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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:19:43 AM   
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After glancing at our draft competition it is still a toss up.

1. Tex they are not winning another game
2 Skins at Atl but playing Cousins
3. Atl only hope for a win is Sun vs Skins
4. Vikes Not sure we will win another but Lions at dome could be a spoiler game
5. Oak Tough sched dont look for these guys to get another win


On that list, I think ATL and WAS are not taking QB


Forgot to list that the Rams have Wash pick(via RGIII)

They could want to replace Bradford?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:24:26 AM   
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Getting the right coach may be just as important as getting the right quarterback.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375967/ready-to-return-to-nfl-bill-obrien-drawing-interest-from-vikings-texans


What do you think of this choice?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:27:35 AM   
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After glancing at our draft competition it is still a toss up.

1. Tex they are not winning another game
2 Skins at Atl but playing Cousins
3. Atl only hope for a win is Sun vs Skins
4. Vikes Not sure we will win another but Lions at dome could be a spoiler game
5. Oak Tough sched dont look for these guys to get another win


On that list, I think ATL and WAS are not taking QB


Yup, however the Rams own the Redskins pick via the RG3 trade...

Been a lot of speculation on trades the Rams may be able to make...

Here's one article talking about the situation:

Another week, another day of speculation about the St. Louis Rams and their unfairly high pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, courtesy of the down-spiraling Washington Redskins. NFL.com’s Gil Brandt release a tiered grouping of the quarterback prospects this morning, listing only three signal callers that have an “above-average” chance of being drafted in the Top 10: Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, and Derek Carr. He follows that with another tiered listing of 13 NFL teams that may be in the running for a quarterback in the upcoming draft.

As of right now, Brandt has seven franchises in the “Must-Have” category, teams that are in dire need of a quarterback if they plan on turning their fortunes around next season. The “math” in this situation is exactly what the St. Louis Rams are hoping for on draft day: three Top 10 quarterbacks being hunted by seven teams; basic supply and demand.

Last week, we talked about three “likely” trade partners for the St. Louis Rams in April, including the Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns, and Minnesota Vikings. However, with the understanding that more teams may now be in the mix for their next “franchise” quarterback, it might not be a bad idea to take a look…

Houston Texans (drafting No.1 overall)

Oakland Raiders (No.5)

Tennessee Titans (No.11)

New York Jets (No.14)

Obviously, the Houston Texans do not need to trade with anyone if they are in genuine need of a quarterback, holding the top pick in the draft (i.e. the rights to Teddy Bridgewater). Between Derek Carr and Johnny Manziel, the Fresno State phenom is undoubtedly the more highly regarded prospect, but could he draw enough attention from any of these other squads to force them to move up?

You can pretty much count the New York Jets out of the equation as well, unless they “lose their way” into the Top 10. Moving from No.14 to No.2 overall is a quantum leap, and they likely do not have the will or the resources (i.e. future picks) to form a viable trade offer.

With news that the Titans have chosen to not pick up the additional-year option on Jake Locker’s contract, the writing may be on the wall for the opt-injured quarterback in Tennessee. Reports are also circulating that the Titans may be holding their breathe in hopes that Jay Cutler will test free agency at the end of the season, giving them a shot at the lone “prized” quarterback of the offseason. Moving from outside the Top 10 to No.2 overall is still a massive leap, but if the Titans feel that their window for potential takeover in the pathetic AFC South has finally arrived, they could shell out the picks to snag one of the top two signal callers in the 2014 draft class.

Lastly, the Oakland Raiders. Sitting at No.5, with a long history of making “franchise changing” moves in the Draft, the other California team could certainly put together an enticing package for the St. Louis Rams. On top of the mere draft picks that the Rams could receive, there is no doubt that Les Snead and Jeff Fisher would love the idea of a “double trade down” out of the Top 10. In a dream scenario, the Rams could essentially trade the right to Derek Carr, then trade the right to Johnny Manziel, likely taking home a king’s ransom of high picks in both the 2014 draft and future drafts.

