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stfrank -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/10/2020 8:06:16 PM)

I had a feeling Zucker's time was short when he got demoted to the 4th line. Sounds like we did quite well in this deal and made some room in the top 6 for Kaprizov at the same time.
Got an offensive defense man with upside setting a move of Dumba next?? Could be a couple of interesting weeks coming up.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/10/2020 9:34:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

I had a feeling Zucker's time was short when he got demoted to the 4th line. Sounds like we did quite well in this deal and made some room in the top 6 for Kaprizov at the same time.
Got an offensive defense man with upside setting a move of Dumba next?? Could be a couple of interesting weeks coming up.



Yeap, the clock on Zucker has been down to ticks for a while now. Not sure about our return though. I guess the pick (since where he was "drafted") but damn. Those 2 guys don't jump off the screen. Salary dump and a pick is what I'm seeing. I said the other day that I think Billy is willing to let this play out, miss the playoffs, and get younger/cheaper in a rebuild. Looks that way but I'm surprised Leo is signing off for this. Not his MO so far.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/10/2020 9:36:46 PM)

BTW- if that's the new plan (because this doesn't help this year) get what you can for Staal and move him to a winner. Let him fight for a cup. He deserves it. The same argument can be made for Parise and Suter too but not sure they would accept.




Phil Riewer -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/10/2020 10:03:37 PM)

I doubt those three go anywhere....clearing Zucker's salary top 6 spot was the key according to RUsso. I think Dumba or Brodin are next as Russo and another Athletic writer Craig Constance hinted at a Wild defenseman being next. Rask and Galychuk if someone wants them.




kgdabom -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 7:29:45 AM)

Addison sounds very promising. I got this off RotoWorld.

The Pittsburgh Penguins have reportedly traded Calen Addison to the Minnesota Wild.
Addison, Alex Galchenyuk and a 2020 first round pick will be heading to the Wild in exchange for Jason Zucker. Addison was Pittsburgh's second round pick from the 2019 NHL Entry Draft. The 19-year-old is a talented offensive blueliner, evident by him picking up a goal and nine points in seven games for Team Canada, winning Gold. Addison also has 10 goals and 43 points in 39 games with the Lethbridge Hurricanes of the WHL.

SOURCE: Bob McKenzie on Twitter
Feb 10, 2020, 8:39 PM ET




twinsfan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 8:20:29 AM)

KFAN is totally blowing the importance of this Zucker trade out of proportion. So shocking. I bet Hawkey was crying.




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 8:22:44 AM)

This trade will be worth it alone, if the Carly Crushing over there ends at some point.




twinsfan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 8:30:55 AM)

Are you bummed she's not moving to Pittsburgh?




TJSweens -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 8:35:46 AM)

From Dobber prospects

Calen Addison
Minnesota Wild

Undersized puck-moving defenseman with high offensive upside. Likely a future power-play QB.

NOTE: SMF is a fan already.

Observations
February 2020 – Addison has a bright future as a power-play QB in the NHL – with Minnesota. The offensive-minded blueliner was dealt to the Wild with Alex Galchenyuk and a conditional 2020 first-round pick for forward Jason Zucker. Ending weeks of speculation, the Penguins get a badly needed forward while surrendering a former first-rounder. Mark Allan

January 2020 – Playing with great poise and confidence for Canada’s World Junior Championship-winning squad, the young blueliner enhanced his reputation as a future NHL power-play weapon. Often the only Canadian back with a man advantage, Addison tied for sixth among all scorers with nine points (including eight assists) in seven games. Following his WJC debut, he’ll return to the WHL to complete his junior stint with the Lethbridge Hurricanes before turning pro next season. Mark Allan

December 2019 – Addison unsurprisingly made the 23-man final Team Canada roster for the World Junior Championship. In a practice after the final cut was made, the offensive-minded blueliner was coupled with Bowen Byram in what should be a potent pairing. The 5-10, 181-pound Addison has seven goals and 22 assists in 31 outings during his final junior campaign with the WHL’s Lethbridge Hurricanes. Mark Allan

