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Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 9:37:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I was thinking that exact same thought during and after the game. I just really REALLY hope that we did that because we are finally smart and not because that was simply the gameplan and we got lucky. What I'm saying is that I hope the team is ready and eager to do the same thing when the situation calls for very little running, exploiting one particular matchup over and over, or any other strategy that diverges from what an old-school coach would call 'normal'. And we didn't have to show GB anything. Preseason was all vanilla so Kubiak and Step should be able to surprise GB a few times.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 9:37:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jbusse quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan quote: ORIGINAL: kurt bilben You have to love on successive plays Cousins throws a pass to Dalvin in the flat who gets tackled for no gain.Falcons LBer Deon Jones stands over Cook celebrating as the broadcast team lauds about how Jones is the best LBer in the league nobody knows about. Next play Dalvin absolutely trucks over that same Jones about 25 yards down the field. Dalvin changes the scoreboard two plays later from 19 yards out. Special player w/ better blocking bodes well. Favorite play of the game, Dalvin trucking a guy who had him lined up Dudes a real football player Still think he hits the hole faster than any back we've had I'm sure that will get shot down, but it just appears that way to me. Love how he bursts thru small openings. That can make a shitty O line look ok. An ok O line look good, and an above-average O Line look fantastic. Hope we keep growing what we saw, and I hope we realize the scouting that will be done on us from this point on. Creativity in play-calling is going to start to get more important every week. Starting now. Cook is so fun to watch. Very smooth and explosive. (seems like a contradictory statement, but he is smooth and fast! ) I told my buddy here to draft Cook in FF; that he'd be monster this year. First time in 17 years I don't have a FF team, kinda nice to turn off the games after the Vikes played. Cook reminds me a bit of Robert Smith. He could hit the hole and be through it with the best of them (pls Cook & AP among the top Vikes I've seen speed through the hole). Smith was also deceptively fast, so smooth, you didn't realize the chunks of yards he was eating up. Loved the debate on who would be faster Smith or Moss. Cook is fast, but not Moss/Smith fast. However, Cook runs with more power and is harder to tackle. Robert Smith so fast and seldom gets recognition for it. As I said before I have seen Randy Moss get caught from behind. Have never seen Robert Smith get caught from behind. Not saying I'm just saying. I think you're mistaken about Smith not getting recognition for being fast. My recollection was that it was often mentioned that he ran the 100M in college, and I would imagine that OSU is reasonably competitive nationally. Correct. Speed was always the #1 (positive) attribute accredited to Smith. Hell, after rushing for 1100 yards and 18 TDs as a freshman in college, he didn't even play football as a sophomore to focus on running track.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 10:08:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f**** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f**** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47. The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball.

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 10:11:28 AM)
Ramblings... I like some of the optimism here, but..... I am not ready to say GB is terrible this year, I do agree that Trustinksky is terrible, not "Suck beyond all suck" bad, but bad. I cant take much information from this first game, it was one of those that just snowballed on the falcons, we arent that good and they arent that bad, IMO didnt like the PI challenge, waste (did not like the PI call, but NO WAY that is overturned), plus there was another penalty that would have been enforced would have liked Cook pulled sooner, i wonder if the few that think he is pedestrian are still sticking with that opinion. thought a couple more pass reps would have been OK in the second half, but not complaining/second guessing i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him getting pretty concerned on Elf Rudy could have/should have been let go....we still tend to hang on to vets one year too long, ie greenway, sendejo, Rudy....IMO

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 10:31:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f**** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f**** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47. The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball. pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 10:51:00 AM)
FWIW, PFF graded Bradbury poorly, at 35.1. No where to go but up. The rest of the O-line: Reiff at 63.7, Elflein at 58.1, Kline at 62.3, and O'Neill at 65.6.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 10:52:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f**** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f**** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47. The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball. pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS. One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that.

mikegreitzer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:16:11 AM)
Agreed. From the perspective of big numbers, nothing has been achieved in the NFL but big contracts. For Kirk Cousins, the same. He needs to be a player who plays a part on this team, not a passer/leader who takes them to "another level". https://vikings61.com/kirk-cousins-will-become-champion-by-role-not-by-numbers/

kevinemmer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:18:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... I like some of the optimism here, but..... I am not ready to say GB is terrible this year, I do agree that Trustinksky is terrible, not "Suck beyond all suck" bad, but bad. I cant take much information from this first game, it was one of those that just snowballed on the falcons, we arent that good and they arent that bad, IMO didnt like the PI challenge, waste (did not like the PI call, but NO WAY that is overturned), plus there was another penalty that would have been enforced would have liked Cook pulled sooner, i wonder if the few that think he is pedestrian are still sticking with that opinion. thought a couple more pass reps would have been OK in the second half, but not complaining/second guessing i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him getting pretty concerned on Elf Rudy could have/should have been let go....we still tend to hang on to vets one year too long, ie greenway, sendejo, Rudy....IMO Good stuff Doc, I pretty much agree on all. Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up. The snowball win concerns me; not too many games you can expect that to occur (esp early in game). Our running attack late to "seal" games reminds me of Chili trying to run against 8-10 in the box (Dumbo Package). If you don't make them pay here and there with play action you are doomed to 3-and-outs, a gassed Defense late in games and hanging on by a thread or a loss. The "Turtle Prevent D" doesn't help our cause late either, and combined with "run at all costs Offense" when we are up late is a recipe for disaster. It doesn't seem like Zimmer has learned from past mistakes in this regard. I hope he does, we shall see.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:22:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f**** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47. The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball. pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.** One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that. You should and it's nothing at all like being enthralled with AD's rushing titles. I am talking about TEAM performance, not individual. The fact is that Atlanta was 29th in the NFL against the run. Our strategy once we got ahead was to run and chew the clock. The strategy worked because of the effectiveness of the defense. Not because of the effectiveness of the running game.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:23:02 AM)
quote: The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. Save for TE yardage, right? Cause even though we won, Rudolph has to go. Hope he's there for the parade...