Draft day is one of the most unpredictable events on the NFL calendar, especially following the implementation of the new rookie wage. However, with seven teams potentially fighting over three players, this year could be shaping up to be the craziest of them all in the Top 10!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:27:47 AM   
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1 Houston Texans 2-11 0.538
2 St. Louis Rams (WAS) 3-10 0.538
3 Atlanta Falcons 3-10 0.559
4 Minnesota Vikings 3-9-1 0.491
5 Oakland Raiders 4-9 0.473
6 Jacksonville Jaguars 4-9 0.503
7 Cleveland Browns 4-9 0.527
8 Buffalo Bills 4-9 0.533
9 Tampa Bay 4-9 0.556
10 Pittsburgh Steelers 5-8 0.470

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:33:01 AM   
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If we win and the teams 5-9 lose we could free fall to 9th

If we lose out we could gain one spot from the Wash/Atl game loser

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:35:57 AM   
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Sunday slant: Vikings still fight for Frazier
By Tim Yotter
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Posted Dec 15, 2013

Say what you will about the Vikings’ losses this season, but the players really haven’t given up … on themselves or Leslie Frazier. In deciding Frazier’s fate, there are numerous factors to consider.

There is still fight in Leslie Frazier.

The Minnesota Vikings coach isn’t one to show his emotions, or his true feelings, to the outside world. During a wild finish against the Baltimore Ravens, FOX commentators talked about the drastic differences in emotions exuding from Ravens coach John Harbaugh and Frazier.

You feel each tense moment in Harbaugh’s actions: bending, twisting, working the refs, shouting at players. On the opposite side is Frazier, contemplative and surely sorting through a range of emotions with the game in front of him, not the least of which were several questionable calls (OK, let’s be honest, they were brutal, wrong and cost the Vikings a chance to kneel down on the ball for the win, but in a game that meant little to the Vikings’ playoff hopes, it was hard to get too bent on a bad officiating performance).

The game might have had significant meaning for Frazier’s future, however. The Vikings have shown time and again this season they are good enough to play with division contenders in the NFC and AFC. They even played right along with the team considered the best in the NFL – the Seattle Seahawks – before Christian Ponder gifted that one away in the second half.

Still, the Vikings have also shown they aren’t closers. Not this year, anyway, and that leads to wondering if Frazier and his coaching staff are good enough in the battle of the minds, whether that is in-game adjustments, making the right calls in personnel, or week-before preparations.

This much I know: Frazier is a top-notch human being in the way he treats people. He is patient beyond comprehension, an incredible quality for interpersonal communication. But is he too patient with his players and coaches? In some instances, yes.

He stuck with Ponder – for the most part – until the postseason was lost. He stuck with defenders that struggled at times. But through it all, his players have stuck with him, too, and that shouldn’t be underestimated as owners and management decide Frazier’s future.

“He’s definitely been holding things together,” receiver Greg Jennings said. “As far as the future, I don’t know – just like from a player’s standpoint, we don’t know, we don’t control that. That all goes from upstairs, down. All we can do is control what we do and that’s what he’s been doing as a head coach, and making sure that he’s been hitting the points of emphasis. It’s about us executing.”

Time and again, NFL coaches preach about the fine line between a win and a loss – a play here or there – and no one knows that more than the 2013 Minnesota Vikings. They have lost four games and tied another when they led with less than a minute left.

Was it execution or was it schematic failure? The ultimate judgment on that is for better football minds with more skin in the game, but it’s likely some combination of both.

There is an emerging philosophy, however, that the Vikings’ schemes, especially the Tampa-2 base defense, are becoming antiquated. That is Frazier’s baby but run by defensive coordinator Alan Williams.

“We’ve been in all these ballgames for the most part, aside from a couple. They’ve been just tight games that we just fall short on,” linebacker Chad Greenway said. “Obviously, we’ve talked. It’s not the effort. It’s not that. We’re preparing well. We’re practicing well. We’re just not making the critical plays at that time to get off the field or to drive on offense or to do whatever to win a game, basically. So I think we’re all on board.”

Greenway credited the locker-room leadership for helping players stay together while knowing that little playoff hope remained in November. He said players hold each other accountable in meetings, but there has been a remarkable lack of public finger-pointing between players, and between coaches and players.

Looking at the mess with the Washington Redskins’ quarterback, coaching and ownership imbroglio, there is something to be said for the way the Vikings have handled a trying situation.

For whatever reason, quite possibly his tangible and intangible leadership qualities, Frazier hasn’t lost his players.

