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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I already knew this WR class was filled with depth, but after watching Senior Bowl practice today, I'm even more impressed.

Van Jefferson, K.J. Hill, Michael Pittman Jr., Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay are just a few names gaining attention. It's a good year to pick a WR!


(Just think about all of the WRs that aren't at the Senior Bowl, too. If you're a team, take your pick. You can choose between big-bodied possession, shifty slot and dynamic vertical threats.

(Daniel House on Twitter)

I want a big-bodied possession, shifty slot and dynamic vertical threat guy.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

IMHO in the era of Fantasy Football everyone is an armchair GM enamored by stats and flashy numbers, all to quickly forgetting about how plug and play equates when considered against what schemes the coordinators run and how that player fits both in play potential and cap issues.

Secondly and most overlooked is the issue of team chemistry... Players rise and fall in value to their team by what attitude they bring and how it equates to raising the level of play for all around them.

For that alone I would be willing to move on from Diggs and his pouting at times... get some value from him in trade potential while his numbers are good, Even with our admitted lack of WR skillset at the moment I would love to plug in a cheaper vet and evalute further some youth skillsets as well as lean heavier on our rookie TE... Use the cap for an upgrade at OL and run even more if Zimm wants... Hell run like SF did in the playoffs if you want with a stud or two on OL...

Have no idea where it would get us cap wise to move on from Diggs, as well as consider Rudy and even oft injured Cook, use the cap space for more glaring needs... Mattison, Boone, Ham and even Abdullah , if need be there are some good vet options at RB depth as well, just like SF did with semi no names at RB, its what Kubiaks system does with running backs (just as SF)

Let the young hungry skill set players take a step, Irv Smith, Alexander Mattison and Bisi / Dillon Mitchell could be huge is given a chance and opens up so much ability to re up some quality OL prospects.

Hell if available consider bringing back Jet if cut by SF and how about swapping Keenum for Mannion to back up Kirk...(oh the fun that would be)

The one thing you don't do---bring back an rb that has been hurt almost every year of their existence; Asiata was more valuable as he could play each week. Stud RBs & WR are found after the 3rd round in the draft every year. Cook is hurt a lot; not going to get much back even if he is a top 3-5 rb in the league.

Lots of talent on this team that barely played: Irv, Boone, Collins, Holmes, Hercules, Meadors, Samia, Dozier, Odin, Watts, Udoh, Hollins, Mattison, and Boyd.

Hollins has passed Mitchell.

You know this is lots of talent... how?

A lot of them played against the Bears 1st stringers....Didn't miss a beat with Holmes, Watts, Udoh, and Hollins getting PT. Hercules, Dozier, Oden, and Irv have already been mixed into games and PT prior to game 17.

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

Gary Kubiak names as OC. Works for me.

"The recurring theme in Kubiak’s career has been his ability to manufacture top 10 offensives with decent, but not great quarterbacks: Matt Schaub in Houston, Joe Flacco in Baltimore, the Remains of Peyton Manning in Denver."

"All tolled, Kubiak has had a top ten (or better) offensive in points and/or yards in 16 of his 22 years as either offensive coordinator or head coach."

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I already knew this WR class was filled with depth, but after watching Senior Bowl practice today, I'm even more impressed.

Van Jefferson, K.J. Hill, Michael Pittman Jr., Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay are just a few names gaining attention. It's a good year to pick a WR!


(Just think about all of the WRs that aren't at the Senior Bowl, too. If you're a team, take your pick. You can choose between big-bodied possession, shifty slot and dynamic vertical threats.

(Daniel House on Twitter)

I want a big-bodied possession, shifty slot and dynamic vertical threat guy.

Who catches the ball when thrown to. When I see a deep draft in an area of need then I think an opportunity to do well in the middle to late rounds.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

IMHO in the era of Fantasy Football everyone is an armchair GM enamored by stats and flashy numbers, all to quickly forgetting about how plug and play equates when considered against what schemes the coordinators run and how that player fits both in play potential and cap issues.

Secondly and most overlooked is the issue of team chemistry... Players rise and fall in value to their team by what attitude they bring and how it equates to raising the level of play for all around them.

For that alone I would be willing to move on from Diggs and his pouting at times... get some value from him in trade potential while his numbers are good, Even with our admitted lack of WR skillset at the moment I would love to plug in a cheaper vet and evalute further some youth skillsets as well as lean heavier on our rookie TE... Use the cap for an upgrade at OL and run even more if Zimm wants... Hell run like SF did in the playoffs if you want with a stud or two on OL...

Have no idea where it would get us cap wise to move on from Diggs, as well as consider Rudy and even oft injured Cook, use the cap space for more glaring needs... Mattison, Boone, Ham and even Abdullah , if need be there are some good vet options at RB depth as well, just like SF did with semi no names at RB, its what Kubiaks system does with running backs (just as SF)

Let the young hungry skill set players take a step, Irv Smith, Alexander Mattison and Bisi / Dillon Mitchell could be huge is given a chance and opens up so much ability to re up some quality OL prospects.

