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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 4:19:43 PM   
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The ugly side is going to be lined with that beautiful Minnesota limestone, isn't it? (like Target Field)


Nope.

There will be lots of glass in the walls, with most of the rest of the exterior covered by a zinc material that architects say will change color in different light.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 4:21:08 PM   
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such as the closest seats to the action in the NFL, or the huge event plaza, or the skyway connection to parking and LRT, or the two biggest HD scoreboards in the NFL, or the 1200 HD TVs around the building, etc.


Those are all the things that matter to me. Then again, they could do all that regardless of what it looks like from the outside. My first reaction was the same as some, it's ugly. But then again, throw some lights and purple on it, and who cares. It's the interior of the game day experience that matters, not if it looks like a Jawa Sandcrawler.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 4:49:08 PM   
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Don't hate it or love it, just really, really happy it's being built in Minnesota!!
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:09:42 PM   
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Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:12:56 PM   
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Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:15:19 PM   
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I don't see the resemblance to Marlins Park at all.


Well, the new Vikings' stadium will actually have fans in the stands, presumably.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:16:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

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Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:21:54 PM   
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And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?


40 degrees?

Realizing that most of the crowd is from out of town.

They'd want it closed.
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:31:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?

Usually you are either out on a stadium tour or an arena tour .. very little mixing due to the production responsibilties unless you are a major act with two entourages piggybacking across the country.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:38:24 PM   
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It will be interesting to see how this ETFE stuff works acoustically. We know that the Dome was loud and everything. . .will this substance that the roof is being made out of dampen the crowd noise at all?

I'm not sure how many roofs this stuff has been a part of. But it is the one of the main substances in the Allianz Arena in Germany. Check this out:



The red look is for when Bayern Munich plays at home. The blue is for when 1860 Munchen uses the stadium, and the white is for when the German National Team is using it.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:42:46 PM   
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And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?


40 degrees?

Realizing that most of the crowd is from out of town.

They'd want it closed.


I believe they let the team set the rules on the temperature during the regular season, but playoffs go under the NFL rules which are ridiculous. I think the Arizona stadium had to be closed and air conditioned if it's over 70 degrees.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 5:55:24 PM   
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Should have just done a Google search, it appears.

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Acoustic properties: ETFE cushions are acoustically fairly transparent and act as sound absorbers. This quality can be advantageous when used in a building with recreational or other loud uses, since sound will not be reflected back into the building. Since the cushions are tensile, the sound of rain hitting rooftop ETFE cushions has been compared to that of rain hitting a drum.


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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 6:03:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?


40 degrees?

Realizing that most of the crowd is from out of town.

They'd want it closed.


I believe they let the team set the rules on the temperature during the regular season, but playoffs go under the NFL rules which are ridiculous. I think the Arizona stadium had to be closed and air conditioned if it's over 70 degrees.


Correct.

And the Colts close Lucas Oil at 40 degrees or colder (although if it looks like rain or snow, they keep it closed even if warmer).
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 7:32:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?

Usually you are either out on a stadium tour or an arena tour .. very little mixing due to the production responsibilties unless you are a major act with two entourages piggybacking across the country.


So an open air stadium tour would not schedule a venue that could close the roof if the weather was bad.
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 8:03:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?

Usually you are either out on a stadium tour or an arena tour .. very little mixing due to the production responsibilties unless you are a major act with two entourages piggybacking across the country.


So an open air stadium tour would not schedule a venue that could close the roof if the weather was bad.

An arena tour would not schedule a stadium.
A stadium tour plays rain or shine.
It's not a matter of preference regarding the roof.
It's all about how many butts they can put in the seats.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 8:11:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?

Usually you are either out on a stadium tour or an arena tour .. very little mixing due to the production responsibilties unless you are a major act with two entourages piggybacking across the country.


So an open air stadium tour would not schedule a venue that could close the roof if the weather was bad.

An arena tour would not schedule a stadium.
A stadium tour plays rain or shine.
It's not a matter of preference regarding the roof.
It's all about how many butts they can put in the seats.


So an open air stadium tour would only schedule a venue that could close the roof if it was guaranteed that the roof WOULD NOT be closed.
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 9:23:18 PM   
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I heard from somebody who has a daughter that lives in San Diego, and she said that San Diego couldn't host a Super Bowl because it didn't seat enough people. Their stadium holds over 71,000 people.

