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kgdabom -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/25/2017 10:15:02 PM)

Too close but another win for the Lynx on ESPN 2 tonight. Maya with a big game offensively and defensively.




Sandman -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/27/2017 4:44:49 PM)

Rand

As far as a Plan C goes, Williams Arena is a very good option for a basketball team.

Lynx head coach Cheryl Reeve said as much Thursday in reacting to the news that her basketball team will play the 2017 postseason in Williams Arena on the U of M campus.

On general principle, though, another venue change has Reeve frustrated.

“No, it’s not OK from the standpoint that it sucks we’re in this position,” Reeve said after practice Thursday, before the 17-2 Lynx prepared to fly to Atlanta for a game Friday. “But what we do as women is we’re resilient. Unfortunately, we find ourselves in these situations often.”




Sandman -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/27/2017 4:45:47 PM)

Spare me




twinsfan -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/27/2017 6:30:36 PM)

She has a point.




David Levine -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/27/2017 7:12:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

She has a point.


Agreed.

The 3rd time they've had to change arenas in a year - this time to accommodate preseason NHL.

And they're being moved to an arena that is so unprepared for summer play that the Lynx have to pay to have temporary AC installed.




Sandman -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/27/2017 7:18:18 PM)

Does every single slight have to mean sexism? Or some sort of ism? The WNBA is being subsidized by the NBA. The ladies will have to endure a slight inconvenience. The WNBA, I'm assuming, loses money. They should feel lucky they have a league in the first place. The quality of their product is nearly unwatchable at times. Sorry if that hurts people's feelings.

The Vikings played at TCF for two years. That's the way it goes.




SoMnFan -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/30/2017 10:15:57 PM)

As usual ...
The women continue to roll
Up their record to 19-2 with a win over Seattle today.
The one Mn team that rarely disappoints.




TJSweens -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 7:53:47 AM)

Once again, Syl was unstoppable. She really can just score at will down low. Opposing centers pile up fouls and really don't slow her down at all.




David Levine -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 10:44:31 AM)

12,432 in attendance for the game. That's fantastic.




David Levine -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 10:46:41 AM)

Crazy, but fun:

Superstition or strategy? Either way, Lynx will lose opening tipoff every time
By quirky design, they haven't won an opening tip in two years.
By AARON REISS Star Tribune JULY 30, 2017 — 6:38PM

Bill Laimbeer, coach of the New York Liberty, was incredulous when he discovered how his team’s game against the Lynx would begin.

“I don’t buy it,” he said after hearing the Lynx purposefully lose each game’s opening tipoff.

But the Lynx have not had the opening possession in any of their 20 games this season. The team did not win an opening tipoff in any game last season, either.

The last time the Lynx did win one was during the 2015 season, when they did so five times. They lost four of those five games.

The motivations are murky — part strategy without statistical basis, part superstition — but the Lynx, owners of the WNBA’s best record and winners of three of the past six league titles, do not mess with what works.

And some team members would prefer not to discuss it. Coach Cheryl Reeve said only that it was “strategy.”

“Secrets, secrets are no fun, unless you share with everyone,” forward Maya Moore said. “I’m no fun. I’m not sharing.”

The team that loses the opening tipoff receives the ball to start the second and third quarters. The Lynx believe beginning the second half with a basket provides an extra jolt of momentum.

Seimone Augustus, in her 12th season with the Lynx, said losing opening tipoffs is one of multiple quirky strategies the Lynx have, examples of Reeve’s obsession with details. Augustus declined to list any others, but she believes this one has been around since Reeve became coach in 2010.

“I don’t know what other people’s scouting reports look like,” Augustus said, “but we have a miniature phone book.”

Losing the opening tip isn’t part of scouting reports, though. It is a cemented idea, one that took 6-6 center Sylvia Fowles a few games to learn after she came to the Lynx in 2015. Four of the opening tips the Lynx lost in 2015 came within a month of Fowles arriving via trade.

“Out of habit, I used to tip it and give it to us,” Fowles said. “And she [Reeve] was like, ‘No, no, no, no, no. We don’t want the jump ball.’ ”

Now, Fowles sometimes performs a “fake jump.” She crouches and looks prepared to take off but never leaves the floor. Other times, she will tap the ball to an opponent.

And when the tipped basketball comes the Lynx’s way?

“Everybody just kind of backs up,” Augustus said.

If it works for the Patriots ...

Football teams, including Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, often defer possession to the second half with hopes of finishing the second quarter with the period’s last possession and a score. They then receive the ball to start the third quarter, which could mean two touchdowns without their opponents possessing the ball.

There are far more possessions in a basketball game than in football, so the strategy doesn’t hold for Minnesota, according to Micah Adams, a stats and info specialist with ESPN. Also, Adams said, no one possession in a basketball game is more valuable than another, so having the ball to start the second and third quarters rather than first and fourth makes no difference.

The Lynx continue to lose the opening tipoff, anyway.

“The one time we win the tip and lose the game, you just associate it with that,” assistant coach Shelley Patterson said. “Whether it’s true or not.”

Patterson isn’t certain, but she believes the practice’s genesis occurred in 2011, when the Lynx won their first championship. The starting center that season, 6-2 Taj McWilliams-Franklin, rarely won the tipoff.

“She couldn’t jump higher than a credit card,” Patterson said.