Hell if available consider bringing back Jet if cut by SF and how about swapping Keenum for Mannion to back up Kirk...(oh the fun that would be)

The one thing you don't do---bring back an rb that has been hurt almost every year of their existence; Asiata was more valuable as he could play each week. Stud RBs & WR are found after the 3rd round in the draft every year. Cook is hurt a lot; not going to get much back even if he is a top 3-5 rb in the league.

Lots of talent on this team that barely played: Irv, Boone, Collins, Holmes, Hercules, Meadors, Samia, Dozier, Odin, Watts, Udoh, Hollins, Mattison, and Boyd.

Hollins has passed Mitchell.

You know this is lots of talent... how?

A lot of them played against the Bears 1st stringers....Didn't miss a beat with Holmes, Watts, Udoh, and Hollins getting PT. Hercules, Dozier, Oden, and Irv have already been mixed into games and PT prior to game 17.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Wouldn't have been a real stretch to land Metcalf or Brown, on a team lacking WR depth. Football philosophy come into play here?

Meanwhile, Bruce is thinking we should draft another RB in the 2nd round.

How many RB's do we need? That's rhetorical. We need them all, because we are run first.

Cook and Diggs are the best offensive players on our roster. Any plan that includes getting rid of them is foolish, unless we are doing a complete rebuild.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Trying real hard to make sense of what we are doing.

As long as most of us have been in here, our OL has sucked. We want to Run, yet we were ultra-aggressive going after a QB, and we give him Treadwell?

Run first, but throw big iron at a QB, and give him two WR's? Tannehill would have made more sense for our philosophy than Cousins.

We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Trying real hard to make sense of what we are doing.

As long as most of us have been in here, our OL has sucked. We want to Run, yet we were ultra-aggressive going after a QB, and we give him Treadwell?

Run first, but throw big iron at a QB, and give him two WR's? Tannehill would have made more sense for our philosophy than Cousins.

We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.

Denny believed in a good Oline and we made the playoffs for a sustained stretch.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Trying real hard to make sense of what we are doing.

As long as most of us have been in here, our OL has sucked. We want to Run, yet we were ultra-aggressive going after a QB, and we give him Treadwell?

Run first, but throw big iron at a QB, and give him two WR's? Tannehill would have made more sense for our philosophy than Cousins.

We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Trying real hard to make sense of what we are doing.

As long as most of us have been in here, our OL has sucked. We want to Run, yet we were ultra-aggressive going after a QB, and we give him Treadwell?
Run first, but throw big iron at a QB, and give him two WR's? Tannehill would have made more sense for our philosophy than Cousins.
We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.

Denny believed in a good Oline and we made the playoffs for a sustained stretch.

And what did it get us vs the last x number of years?

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

2020 for me will just be about accepting things. It reads like such an ego trip to bitch about player movement or coaching schemes. Like even if you are smart enough to see things without the benefit of retrospect , and who really is, it doesn't count for anything.

30 teams had this or that type of QB or offensive philosophy, defensive strategy, weaknesses and strengths in various areas...and they're all sitting home watching the SB this year.

I love this team and the joy it brings me and I'm going to get up for them every year until they win it all. And lmfao...after as well. Reading people say they would walk away afterwards sounds like someone saying they'd cut their dicks off after finally getting their first BJ.

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

2020 for me will just be about accepting things. It reads like such an ego trip to bitch about player movement or coaching schemes. Like even if you are smart enough to see things without the benefit of retrospect , and who really is, it doesn't count for anything.

30 teams had this or that type of QB or offensive philosophy, defensive strategy, weaknesses and strengths in various areas...and they're all sitting home watching the SB this year.

I love this team and the joy it brings me and I'm going to get up for them every year until they win it all. And lmfao...after as well. Reading people say they would walk away afterwards sounds like someone saying they'd cut their dicks off after finally getting their first BJ.

Some of us are walking away from the NFL, not the Vikings


Kirk had to sit and wait for a while on the bench before being told..hey, we won

The dumb rules

The stupid replays

The changing game.


It's more like cutting your dick off because it has cancer

YMMV

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.


We finally have the kicking game ironed out.....for now [sm=comfort.gif]

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.


We finally have the kicking game ironed out.....for now [sm=comfort.gif]

You may be on to why …. this was one of my calmest Viking seasons on record
Constant Kicker Angst is not a fun way to go thru life, kids.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

We're a little disjointed in how we put the pieces together. Almost clueless, I say.


We finally have the kicking game ironed out.....for now [sm=comfort.gif]

You may be on to why …. this was one of my calmest Viking seasons on record
Constant Kicker Angst is not a fun way to go thru life, kids.

Neither the K or P are signed for next season. Just sayin...