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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/6/2018 11:28:37 AM   
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Reporter: What makes LeBron hard to guard?

Pop: Have you watched LeBron play before? … He’s LeBron James, that’s what makes it difficult to guard him.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/12/lebron-james-gregg-popovich-lakers-spurs-quote-video
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/6/2018 12:20:18 PM   
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Lakers have offered Lonzo Ball in a trade for John Wall

On Dec. 15, teams throughout the NBA will be able to trade their summer free agent acquisitions and the Los Angeles Lakers are expected to be one of the more active teams because, historically speaking, LeBron James led teams always are.

The Lakers have been patient with their young core and it’s worked out for them so far, but there are rumors that they’re looking to pair James with five-time All-Star John Wall and Lonzo Ball could be a casualty of that trade.

Source No. 1, a current NBA agent, surprised me by saying the story was true. The source said it’s something Rich Paul — agent to LeBron James and, as of January 2016, John Wall — was orchestrating. But, according to this source, the Wizards were saying no.

I was still dubious, so I checked with Source No. 2, another current NBA agent who’s at least as dialed in as Source No. 1. Source No. 2 said the rumor is true. This source said Ball and Caldwell-Pope were definitely in the deal, but that there was still discussion whether the third player would be Ingram, Josh Hart, or Kyle Kuzma. While the boundaries of the deal were defined, details still had to be finalized, and the whole thing could still fall apart.

As the article states, Wall is represented by Rich Paul of Klutch Sports, who also represents LeBron James. That alone has been enough to stir up trade rumors in the past.

However, if two different NBA agents are confirming the rumor, there must be some smoke to the fire. For the Lakers’ case, let’s hope it’s just smoke.

Last summer, Wall signed an extension with the Wizards that will pay him a total $207 million through 2023. Starting next season, Wall’s annual salary will start at $38 million. He has a player option worth $47.3 million in 2022.

Wall is a talented player, but that’s a lot of money; money the Lakers will have to save if they want to chase a superstar free agent next summer or pursue a trade for Anthony Davis — another Klutch Sports client — if the opportunity presents itself.

It would also be hard to justify the Lakers giving up on Ball less than 100 games into his NBA career. Ball, for all of his faults, has been a productive player for L.A. and has shown signs of steady improvement this season.

As the Feb. 7 trade deadline approaches, we’ll get a better idea of how much there is to this rumor, but for now it’s just a rumor. For both Ball and the Lakers’ sake, let’s hope it stays just that.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/6/2018 12:20:45 PM   
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That's...not a good trade for the Lakers.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/6/2018 12:50:32 PM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/6/2018 2:09:04 PM   
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That's...not a good trade for the Lakers.

I don't think Lonzo will ever be special. Wall has a HUGE contract, but he is VERY Good.

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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 8:40:50 AM   
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Obviously, not having Booker hurts, but Phoenix can look really, really awful.

Last two games they were outscored 70-18 in the 1st quarter.

I think it's time Igor puts Melton in the starting lineup. Okobo is having trouble even getting the ball up court.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 8:42:48 AM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:22:44 AM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:25:19 AM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.

Hopefully Magic and Rob "Lowe" Pelinka don't give in to LBJ and sign Carmelo.

Let Kuzma and Ingram keep developing and hopefully work Wagner in a little bit.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:25:47 AM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.



They are the team most talked about as far as deconstruction. Beal isn't shooting as well this season but its relatively early. Porter IMO is overpriced. He's one of those guys you either sign or lose for no return. Oubre is wildly inconsistent but because he is young he defaults to having 'potential'. The rest of them are just guys.

Grunfeld is terrible.

< Message edited by Bill Johanesen -- 12/7/2018 10:29:36 AM >
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:36:30 AM   
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Fun Fact: Draymond Green has had $651K docked in fines and suspensions over his career.

More fun: Rondo is at $982K.

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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:41:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart


Probably. Beal is their most valuable trade chip.

But I don't get why the Lakers would trade their young and (reasonably) cheap talent for anyone during the season.

Kawhi, Durant, Klay, Kemba, Middleton and Butler are all unrestricted free agents. And none of them would cost players in a trade.

The only reasons I could see making a trade would be 1) If they don't think they could sign a top Free Agent in the offseason, or 2) Misguided pressure to "go for it" this season.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:48:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart


Probably. Beal is their most valuable trade chip.

But I don't get why the Lakers would trade their young and (reasonably) cheap talent for anyone during the season.

Kawhi, Durant, Klay, Kemba, Middleton and Butler are all unrestricted free agents. And none of them would cost players in a trade.

The only reasons I could see making a trade would be 1) If they don't think they could sign a top Free Agent in the offseason, or 2) Misguided pressure to "go for it" this season.

Agree.

Not sure if LBJ agrees. All those consecutive trips to the Finals will make a person want everything now, not what is best for team in long run.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 11:56:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart


Probably. Beal is their most valuable trade chip.

But I don't get why the Lakers would trade their young and (reasonably) cheap talent for anyone during the season.