November 2019 – The dynamic young defenseman continues an almost-point-per-game pace as a junior. After 22 appearances, his 21 points are third among WHL blueliners and his 17 helpers are one off the league lead for back-enders. In a series pitting Canadian juniors against Russian counterparts, Addison was named WHL player of the game after he scored the overtime winner in a 2-1 decision. He had one of three WHL goals in a shootout that decided the series in favor of the Canadian hosts. Mark Allan

September 2019 – Addison was returned to the Lethbridge Hurricanes for a fourth season in the Western Hockey League. The power-play specialist needs to work on his defensive play. Mark Allan

August 2019 – Addison didn’t do a lot to distinguish himself during the 2019 World Junior Summer Showcase in Plymouth, Mich. The annual tournament is essentially a World Junior Championship tryout for Canadian, American, Swedish and Finnish prospects. He could still be named to Team Canada if a combination of Noah Dobson, Bowen Byram and Ty Smith are playing on NHL bluelines and are unavailable for the WJC. Addison, a 19-year-old power-play weapon is expected to return for a fourth campaign with the Lethbridge Hurricanes, although he has little to prove in the WHL except an interest in defense. Mark Allan

April 2019 – After his Lethbridge Hurricanes were eliminated in a seven-game opening-round playoff series to end Addison’s third full Western Hockey League campaign, he signed a three-year, entry-level deal with Pittsburgh. Although he was minus-6 in the series, Addison led all WHL blueliners in the opening round with nine points. He had six helpers with an extra man, and added a game-winning goal. In 67 league games, his 65 points (including 11 goals) were tied for 47th in the league and sixth among D-men. More than half (34) of those 65 points were on the power play, and 32 helpers solidified the impression Pittsburgh has drafted a legitimate power-play weapon. Mark Allan

January 2019 – The offensive back-end whiz is bang on at point per game in 44 outings with the Lethbridge Hurricanes. On pace to match or slightly exceed his second-year WHL numbers, Addison doesn’t have to prove his offensive skill to the Penguins. They’re going to want to see some defensive awareness. That’s what the AHL is for. Mark Allan

December 2018 – After not sticking with Canada’s world junior squad, Addison returns to Lethbridge of the WHL. The offensive dynamo has four goals and 30 assists in 32 games for the Hurricanes. Mark Allan

December 2018 – Addison is one of 34 youngsters invited to Canada’s world junior selection camp starting Dec. 10 in Victoria, B.C. Competing against 11 other talented young blueliners, Addison has the advantage of having played at the World Under-17 Hockey Challenge and was a member of the national men’s summer under-18 team at the Ivan Hlinka Memorial Cup and Hlinka Gretzky Cup. The 18-year-old righthand shot has a good chance to make Canada’s WJC team. Mark Allan

November 2018 – Addison is so far dealing fine with the elevated expectations that come with being a second-round NHL draft pick. With two goals and 14 assists for Lethbridge in his first 15 games of the WHL schedule, he’s roughly on track to match or exceed the 11 scores and 65 points he amassed in 68 outings with the Hurricanes last season. Perhaps preparing for the rigors of playing pro hockey, he projects to rack up about 100 PIMs in a full campaign. Mark Allan

September 2018 – The crafty puck-mover and potential PP weapon will hone his skills with another junior season for the Lethbridge Broncos of the WHL. As a second-round draft pick, he will be watched closely by Pittsburgh. Mark Allan

September 2018 – Fresh from being drafted in the second round, Addison is not expected to make the NHL roster right out of his first big-league training camp. However, the organization’s braintrust was pleased by the play of the smallish but quick and crafty blueliner at the Prospects Challenge in Buffalo. Quickness applies to his vision and his stickwork, which includes superior breakout passes. The 18-year-old looks like a good bet to be an NHL PP catalyst one day, although he’ll likely be returned to the Lethbridge Broncos of the WHL for at least one more campaign. Mark Allan

March 2018 – Addison began his draft year with a strong showing for Canada at the Ivan Hlinka, where he was arguably the best defenseman for Canada posting two goals and six points in five games. Selected second overall by Lethbridge in the 2015 WHL Bantam Draft, Addison is posting point per game offensive production in his second season in the WHL which makes him a very fantasy relevant prospect. The 2018 Draft is full of undersized offensive defensemen and Addison is near the top of that list.

