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Well, I guess that answers that.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/25/report-trent-williams-declined-trade-to-minnesota/

I don't know if I believe the report. Williams desperately wants out of Washington. Would he try to block his best chance. All reports are he has a good relationship with Cousins.

Maybe he looked at our cap situation and realized he couldn't get as much as if he went somewhere else.

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For those who wish we had traded up I think we are very lucky we didn't.
Vikings tried to move up for Jefferson. It would have probably cost us pick 58 or 89 to do it and we got him anyway.
Next player we most likely would have traded up for Ezra Cleveland Got him anyway.
Next Player Maybe Jordan Elliott would have cost us 89 Dantzler and 105 which we ended up trading down for 4 picks

Would any of those have been a good move?

The second two are red herrings. No evidence suggests we tried to trade up for Ezra. The player we tried to trade up for was Gillimore. And no one will be able to answer whether it was a good move for 2-3 years. But right now, I would rather have Gillimore and a trade up for Dantzler and "only" have 9 draft picks on day 3.

I'm totally guessing, but Cleveland IMO is the most likely player we would have targeted in a trade up. Gallimore and Elliott were the two best DTs according to most. We almost certainly could have traded up for Elliott with 105. Gallimore may have cost more. We most likely did not have the draft capital to trade up for either and still get Dantzler.

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For those who wish we had traded up I think we are very lucky we didn't.
Vikings tried to move up for Jefferson. It would have probably cost us pick 58 or 89 to do it and we got him anyway.
Next player we most likely would have traded up for Ezra Cleveland Got him anyway.
Next Player Maybe Jordan Elliott would have cost us 89 Dantzler and 105 which we ended up trading down for 4 picks

Would any of those have been a good move?

The second two are red herrings. No evidence suggests we tried to trade up for Ezra. The player we tried to trade up for was Gillimore. And no one will be able to answer whether it was a good move for 2-3 years. But right now, I would rather have Gillimore and a trade up for Dantzler and "only" have 9 draft picks on day 3.

I'm totally guessing, but Cleveland IMO is the most likely player we would have targeted in a trade up. Gallimore and Elliott were the two best DTs according to most. We almost certainly could have traded up for Elliott with 105. Gallimore may have cost more. We most likely did not have the draft capital to trade up for either and still get Dantzler.

You are totally guessing. And just because someone was "most likely" in your hypothetical doesn't mean it's even in the same universe as reality.

It'd be pretty easy to figure out the cost. We'd have to move up to 81 for Gillimore. I'm guessing the 3rd rounder plus the first 4th rounder will be about the same amount of points. Leaving the second 3rd rounder. I'll play my own hypothetical. We don't have to trade up for Dantlzer very much. It only took a 7th rounder, because in my hypothetical he falls further than we expected like Jefferson. And we have plenty of picks left over. (1-4th, 2-5ths, 2-6ths, and 2-7ths). These hypotheticals are fun [8|]

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For those who wish we had traded up I think we are very lucky we didn't.
Vikings tried to move up for Jefferson. It would have probably cost us pick 58 or 89 to do it and we got him anyway.
Next player we most likely would have traded up for Ezra Cleveland Got him anyway.
Next Player Maybe Jordan Elliott would have cost us 89 Dantzler and 105 which we ended up trading down for 4 picks

Would any of those have been a good move?

The second two are red herrings. No evidence suggests we tried to trade up for Ezra. The player we tried to trade up for was Gillimore. And no one will be able to answer whether it was a good move for 2-3 years. But right now, I would rather have Gillimore and a trade up for Dantzler and "only" have 9 draft picks on day 3.

I'm totally guessing, but Cleveland IMO is the most likely player we would have targeted in a trade up. Gallimore and Elliott were the two best DTs according to most. We almost certainly could have traded up for Elliott with 105. Gallimore may have cost more. We most likely did not have the draft capital to trade up for either and still get Dantzler.

You are totally guessing. And just because someone was "most likely" in your hypothetical doesn't mean it's even in the same universe as reality.