“I think that you would see no fight in the guys within this locker room (if Frazier lost the players),” Jennings said. “The one thing I can say about guys in this locker room is we stick together like glue. No matter what the outcome has been, we fought. Last week after the game, hard loss – some would say it’s a devastating loss – the vibe in the locker room amongst the guys that fought throughout that game, it wasn’t like ‘Oh my gosh;’ it was more like ‘Man, that one got away.’ No matter what the outcome, we all take ownership in a loss or win.”

Two out of three losing seasons doesn’t bode well for Frazier’s chances to keep the job, but there are several factors to consider.

With better quarterback play, would this have been a playoff team? In the NFC North, it’s hard to say they wouldn’t have been in the thick of it. Frazier had little to do with his available quarterback options, but ultimately he is the one that stuck with Ponder instead of a move to Cassel when the playoffs were still a possibility.

What if Frazier was retained and much of his staff under him were replaced? In some ways this makes sense. Frazier has a quality about him that makes those surrounding him want to play for him, but the schemes – or at least what is being called at certain times – has to be questioned. This would almost have to be a move forced upon him because he can be loyal to a fault.

In most coaching changes, teams tend to go for the opposite of what they had. The loose ways of Mike Tice were replaced by the rigid Brad Childress, who was replaced by the relaxed Frazier. At every turn, Frazier has been easy to like, but if management and ownership replace him with an established, powerful entity, it could also take away from the power of general manager Rick Spielman, creating an interesting dynamic in the decision.

All involved know the NFL is a results-oriented business. Wins matter most and the Vikings have been on the losing end more often than not because of last-minute collapses. What does that mean for the future of Frazier and his staff (if they are connected together)?

It’s likely not good news for Frazier, but it’s also not a slam dunk that he’s gone. The dynamics are more complicated than meets the eye.

QUICK SLANTS

Adrian Peterson wasn’t the first Vikings running back to be the target of snowball fire out East. Back in the 1970s, the Vikings were playing the Buffalo Bills in the final game of the season. Bills fans were throwing snowballs at Vikings players throughout the second half, but no one had it worse than RB Chuck Foreman. He took a direct shot to the eye, proving that it’s not always fun and games when it comes to snowballs as Ravens coach John Harbaugh suggested when Peterson was critical of Ravens fans.

No Viking has been more of a warrior this season than Greenway. Last year it was Jared Allen who played the entire season with a torn labrum because he didn’t want to have surgery in the offseason that would have taken away from the start of his season. This year, Greenway broke his wrist early in the season, had it in a cast for about three weeks, but became so frustrated with his own missed tackles that he had the cast removed and has been playing lately with a combination of heavy tape and hard plastic reinforcement so he has better use of his hand.

It’s uncertain whether or not Toby Gerhart will play against the Eagles because of a strained hamstring, but the last month has meant big money for the scheduled free agent. He has gotten more opportunities with Adrian Peterson ailing with groin and foot injuries.

“It’s been big. I’ve got this chance to really contribute these last few weeks and get multiple carries. It’s been good,” Gerhart said. “It’s fun to help the team and to play pretty well.

“… I know my chances are going to be limited playing behind (Peterson), but when you get a chance, try to make the most of it.”

Cordarrelle Patterson ranks second in the NFL in all-purpose yards with 1,629 – second to Eagles RB LeSean McCoy at 1,744 – and Patterson is the only rookie in the top 10.

McCoy has the respect of Vikings defensive coordinator Alan Williams: “Dynamic. Dynamic in every phase. Dynamic out of the backfield. Dynamic when you have him bottled up. He’s Houdini. You think you have him bottled up and he’s right there. You look away and the next thing you know you’re looking back at the film and he’s 30 yards down the field. So, we’ll have our hands full. We have to tackle and then we have to tackle, and then we have to tackle.”

Greenway said McCoy is “unbelievable, Reggie Bush-like … just a matchup nightmare.”

Eagles QB Nick Foles leads the NFL with a 120 passer rating, 9.04-yard average gain and 9.2 touchdown percentage. He has 20 TDs and one interception.

In his only start against the Eagles in 2009, QB Matt Cassel had two touchdowns, no interceptions, and a 124.5 rating.

DE Brian Robison has six sacks in his past six games and had his fifth game in a row with a sack last Sunday.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:40:34 AM   
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Peterson and Gerhart to sit, according to Sean Jensen.

Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen 34m

#Vikings players were informed tonight that Adrian Peterson will not play against the #Eagles. Toby Gerhart also http://sulia.com/my_thoughts/7453c4ec-2c39-40cb-b013-9d6fe261b3ae/?source=twitter


Carlson's out and Fusco too.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:44:09 AM   
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Sounds like the Rams will hold an auction for the 2nd overall pick.

With Teddy already in Houston teams will be looking to leapfrog us to get the next QB.

Would Derek Carr go that high?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:51:29 AM   
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Getting the right coach may be just as important as getting the right quarterback.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375967/ready-to-return-to-nfl-bill-obrien-drawing-interest-from-vikings-texans


What do you think of this choice?


Mike Florio reported this too.

I'm not sure what I think about O'Brien but I like the idea of the Vikes making a coaching change. I've seen enough Frazier to last a lifetime.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 9:52:31 AM   
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When was O'Brien the Patriots OC?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:08:28 AM   
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When was O'Brien the Patriots OC?


For 2011 season is all I can dig up

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:10:59 AM   
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O'Brien has done well at Penn St when you consider he inherited Joe Pa's grease fire

But, its only two years and they didn't win the Big 10 or anything extrordinary.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:31:28 AM   
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Like Frazier, he seems to be a guy who no one will say a bad word about his character. I honestly don't know enough about him. You also want to see what your options are.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:34:22 AM   
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Some of O'Brien's friends in the #NFL maintain that he'll eventually leave PSU, just a matter of when.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
CBS Sports has a report that O'Brien has been approached by the Texans and Vikings.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:38:57 AM   
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One thing that is interesting about him is that he coached at a number of different positions. Another is that he worked under Bill Billie for four years. He was the about coach for Brady. He does have resume credibility.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O'Brien_(American_football)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:40:51 AM   
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Eagles fans and commentators are asking themselves this morning, "Can this game be as easy as it looks?"

They can't believe they are getting the Vikings with no Peterson. McCoy was looking forward to a matchup with the guy he says is the best in the NFL.

Trap game is all you hear

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:41:57 AM   
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Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
Some of O'Brien's friends in the #NFL maintain that he'll eventually leave PSU, just a matter of when.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
CBS Sports has a report that O'Brien has been approached by the Texans and Vikings.


I would jump all over him

To keep PSU respectable with all the tragedy there is a great job

Has pro experience

I would drive to State College, pick him up, and drive him to Minnesota!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:50:41 AM   
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And the Bears may be in need of a Quarterback or two!

Josh McCown has been one of the feel-good stories of the NFL this season, playing at an elite level while filling in for starter Jay Cutler this season, and, had the Bears been willing to spend one dollar more on his deal they could have been in position to extend him in-season.

Instead, the team could end up without an NFL quarterback on the roster when the free-agent market opens in March. Cutler, who returns Sunday as starter after missing about six games with injury, is an unrestricted free agent and GM Phil Emery has said it's unlikely the team will franchise. And, by Chicago's insistence on a minimum-salary benefit deal for McCown, they, per the collective bargaining agreement, can only offer McCown a one-year extension for 2014 again at the minimum-salary benefit level. McCown's performance has rendered that obsolete.

So, there is literally nothing the Bears can do between now and March, when the free-agent market opens, to negotiate with McCown. He is assured of hitting the market, and with so many college quarterbacks getting hurt and/or staying in school, and a shallow pool of NFL free-agent passers, an informal poll of GMs left me very confident McCown will have suitors.

Had the Bears offered him literally $840,001 (and not $840,000) when signing him, they could have protected their right to extend his deal. Had they put in a bonus package that rewarded him per start, they could have retained the ability to work out a deal with McCown in January or February -- after the season but before free agency begins. Had they included $100,000 in Not Likely To Be Earned bonuses, they could have achieved the same thing.

One could make the argument that McCown, as a journeyman who has been out of the league for spells, wouldn't deserve more than the absolute minimum, but, it's also worth noting that it's very rare for a team to have its No. 2 quarterback on such a bare-bones contract. The Browns, for example, gave Brian Hoyer $1M a year when they signed him late in the offseason.