Kawhi, Durant, Klay, Kemba, Middleton and Butler are all unrestricted free agents. And none of them would cost players in a trade.

The only reasons I could see making a trade would be 1) If they don't think they could sign a top Free Agent in the offseason, or 2) Misguided pressure to "go for it" this season.

Agree.

Not sure if LBJ agrees. All those consecutive trips to the Finals will make a person want everything now, not what is best for team in long run.


He might not agree, but no way do LeBron and Wall knock off the Warriors.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 9:45:43 PM   
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Breaking: Milwaukee is finalizing a deal to send guard Matthew Dellavedova to Cleveland, league sources tell @wojespn.

The Bucks are sending Dellavedova, John Henson and a first-round and future second-round pick to the Cavs for George Hill, Wojnarowski reports. pic.twitter.com/cKQyXdPSDL

— NBA on ESPN (@ESPNNBA) December 7,
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 10:19:32 PM   
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Breaking: Milwaukee is finalizing a deal to send guard Matthew Dellavedova to Cleveland, league sources tell @wojespn.

The Bucks are sending Dellavedova, John Henson and a first-round and future second-round pick to the Cavs for George Hill, Wojnarowski reports. pic.twitter.com/cKQyXdPSDL

— NBA on ESPN (@ESPNNBA) December 7,


I don't know this part of the game like you do, but isn't that a big price to pay for Hill?
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/7/2018 11:50:45 PM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart


Does that mean you have given up on that dream of Hart being an All-Star?

I love Hart. I know what he is, and what he can be. Nice bench player. Wright has flooded the league with Guards. Most of them are good, not great.

Beal on the Lakers would be better than Wall on the Lakers, IMO.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/8/2018 11:09:56 AM   
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Breaking: Milwaukee is finalizing a deal to send guard Matthew Dellavedova to Cleveland, league sources tell @wojespn.

The Bucks are sending Dellavedova, John Henson and a first-round and future second-round pick to the Cavs for George Hill, Wojnarowski reports. pic.twitter.com/cKQyXdPSDL

— NBA on ESPN (@ESPNNBA) December 7,


I don't know this part of the game like you do, but isn't that a big price to pay for Hill?


Hill is expiring, so I think it’s more about clearing Delly’s Contract so they can resign Middleton and Brogden next year.

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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/8/2018 11:57:05 AM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.

Hopefully Magic and Rob "Lowe" Pelinka don't give in to LBJ and sign Carmelo.

Let Kuzma and Ingram keep developing and hopefully work Wagner in a little bit.



Agreed, Carmelo is done.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/8/2018 12:01:57 PM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart


Does that mean you have given up on that dream of Hart being an All-Star?

I love Hart. I know what he is, and what he can be. Nice bench player. Wright has flooded the league with Guards. Most of them are good, not great.

Beal on the Lakers would be better than Wall on the Lakers, IMO.



The Lakers need shooters, Beal works but you'd be giving up assets and taking on his $25-30 million annual salary. Pass. No way should they take Wall's contract.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/9/2018 6:19:06 PM   
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Embid and Butler try to make nice in Phily. Embid says all the right things, Butler well???

I know he wants to win. It's frustrating, he wanted to play but coach didn't let him play. We need him longterm. He needed rest, he's been doing a lot on both ends of the floor for this team. So as our best player I can understand being frustrated. He's a hell of a player, and we'll figure out ways to make sure he's always successful.

As long as everyone on the team sees Butler as the best player, then they can get along I guess. I am SO glad he is gone.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/9/2018 10:29:26 PM   
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I think that's just conjecture. The Wizards are saddled with Wall's crazy contract.



I do think something big is going to happen with them though, trade-wise.

Apparently they all hate each other, and it shows.

Am I being a Laker homer on this trade?

Beal for Ball & Hart


Does that mean you have given up on that dream of Hart being an All-Star?

I love Hart. I know what he is, and what he can be. Nice bench player. Wright has flooded the league with Guards. Most of them are good, not great.

Beal on the Lakers would be better than Wall on the Lakers, IMO.

Dream is still alive. AC Green once made an All Star Game.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/11/2018 9:44:11 AM   
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I would like to thank Spoelstra for a win last night.

Allowing Wade to try to win game instead of better players gave Lakers the victory.
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/15/2018 4:55:04 AM   
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Amazing ineptitude. Shocked we weren’t involved...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25536887/washington-wizards-phoenix-suns-talks-trevor-ariza-trade
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RE: NBA Basketball - 12/15/2018 9:53:13 AM   
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Another exciting game in Sacramento last night. Tough loss for the Kings. Came back from 16 down in the first half, then blew a 10 point lead with 3:00 left.

They did lose Bagley early, then Shumpert later. Fox put them on his back but ran out of steam. He really is becoming so good. The Warriors were so concerned about him that they put Green on him down the stretch.
Reminds me of Westbrook a little the way he relentlessly attacks the rim. Not quite the finisher as Westbrook (who is?) but a little more under control.

They are not too far away from becoming a very good team.

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