If this is true, it is then true that the Vikes' new stadium won't be able to host a SB ?
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 9:39:09 PM   
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She left out the part where the stadium is old, doesn't have great amenities and has a horrible parking and traffic flow situation. That's why San Diego isn't hosting any more super bowls.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 9:44:31 PM   
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Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?

Usually you are either out on a stadium tour or an arena tour .. very little mixing due to the production responsibilties unless you are a major act with two entourages piggybacking across the country.


So an open air stadium tour would not schedule a venue that could close the roof if the weather was bad.

An arena tour would not schedule a stadium.
A stadium tour plays rain or shine.
It's not a matter of preference regarding the roof.
It's all about how many butts they can put in the seats.


So an open air stadium tour would only schedule a venue that could close the roof if it was guaranteed that the roof WOULD NOT be closed.

No ... you said they would prefer it but in reality they don't care.
Maybe I'm missing the true intent of your post.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 9:45:59 PM   
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She left out the part where the stadium is old, doesn't have great amenities and has a horrible parking and traffic flow situation. That's why San Diego isn't hosting any more super bowls.

And it's a POS.
I think 70K is the minimum for a SB.
Vikings new stadium capacity can be raised to 73K.

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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/14/2013 11:45:19 PM   
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I heard from somebody who has a daughter that lives in San Diego, and she said that San Diego couldn't host a Super Bowl because it didn't seat enough people. Their stadium holds over 71,000 people.

If this is true, it is then true that the Vikes' new stadium won't be able to host a SB ?



Sorry Marty not true at all.

Paul Tagliabue came to town in January of 2003 for the Super Bowl where Tampa clubbed the Raiders, and told everyone that would listen that the city of San Diego would have to build a new stadium if they ever hoped to get another Super Bowl. Awful Locker rooms, Luxury suites, press facilities, water pipes leaking underneath the stadium were just some reasons given as to why the NFL will not be embarrassed again in it's greatest show of the year.

Had absolutely NOTHING to do with capacity.
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/15/2013 12:03:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Impossible to build one that everyone will love at first glance. I'm happy that it's something that can be used year round. Building a retractable roof would have been so expensive for the sake of 10 Viking games. I'm glad they saved their money and still yielded something that feels more open.


Some reason a retractable roof could only be retracted for Vikings games?


They certainly wouldn't open it for a super bowl or a final four.


Concerts would prefer to be open air if the weather allowed I'm sure. And what if the Superbowl was like 40 degrees out sunny and no wind?

Usually you are either out on a stadium tour or an arena tour .. very little mixing due to the production responsibilties unless you are a major act with two entourages piggybacking across the country.


So an open air stadium tour would not schedule a venue that could close the roof if the weather was bad.

An arena tour would not schedule a stadium.
A stadium tour plays rain or shine.
It's not a matter of preference regarding the roof.
It's all about how many butts they can put in the seats.


So an open air stadium tour would only schedule a venue that could close the roof if it was guaranteed that the roof WOULD NOT be closed.

No ... you said they would prefer it but in reality they don't care.
Maybe I'm missing the true intent of your post.


Well if you go back to the original point that IF the stadium roof was retractable it would only be retracted for Vikings games, the direction of these posts kind of got lost in the minutiae.
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/15/2013 7:33:48 AM   
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Was lurking on a Packer Board to get some reaction to the Viking stadium....those guys are never happy.  Remember....Lameblow is the Mecca of football, or so they think!  LOL
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/15/2013 7:35:09 AM   
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Thanks Ian and Kurt, I wasn't really sure and was wondering if the Vikes new stadium would have the seating capacity for a SB. Thanks.
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RE: Vikes New Stadium Thread - 5/15/2013 7:45:46 AM   
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Was lurking on a Packer Board to get some reaction to the Viking stadium....those guys are never happy.  Remember....Lameblow is the Mecca of football, or so they think!  LOL

The opinions of the fans of the Packers. . .and 30 other NFL teams. . .about the Vikings' new stadium mean somewhere between Jack and Squat, and I'm pretty sure I just saw Jack leave the room.

The stadium isn't for them. It's for us. And most of us. . .the people that matter. . .think it's pretty damn sweet.

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