The right shot defenseman oozes hockey sense, is a precision passer and has a decent shot, but excels at creating transition offence and distributing the puck. Skating is an asset as he moves quickly, has good mobility and agility and strong edges. Addison is smart on both sides of the puck, is positionally sound and is not shy about playing physically, albeit his effectiveness is limited even at the junior level due to his size. Peter Harling




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 8:53:14 AM)

Its almost like he reminds me of someone … can't put my finger on it …..




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 8:55:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Are you bummed she's not moving to Pittsburgh?

Here's KFAN humor for you
The show this morning …
They're urging Carly to get her hubby to ask for #69 in Pittsburgh, so that they can start a charity back here called Give 69.
Class just oozes out of that studio.




TJSweens -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:04:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Are you bummed she's not moving to Pittsburgh?

Here's KFAN humor for you
The show this morning …
They're urging Carly to get her hubby to ask for #69 in Pittsburgh, so that they can start a charity back here called Give 69.
Class just oozes out of that studio.

Hard to believe they are the #1 morning show.




Lynn G. -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:17:09 AM)

We haven't seen the scrappy, energizer bunny Zucker in quite a while. That's the player I miss. I think injuries made him too cautious, so he stopped slamming guys into boards and doing those memorable breakaways. Even when he got the puck in the open his first instinct had become to pass rather than shoot.

So even though he used to be one of my favorite players, it was time. He probably needed a new start, and so did we.

One thing I won't miss are those pre-game interviews that are always done with the player on the ice and the interviewer in the bench. Every time some Wild player was interviewed, and the rest of the team doing their skate-around warm-ups, Zucker would insert himself in the background and do a squeeze of the water bottle, letting the water fly onto the ice.

Did anyone else notice that? At first, when I noticed that it had happened multiple times, I kind of got a kick out of it because it was clear it was intentional on his part. But after about three seasons of it, it became as obnoxious as that guy who opens doors for players when Gorg does his interviews right in front of the player locker room. It seems HIS only job is to stand there and open the door for the player when the interview is done (I wonder how much they pay him for that?) and then he walks away as Gorg finishes his remarks. His final gesture is a tug on his ear, which is a direct copy of Carol Burnett's "hello" to her grandma at the end of every show.

I like a cute gesture once in a while, but come on - three or four years of it!




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:27:07 AM)

Thanks Lynn
Thought I was the only person who knew about ear-tug guy




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:27:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Are you bummed she's not moving to Pittsburgh?

Here's KFAN humor for you
The show this morning …
They're urging Carly to get her hubby to ask for #69 in Pittsburgh, so that they can start a charity back here called Give 69.
Class just oozes out of that studio.

Hard to believe they are the #1 morning show.

I hear they are huge out in the Small Falls area.




twinsfan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:29:49 AM)

Zulgad:

What a deal: Wild GM hits a home run in dealing Jason Zucker to Penguins

Bill Guerin made his first significant trade as general manager of the Minnesota Wild on Monday and it’s hard to see it as anything but a home run. In a move that came exactly two weeks before the NHL trade deadline, Guerin sent Jason Zucker to the Pittsburgh Penguins for forward Alex Galchenyuk, young defenseman Calen Addison and a 2020 first-round pick that is lottery protected.

Guerin did not an outstanding job of getting a significant return for a winger who had been demoted to the fourth line and had been the subject of trade speculation dating to last season. The nice thing about the trade is it should be a win for both sides. The Penguins were looking to replace injured winger Jake Guentzel (shoulder surgery) and now will be able to do so with Zucker. Zucker, who had 14 goals and 15 assists in 45 games this season in Minnesota, should thrive in Pittsburgh, especially if he plays on a line with Sidney Crosby.

