7/2009 7:06:09 PM   
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Good call MarkSP!

"Not sure why Robison doesn't get more snaps during Ray's down games."

Robison has regressed.  At one point he seemed better than Edwards. 

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RE: Safety - 11/8/2009 12:49:57 AM   
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Good call MarkSP!

"Not sure why Robison doesn't get more snaps during Ray's down games."

Robison has regressed.  At one point he seemed better than Edwards. 




How can you tell he never sees the field anymore ! That article about Allen never taking a down off had stats in there that show how his snaps have dropped the last couple of years . If I remember right his snaps are like 1/2 of what they were just two years ago ! Now Jimmy Kennedy is also getting some of the snaps he used to get at the tackle spot on passing downs !

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