Few could have predicted McCown would play this good, but then again, coach Marc Trestman is a quarterback guru. McCown is the rare backup who actually has been able to become close with Cutler -- a tough nut to crack -- and this is also the first time McCown, a third-round pick by Arizona in 2002, has actually had some talent around him and a system that plays to his strengths.

The GMs I reached out to did not think it was in any way out of the question McCown fetches offers worth $3.5M-$5M per season, and some thought that, if he had the opportunity to continue playing and got the Bears into the postseason, a deal in the range of Alex Smith's ($7.5M per year) would not have been out of the question.

Perhaps, through injury or otherwise, McCown will get that opportunity, but either way he has greatly raised his earning potential. And with Cutler likely eyeing a deal at the very least in the range of Matt Stafford's $15M/season and quite possibly more like Tony Romo's ($18M per season), the Bears will have big decisions to make, and, it could turn out that by being so pennywise with McCown, they ended up looking pound foolish.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:51:23 AM   
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Some of O'Brien's friends in the #NFL maintain that he'll eventually leave PSU, just a matter of when.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
CBS Sports has a report that O'Brien has been approached by the Texans and Vikings.


I would jump all over him

To keep PSU respectable with all the tragedy there is a great job

Has pro experience

I would drive to State College, pick him up, and drive him to Minnesota!



I take it you think this guy can coach

I hear he is on the short list for the Texas job after Saben

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:51:42 AM   
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Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
Some of O'Brien's friends in the #NFL maintain that he'll eventually leave PSU, just a matter of when.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
CBS Sports has a report that O'Brien has been approached by the Texans and Vikings.


I would jump all over him

To keep PSU respectable with all the tragedy there is a great job

Has pro experience

I would drive to State College, pick him up, and drive him to Minnesota!



amazing that we've already been in contact with prospects....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:52:59 AM   
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After glancing at our draft competition it is still a toss up.

1. Tex they are not winning another game
2 Skins at Atl but playing Cousins
3. Atl only hope for a win is Sun vs Skins
4. Vikes Not sure we will win another but Lions at dome could be a spoiler game
5. Oak Tough sched dont look for these guys to get another win


On that list, I think ATL and WAS are not taking QB


Forgot to list that the Rams have Wash pick(via RGIII)

They could want to replace Bradford?


I would

IMo< Bradford is a Steve Beurlein type of guy

Decent, never be a star

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:53:39 AM   
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Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
Some of O'Brien's friends in the #NFL maintain that he'll eventually leave PSU, just a matter of when.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
CBS Sports has a report that O'Brien has been approached by the Texans and Vikings.


I would jump all over him

To keep PSU respectable with all the tragedy there is a great job

Has pro experience

I would drive to State College, pick him up, and drive him to Minnesota!

Meet you there John, we'll do a "field of dreams" kidnapping and drive his ass to MN.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:55:08 AM   
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Vikings still fight for Frazier

Bull, if they did they would not have just 3 wins

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 10:56:18 AM   
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Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
Some of O'Brien's friends in the #NFL maintain that he'll eventually leave PSU, just a matter of when.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 5m
CBS Sports has a report that O'Brien has been approached by the Texans and Vikings.


I would jump all over him

To keep PSU respectable with all the tragedy there is a great job

Has pro experience

I would drive to State College, pick him up, and drive him to Minnesota!

Meet you there John, we'll do a "field of dreams" kidnapping and drive his ass to MN.

Amen Brother!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2013 11:02:09 AM   
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After glancing at our draft competition it is still a toss up.

1. Tex they are not winning another game
2 Skins at Atl but playing Cousins
3. Atl only hope for a win is Sun vs Skins
4. Vikes Not sure we will win another but Lions at dome could be a spoiler game
5. Oak Tough sched dont look for these guys to get another win


On that list, I think ATL and WAS are not taking QB


Forgot to list that the Rams have Wash pick(via RGIII)

They could want to replace Bradford?


I would

IMo< Bradford is a Steve Beurlein type of guy

Decent, never be a star


I believe this is the first year that they could actually dump Bradford and not take salary cap hit.

It would be great to be in the Rams situation right now. If they were selling stock I would buy in. They have Wash #1 pick in 2014&15 which will be high picks plus their own. They have a good coach and a very good defense. They 'll probably stay with Bradford one more year but if they are not satisfied they have the bullits to go after Winston in 2015

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