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:23:28 AM)
Expect #Vikings CB Mackensie Alexander to miss about 4 weeks with dislocated elbow. Big blow to the Vikings secondary with Hughes and Hill both out. (Vikeologist on Twitter)

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:27:31 AM)
Top Graded #Vikings on offense yesterday via @PFF - Adam Thielen 85.0 - CJ Ham 78.4 - Chad Beebe 73.2 Lowest Graded #Vikings on offense yesterday - Garrett Bradbury 35.1 - Ameer Abdullah 48.5 - Pat Elflein 58.1 (Matt Anderson on Twitter)

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:37:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him Good stuff Doc, I pretty much agree on all. Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up. I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7?

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:43:52 AM)
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/10/mackensie-alexander-doesnt-need-elbow-surgery/

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:44:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f**** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f**** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47. The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball. pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS. One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that. goal is to win the Super Bowl, i dont give two flippety doos about any regular season game using a blow out game (winning or losing) to get some experience on your newly built oline would make some sense, imo. even if they were using Mannion, some passing reps for the oline would be useful ymmv

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:45:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him Good stuff Doc, I pretty much agree on all. Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up. I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7? i didnt have him in the first round i might have to look, maybe 4th or 5th i think i started asking for Kearse in the 6th or 7th

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:47:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him Good stuff Doc, I pretty much agree on all. Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up. I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7? i didnt have him in the first round i might have to look, maybe 4th or 5th i think i started asking for Kearse in the 6th or 7th Thanks

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:48:05 AM)
Center Brett Jones has gone to the #Vikings facility expecting to re-sign with the team after being released last Tuesday. I have not heard what the Vikings will do to create a roster spot. (Chris Tomasson on Twitter)

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:55:16 AM)
I am surprised wtih the Alexander injury, that bettors are favoring Minnesota this week. The spread started with the Pukers as a 3 point favorite, most places that has stayed the same, some have changed to 2 1/2. And most bettors are betting the under, expecting the Vikes to win in a low scoring game.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 11:57:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/10/mackensie-alexander-doesnt-need-elbow-surgery/ He should ice it this week and get back in the game if that's the case. I mean it's no longer dislocated, right? [:'(]

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 12:04:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him Good stuff Doc, I pretty much agree on all. Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up. I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7? i didnt have him in the first round i might have to look, maybe 4th or 5th i think i started asking for Kearse in the 6th or 7th Thanks i guess they pulled the older draft threads, so i cant go look those threads were pretty fun to go back and look at several years later

Ragnarök -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 12:04:50 PM)
PFT Power Ranking 7. Saints (1-0; No. 8): It’s been a long time since they’ve been 1-0. 8. Vikings (1-0; No. 11): The Vikings finally figured out how to best use Kirk Cousins... As little as possible. 9. Packers (1-0; No. 16): The “audible thing” provided good cover for the fact that the defense appears to be significantly improved.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 12:05:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Pager Couple of thoughts on the other posts. We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f**** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling. Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center. I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47. The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball. pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.** One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that. You should and it's nothing at all like being enthralled with AD's rushing titles. I am talking about TEAM performance, not individual. The fact is that Atlanta was 29th in the NFL against the run. Our strategy once we got ahead was to run and chew the clock. The strategy worked because of the effectiveness of the defense. Not because of the effectiveness of the running game. The Vikes averaged 4.5 yards per carry. Pulling out the five best carries might help an argument and that's about it. As has been posted by others a few times since the game the Vikes could have run play-action pass to great success any time they wanted but they chose not to - because they didn't need to. I also posted this morning that I really REALLY hope we stuck to the run because we finally got smart and didn't just get lucky and stumble across a winner by chance. 4.5 yards per carry against a defense that knows we're running is complete domination. The Vikes won that game from start to finish with a sound strategy and therefore I don't give two flipety doos. In fact, now I don't even give one.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/10/2019 12:07:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. Save for TE yardage, right? Cause even though we won, Rudolph has to go. Hope he's there for the parade... The yardage that has concerned me in the past and that I've always brought up is his yards-per-catch. Yards-per-catch is a good indicator of a receivers speed and ability to avoid tackles. Rudy is terrible at that because he has the speed of a glacier and falls down at the first hint of a touch.

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