But that doesn’t mean Guerin made any mistakes in the deal with his former boss, Penguins general manager Jim Rutherford. Guerin was Rutherford’s top assistant in Pittsburgh before becoming the Wild GM in late August after Paul Fenton was fired following only one season. In fact, Guerin was still with the Penguins when they worked out a deal last offseason that would have sent Zucker and center Victor Rask to Pittsburgh for winger Phil Kessel and defenseman Zach Johnson. Kessel, however, had the power to veto the trade and he did. He was eventually dealt to Arizona.

That marked the second time that Fenton had come close to moving Zucker. The first was at the trade deadline last season when an issue with paperwork stopped a deal with Calgary from being completed. Fenton, nonetheless, was busy in his one season on the job, dealing winger Nino Niederreiter to Carolina for Rask; winger Mikael Granlund to Nashville for Kevin Fiala; and winger Charlie Coyle to Boston for Ryan Donato.

This went a long way toward breaking up a core of young players that had never managed to help take the Wild on a deep playoff run, despite six consecutive postseason appearances. The unpopular Fenton was shown the door by owner Craig Leipold in late July but Guerin’s trade proves that Fenton, although lacking in tact, had the right idea.

The 28-year-old Zucker was a second-round pick by former Wild GM Chuck Fletcher in 2010 and departs Minnesota fourth in franchise history with 132 goals and ninth with 243 points. He had a career-high 33 goals in 82 games in 2017-18 and was signed to a five-year, $27.5 million contract extension in July 2018. While Zucker had a list of 10 teams to which he could block a trade and showed the ability to score goals, moving him began to make more and more sense.

One primary reason was because the Wild is expecting 22-year-old standout left winger Kirill Kaprizov to leave the KHL and join them next season, meaning room had to be created at that position. Zucker also had recently been moved to the fourth line by coach Bruce Boudreau and, although he was moved back to the second line during a loss to Colorado on Sunday, it was clear the continued rumors of Zucker to the Penguins were likely to become fact.

That was true in part because it was not as if Guerin has a lot of players he can deal — Zach Parise, Ryan Suter, Mikko Koivu and Mats Zuccarello are among those with no-move clauses — and replenishing an organization from which Fletcher had traded plenty in the name of going for it was necessary.

In Galchenyuk, the Wild obtains a 25-year-old who can play left wing or center and is worth a look in the final season of his contract. Galchenyuk, the third-overall pick in the 2012 by Montreal, spent his first six seasons with the Canadiens before being dealt to Arizona for Max Domi. He had 19 goals and 22 assists and was a minus-19 in 72 games with the Coyotes in 2018-19 before being obtained by the Penguins in the trade that sent Kessel to Arizona last June. Galchenyuk has had a disappointing season in Pittsburgh, scoring only five goals with 12 assists (he’s a minus-7) in 45 games.

If the Wild doesn’t like what it sees from Galchenyuk in their final 27 games this season, they can let him walk. If Guerin likes him, there’s a chance Galchenyuk will take short-term, prove-it contract. The most attractive part of the trade to Guerin had to be the first-round pick, which is lottery protected and can be pushed to 2021 if the Penguins miss the playoffs this season (that’s highly unlikely), and also adding the 19-year-old Addison.

The Penguins’ second-round pick in the 2018 draft, Addison has 10 goals and 43 points in 39 games this season to put him fifth in scoring for Lethbridge of the Western Hockey League. Four of his goals and 16 of his assists have come on the power play. Addison was a key part of Team Canada’s gold medal win at the 2020 World Juniors, scoring a goal and adding nine points in seven games. Scott Wheeler of The Athletic ranked Addison as the Penguins’ top prospect before the trade.

