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Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/8/2019 12:18:04 PM)
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Not worried one bit about losing Hill for 4 games....Kearse and Harris are very good (3 Safety/Nickel Safetys).
Alrighty... we can roll out Kearse at CB! Even more reason to trade Waynes!
Hill keeps the regime on their toes, "You thought I'd get busted for MJ, try PEDs suckas!"
With 'logic' like that, of course you are not worried one bit [&o]
Cmon Bill...In what other position do they have that much depth? Rhodes, Waynes, Mac, and Hughes....plus Kearse has played Nickel CB before. Hill missing 4 games, really not going to be a problem unless someone else is injured.
Chances are Hughes will not be ready to start the season
Hill is out the first 4 games
Trading Waynes would be suicide
Agreed. Whether to trade Waynes is a decision that better not be made in a vacuum of four games revolving around the idiot Hill. Instead, they are probably looking at the bigger picture:
Hill. The only proven thing about Hill is his problem with substances of all sorts. The going in position is to assume Hill finds ways to ban himself out of the league.
Mac. A FA next year, and it hasn't exactly been a lovefest.
Hughes. Unproven plus who knows how he will be after the knee.
Rhodes. Oft injured, Isn't the Rhodes from two years ago.
If we trade Waynes, next year Kearse just might have to play nickel!
alexander and kearse are not even signed for next season....
i was thrilled to have hill, but he's turned out to be a total flake - very disappointing and at this point, we can't count on him for anything...he has to reprove himself to the team starting at zero....
hughes is coming off of a major injury....
i say, give waynes an extension and lower his cap hit for a couple of seasons....
We are trying to to find two coins to rub together to extend Thielen ... who vastly deserves it. Maybe extending Waynes will free up some money that could help but, in the end, we are also adding another big ticket defensive item to the cap.
Hunter Joseph Griffith Kendricks Barr Rhodes Smith Waynes.
Cousins Diggs Reiff Rudolph Thielen
I don't know. I think if you focus hard enough, you can find weaknesses in any position of strength. From a starting talent / depth standpoint I would say DE and CB are the positions of strength on this team. (Spielman has spoiled Zimmer).
Do we move forward by holding the strength of our current roster together for as long as possible - or - do we give some of our strength away to theoretically improve the weaker parts?
Trade Waynes for a 3rd. Then for the first month of the season of 2019 roll out the following CBs:
- Outside: Rhodes
- Outside: Mac
- Slot: the AAF guy
Depth
- None, although there is a guy named James on the roster.
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That's not even worst case scenario ... that's just scare tactic.
More likely
- Outside: Rhodes
- Slot: Kearse / Maybe Mac
- Outside: Mac / Maybe first rd. pick Hughes
That we know of. There are still FINAL CB roster spots that are wide open.
And if we trade Waynes, maybe a drafted mid-round CB thrown in the mix. There will already be a late rd. one for sure.
Not to mention the 5-6 other roster-filler CBs we will be signing from after the draft through training camp.
This is for the first 2-4 games (depending on Hill's appeal) ... and then we have Hill.
I'm not even sure I would trade Waynes ... I have no idea what the progress / ETA of Hughes is ... what we could get / is being offered for Waynes ... where else we can get the cap under control moving forward ... if Waynes is in our long range plans or Alexander, etc. – too many unknonws.
I'll have to agree with you: we start the season with Rhodes and Mac, nickel unknown, depth not yet on the roster.
Nice try. If we traded Waynes - before the draft- our cb position would be - before the draft - rhodes, mac, hughes, hill (and slot Kearse) for the season. With uncertainty - before the draft - of what the cb group is going to look like before game one.
Nice try back. I thought it was implied we were talking about players who could, you know, actually play to start the season. With that in mind, let me not rephrase it but emphasize things: we start the season with Rhodes and Mac, nickel unknown, depth not yet on the roster.
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