It'd be pretty easy to figure out the cost. We'd have to move up to 81 for Gillimore. I'm guessing the 3rd rounder plus the first 4th rounder will be about the same amount of points. Leaving the second 3rd rounder. I'll play my own hypothetical. We don't have to trade up for Dantlzer very much. It only took a 7th rounder, because in my hypothetical he falls further than we expected like Jefferson. And we have plenty of picks left over. (1-4th, 2-5ths, 2-6ths, and 2-7ths). These hypotheticals are fun [8|]

Reality to trade up to 81 or higher because we didn't know what pick was going to be used on Gallimore would have cost 89-105-and 117. Then of course Dantzler would have just fell to us at 132 because we were stupid to take him at 89 (sarcasm). Whenever we question the wisdom of trading up or back of course we are working in hypotheticals. Why did you feel the need to say I was totally guessing when I already said it? It's one thing to debate. That's cool. It's another to debate with a very snide attitude.

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Difference between the 81st and 89th is 40 points. The 117th is 60 points. That fourth would have taken us to the 77th pick.

A 7th would have taken us from 105 to 101. Dantzler would have had to fall 12 spots.

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For those who wish we had traded up I think we are very lucky we didn't.
Vikings tried to move up for Jefferson. It would have probably cost us pick 58 or 89 to do it and we got him anyway.
Next player we most likely would have traded up for Ezra Cleveland Got him anyway.
Next Player Maybe Jordan Elliott would have cost us 89 Dantzler and 105 which we ended up trading down for 4 picks

Would any of those have been a good move?

The second two are red herrings. No evidence suggests we tried to trade up for Ezra. The player we tried to trade up for was Gillimore. And no one will be able to answer whether it was a good move for 2-3 years. But right now, I would rather have Gillimore and a trade up for Dantzler and "only" have 9 draft picks on day 3.

I'm totally guessing, but Cleveland IMO is the most likely player we would have targeted in a trade up. Gallimore and Elliott were the two best DTs according to most. We almost certainly could have traded up for Elliott with 105. Gallimore may have cost more. We most likely did not have the draft capital to trade up for either and still get Dantzler.

You are totally guessing. And just because someone was "most likely" in your hypothetical doesn't mean it's even in the same universe as reality.

It'd be pretty easy to figure out the cost. We'd have to move up to 81 for Gillimore. I'm guessing the 3rd rounder plus the first 4th rounder will be about the same amount of points. Leaving the second 3rd rounder. I'll play my own hypothetical. We don't have to trade up for Dantlzer very much. It only took a 7th rounder, because in my hypothetical he falls further than we expected like Jefferson. And we have plenty of picks left over. (1-4th, 2-5ths, 2-6ths, and 2-7ths). These hypotheticals are fun [8|]

Reality to trade up to 81 or higher because we didn't know what pick was going to be used on Gallimore would have cost 89-105-and 117. Then of course Dantzler would have just fell to us at 132 because we were stupid to take him at 89 (sarcasm). Whenever we question the wisdom of trading up or back of course we are working in hypotheticals. Why did you feel the need to say I was totally guessing when I already said it? It's one thing to debate. That's cool. It's another to debate with a very snide attitude.

Everyone has an opinion - I'm good with that - you like having 13 picks on day 3. Trying to support it with this made up scenario on who you believe might have been our next most likely trade up target; I just don't get it (it doesn't support it at all). Then doubling down on it... I'm not going down this rabbit hole.

It would take the 89th 105th and the 117th to move up 8 spots? They would have to give something back to balance it out. I'm too tired to look it up.

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Is it possible we could own the entire 7th round if we traded down all of the ammassed draft capital? work out the numbers...

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Players to be considered early today:
James Lynch DL
Kevin Dotson G
Tyler Johnson WR
Amik Robertson CB (slot)
Ben Bartch OL
JR Reed S
Leki Fotu DT

(Warren Ludford on Twitter)

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/25/report-trent-williams-declined-trade-to-minnesota/

So much for talk of him wanting to play with Cousins and Vikes having legitimate feelers out...

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I'm very intrigued by Kenny Robinson the Safety from the XFL. I hope he's on our radar for today.

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Dantzler is a tremendous value.
Only gave up 1 TD in last 2yrs... in the SEC! And shut down Ja’Marr Chase.
#vikings

(Ben Leber on Twitter)

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/25/report-trent-williams-declined-trade-to-minnesota/

So much for talk of him wanting to play with Cousins and Vikes having legitimate feelers out...

He probably looked at Tunsil's new contract and our cap situation.