The Wild will enter Tuesday’s game against Vegas at Xcel Energy Center sitting five points out of a playoff spot. But Guerin’s willingness to trade Zucker is likely just the start with the deadline approaching. It won’t be surprising if he feels comfortable dealing a defenseman, Matt Dumba or Jonas Brodin are the likely candidates, with Addison now in the potential mix for 2020-21. Eric Staal, 35, has a 10-team no-trade list but also could be moved to a contender that needs a third-line center.

While coach Bruce Boudreau undoubtedly feels pressure to win this season because he’s in the final season of his contract, Guerin has no such pressure and likely realizes trying to sneak into the playoffs is a shortsighted plan for this franchise. Draft picks and prospects are far more valuable, considering they will represent hope for an organization that needs it.

Guerin, like Fenton, realized this after taking a long look at what he had. Zucker might have been a fan favorite but he needed to be traded for the right return. On Monday, Guerin found that return and proved he isn’t shy about playing let’s make a deal.




twinsfan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:33:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Are you bummed she's not moving to Pittsburgh?

Here's KFAN humor for you
The show this morning …
They're urging Carly to get her hubby to ask for #69 in Pittsburgh, so that they can start a charity back here called Give 69.
Class just oozes out of that studio.

I felt bad that I was laughing while she was crying.




kevinemmer -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:34:02 AM)

Zucker became the ultimate "coaster" player.

Do just enough, no more, the past few years.

Shoulda been benched for his "effort level" long ago, but not the Wild way with the vets.

Aaack, reminds of Zimmer way. [>:]




Lynn G. -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:35:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Thanks Lynn
Thought I was the only person who knew about ear-tug guy


I've thought about writing to Fox Sports North to beg them to stop doing their interviews at that spot, and tell them exactly why. Or maybe just have the players open the doors for themselves.




TJSweens -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:36:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

Zucker became the ultimate "coaster" player.

Do just enough, no more, the past few years.

Shoulda been benched for his "effort level" long ago, but not the Wild way with the vets.

Aaack, reminds of Zimmer way. [>:]

I was never more than lukewarm toward Zucker. He transitioned from a pure suck hole player to the one you just described.




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:47:35 AM)

Good stuff guys
Agree on your takes
Coaster is a good word for him
Just enough to tease

His world just changed
You go THERE, and you go half-assed, and you DONE
Very few people can fulfill the Pens expectations.
He'll get scrutiny like he's never felt before.
And stay calm thru the initial success, because he will probably have it. It won't last tho.




kgdabom -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:49:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Are you bummed she's not moving to Pittsburgh?

Here's KFAN humor for you
The show this morning …
They're urging Carly to get her hubby to ask for #69 in Pittsburgh, so that they can start a charity back here called Give 69.
Class just oozes out of that studio.

Hard to believe they are the #1 morning show.

I hear they are huge out in the Small Falls area.

Are you talking about my high school town of Little Falls, MN?




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 9:56:22 AM)

Yeap. This pretty much sums it up (taken from your paste):

Guerin did not an outstanding job of getting a significant return for a winger who had been demoted to the fourth line and had been the subject of trade speculation dating to last season.

I agree that he "did not an outstanding job of getting a significant return" for Zucker. We got:

A. an underachieving guy that, if he sticks, won't be significant (he won't stick).
B. a much worse player than the proven 46
C. a first round pick (this is the best of the deal)

So, all in all, a salary dump and first rounder to make way for the Russian. Don't get me wrong. It was worth it but lets not roll out the parade carpet for this. Zucker was done in Minny and this was the 'haul' Billy could get.




SoMnFan -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 10:01:04 AM)

Make the same deal with Dumba.
He's the blue liner version of Zucker, imo.




kgdabom -> RE: Wild 2019/2020 Season (2/11/2020 10:01:51 AM)

We get the Penguins 2nd round pick this year who is considered their #1 prospect, their 1st round pick this coming draft. Galchenyuk probably meaningless, but who cares. I agree with Zulgud. This was a home run.




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