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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

I do want to apologize for speaking too much off the top of my head about the founding fathers and slavery. Due to Pagers challenge I have been looking into that and I have found out some interesting things. I may comment on that more, but not until I'm done looking into it.

Elsewhere please.

I agree but where. I thought about going into the politics thread, but it's a hate filled cesspool. I will just say it does make some very good reading.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

Don't you feel in certain ways that this is a false foundation?

For me, I'm willing to shoot the shit with most anyone about anything. I don't need common ground. Some people vary so greatly in their political/religious leanings that they can't look at/hear someone's alternate viewpoint. You're sort of suggesting it here but I've seen it stated when other hot button topics came up. Like the Kluwe thing. Or heard it said - 'I don't want to go into the politics section because I don't want to think less of people'.

One of the more interesting things is for me to watch people shred Trump supporters - basically grouping every one of them with the same disdain...and then head over to the football threads and be all like - hey buddy - go Vikes! with a Trump supporter.

Does it mean everything, or nothing? Sometimes I can't tell.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

I do want to apologize for speaking too much off the top of my head about the founding fathers and slavery. Due to Pagers challenge I have been looking into that and I have found out some interesting things. I may comment on that more, but not until I'm done looking into it.

Elsewhere please.

I agree but where. I thought about going into the politics thread, but it's a hate filled cesspool. I will just say it does make some very good reading.

FWIW I've been ridiculed, belittled, and insulted plenty of times - but never in the politics thread - always in the vikes thread.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I aim to keep life simple as well. It just gets away from me at times and I need to reel it back in.

I don't watch or read about the news. I'd be much better off if I'd go back to staying away from Twitter and FB that I impulsively respond to on occasion - like getting sucked into the Mad Dog video (which really describes how I feel about the media trying to control what I think) or the foxy blond holding the freeking cannon with the info, 'if you eliminated the murders in these cities with STRICT gun control laws America would have the third least gun violence in the world.' Yeah, F me with a sharp stick if STRICT isn't a relative term here.

It's not that I don't care it's just that I'm on a different journey (which is very satisfying when it isn't so damn elusive)

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I aim to keep life simple as well. It just gets away from me at times and I need to reel it back in.

I don't watch or read about the news. I'd be much better off if I'd go back to staying away from Twitter and FB that I impulsively respond to on occasion - like getting sucked into the Mad Dog video (which really describes how I feel about the media trying to control what I think) or the foxy blond holding the freeking cannon with the info, 'if you eliminated the murders in these cities with STRICT gun control laws America would have the third least gun violence in the world.' Yeah, F me with a sharp stick if STRICT isn't a relative term here.

It's not that I don't care it's just that I'm on a different journey (which is very satisfying when it isn't so damn elusive)

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So THAT'S where you were during your off-season hiatus, in Nepal studying with the Buddhist Monks. I read ya. [;)]

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

I do want to apologize for speaking too much off the top of my head about the founding fathers and slavery. Due to Pagers challenge I have been looking into that and I have found out some interesting things. I may comment on that more, but not until I'm done looking into it.

Elsewhere please.

I agree but where. I thought about going into the politics thread, but it's a hate filled cesspool. I will just say it does make some very good reading.

FWIW I've been ridiculed, belittled, and insulted plenty of times - but never in the politics thread - always in the vikes thread.

Same here.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I aim to keep life simple as well. It just gets away from me at times and I need to reel it back in.

I don't watch or read about the news. I'd be much better off if I'd go back to staying away from Twitter and FB that I impulsively respond to on occasion - like getting sucked into the Mad Dog video (which really describes how I feel about the media trying to control what I think) or the foxy blond holding the freeking cannon with the info, 'if you eliminated the murders in these cities with STRICT gun control laws America would have the third least gun violence in the world.' Yeah, F me with a sharp stick if STRICT isn't a relative term here.

It's not that I don't care it's just that I'm on a different journey (which is very satisfying when it isn't so damn elusive)

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So THAT'S where you were during your off-season hiatus, in Nepal studying with the Buddhist Monks. I read ya. [;)]

No, but I did hop a train to White Fish, MO.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

Since about 2000, middle ground in politics has slowly went away. Pretty much gone now.

We all have the same goal as Viking fans.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

Since about 2000, middle ground in politics has slowly went away. Pretty much gone now.

We all have the same goal as Viking fans.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

Since about 2000, middle ground in politics has slowly went away. Pretty much gone now.

We all have the same goal as Viking fans.

We have devolved into a society that despises anybody with a different viewpoint. It is a sad state of affairs.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What ever happened to "respectfully disagree"? I mean, we can be respectful even if we are dumbfounded.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

Since about 2000, middle ground in politics has slowly went away. Pretty much gone now.

We all have the same goal as Viking fans.

So true.

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What ever happened to "respectfully disagree"? I mean, we can be respectful even if we are dumbfounded.

Some things arent on the level of respectful disagreement. In those cases, we arent talking about tax cuts, public assistance, health care.

We are talking bigotry, discrimination, racism, other acts of hate. You cant respectfully disagree with that kind of stuff.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I have refrained from political commentary for awhile, now. I do think it is wonderful that sports can bring people together from different persuasions. There is so much dividing us, especially in the world of politics, but sports can bring us together with a common love for the games and a common longing for the thrill of victory. That's all I'll say, even though I'm interested in the current affairs as any of you. I would rather enjoy feeling closer to you.

Since about 2000, middle ground in politics has slowly went away. Pretty much gone now.

We all have the same goal as Viking fans.

We have devolved into a society that despises anybody with a different viewpoint. It is a sad state of affairs.

No. We despise the viewpoint. We're just dumbfounded that ANY person could have or maintain such a thought process and we react to them accordingly.

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What ever happened to "respectfully disagree"? I mean, we can be respectful even if we are dumbfounded.

Some things arent on the level of respectful disagreement. In those cases, we arent talking about tax cuts, public assistance, health care.

We are talking bigotry, discrimination, racism, other acts of hate. You cant respectfully disagree with that kind of stuff.

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

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What ever happened to "respectfully disagree"? I mean, we can be respectful even if we are dumbfounded.

Some things arent on the level of respectful disagreement. In those cases, we arent talking about tax cuts, public assistance, health care.

We are talking bigotry, discrimination, racism, other acts of hate. You cant respectfully disagree with that kind of stuff.

I see what you are saying. Definitely needs to be called out.

But, a lot of times, what I see though is if you don't agree with someone on things like tax cuts, public assistance or health care, somehow racism or some other 'ism' will come into play. It cheapens the real racism. Boy crying wolf type thing.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What ever happened to "respectfully disagree"? I mean, we can be respectful even if we are dumbfounded.

Some things arent on the level of respectful disagreement. In those cases, we arent talking about tax cuts, public assistance, health care.

We are talking bigotry, discrimination, racism, other acts of hate. You cant respectfully disagree with that kind of stuff.

I see what you are saying. Definitely needs to be called out.

But, a lot of times, what I see though is if you don't agree with someone on things like tax cuts, public assistance or health care, somehow racism or some other 'ism' will come into play. It cheapens the real racism. Boy crying wolf type thing.