There are other practices that have continued organically after becoming tied to winning, too.

The Lynx keep a bottle of Fiji water behind a toilet. When the team travels, Reeve, Patterson and assistant coach James Wade eat at the same Japanese restaurant in the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, Shoyu.

Most curiously: Bottles of MD 20/20, an inexpensive “wine-based flavored refreshment,” sits above players’ lockers. That’s another practice, Augustus said, that began in 2011.

“The only game that we lost here this season,” Patterson said, “somebody was parked in my parking spot.”

Reeve once asked Patterson whether she had been a part of other teams as superstitious as the Lynx. Patterson, an assistant with three WNBA teams before joining the Lynx in 2010, has not. She has also never experienced more success with a franchise.

“You’d be surprised the stuff that we focus on here that I never had to focus on with any other team,” Fowles said.

In Tuesday’s home victory over the Liberty, Fowles faced Tina Charles in the opening tipoff. Fowles is 2 inches taller than Charles, so she skied above her — and easily tapped the ball to Liberty guard Epiphanny Prince, who had no Lynx players around her.

“She never wins the jump,” an observant fan said of Fowles. “I don’t know why.”

The answer, of course, is that the Lynx lose in order to win.

http://www.startribune.com/superstition-or-strategy-either-way-lynx-will-lose-opening-tipoff-every-time/437407513/




twinsfan -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 11:00:52 AM)

Well, so much for that.




TJSweens -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 11:16:23 AM)

Who are we to question?




David Levine -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 11:18:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Well, so much for that.


You don't think other teams already know? Teams track everything in sports.

Do you expect Lynx games to now start with both teams actively avoiding the ball?




David Levine -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 11:24:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Once again, Syl was unstoppable. She really can just score at will down low. Opposing centers pile up fouls and really don't slow her down at all.


Best thing Reeve did in the offseason was completely transform the offense to run through Big Syl.

And credit to the other stars on the team for embracing the change.

Also, Rebekkah Brunson deserves a ton of praise for transforming her game at age 35. In her first 13 seasons she was 2-12 from 3pt range. This year she's 21/51 (41%) in 21 games. She's giving Syl more room to work in the post and dragging a big out to the perimeter since she has to be defended out there now.




TJSweens -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 11:27:34 AM)

Brunson's name gets lost in the shuffle. I think a lot of people don't realize or fully appreciated how much she contributes to winning year in and year out.




twinsfan -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 12:17:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Well, so much for that.


You don't think other teams already know? Teams track everything in sports.

Do you expect Lynx games to now start with both teams actively avoiding the ball?

Yes, and it will be funny.




TJSweens -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (7/31/2017 12:25:47 PM)

It will be like one of those Warner Bros. cartoons with Mac and Tosh, the polite gophers

You take it
Oh no no no, I insist you take
I wouldn't think of it, you take it
No, I simply can't. You take it ...




David Levine -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/1/2017 5:29:54 PM)

Also congrats to the Lynx for clinching a playoff berth with more than 1/3 of the season remaining!

(That's ridiculous)




SoMnFan -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/1/2017 7:07:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Also congrats to the Lynx for clinching a playoff berth with more than 1/3 of the season remaining!

(That's ridiculous)

That's simply amazing. [:D]




El Duderino -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/1/2017 9:32:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Brunson's name gets lost in the shuffle. I think a lot of people don't realize or fully appreciated how much she contributes to winning year in and year out.


She's the #3 all-time rebounder (behind Lisa Leslie and Tamika Catchings - pretty good company!) and the all time leading offensice rebounder. It says a lot about the players around her that she's the "forgotten" Lynx.




El Duderino -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/1/2017 9:32:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It will be like one of those Warner Bros. cartoons with Mac and Tosh, the polite gophers

You take it
Oh no no no, I insist you take
I wouldn't think of it, you take it
No, I simply can't. You take it ...


I read it with their voices in my mind.




TJSweens -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/2/2017 7:54:23 AM)

Simone Augustus is taking time away from the team for personal reasons.




kgdabom -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/2/2017 8:20:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Simone Augustus is taking time away from the team for personal reasons.

I guess with a playoff birth already clinched she and the team feel they can afford this.




SoMnFan -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/3/2017 11:23:25 PM)

Lynx win their 20th
Lindsay goes out of game with a jammed wrist
Held Atnalta to 2 points in the fourth quarter
Watched for awhile in the middle of the game, Atlanta seemed to be getting the better of us.
Then, the Lynx said .... sorry. Time for us to win. Nice to watch their kind of dominance.




Minnyme -> RE: Minnesota Lynx (8/4/2017 12:12:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Brunson's name gets lost in the shuffle. I think a lot of people don't realize or fully appreciated how much she contributes to winning year in and year out.


She's the #3 all-time rebounder (behind Lisa Leslie and Tamika Catchings - pretty good company!) and the all time leading offensice rebounder. It says a lot about the players around her that she's the "forgotten" Lynx.

She's not at all lost on the fans who've actually followed the league but sadly its mostly media who don't give her her due. They've been quick to make the Lynx all about Maya and that really short changes just how good the other 4 starters are in their own rights.
Not only is Brunson one of the best rebounders in league history but all so a great defender. She should be 1st team All-Defense if the media who vote actually watch games.




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